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Would you encourage your teenage daughter to use a vibrator?

  • 30-04-2018 4:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭


    Saw this segment on This Morning last week and found it interesting. I don't have a teenage daughter but although I wouldn't give her a sex toy and say 'Off you go then princess', I would certainly encourage the mother to sit her down and explain to her that it's probably not the worst thing in the world if she wanted to go and explore her body intimately for the first time. I'm behind this for one reason: pleasure shouldn't be denied.

    How many women of previous generations have gone their whole lives without ever experiencing a real orgasm? Many women can't climax from penetration alone, so a more surgical approach needs to be adopted, with extra attention dedicated to the clitoris, and personally I can't envisage a lot of men back in the day going to those lengths to please their ladies, nor can I envisage those women tending to their own needs, not while the church was still influential and a flick of the bean meant you were destined to spend the afterlife in hell.

    It's sad really, and I don't see a major problem with ushering your teenage daughter into that world when they're old enough. Question is, when are they old enough? I wouldn't broach the subject before they're 15. I think 13 and 14 is a bit too young and it can be a confusing enough period as it is, but 15 seems okay.

    I'm interested in other pros and cons here, but overall I feel as if pleasure - especially female pleasure, which can be a lot more intense and magical than what we experience - is something that be encouraged, not denied.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Never has a user name been more appropriate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭verycool


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    ...personally I can't envisage a lot of men back in the day going to those lengths...

    hehehehehehe...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,657 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Seriously?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 27 Enochwasright


    Society really is going to ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Even for AH , this is one doozy of a thread opening post.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    You watch This Morning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I feel like this entire question is some kind of test that will leave responders on a list somewhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    Even for AH , this is one doozy of a thread opening post.

    I think it's an interesting subject personally but I get the 'Jesus what is this?' vibe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    You need to do something better than watch morning tv.
    And, your question, ugh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    However my teenage daughter gets her jollies, I don't want to know.

    And she certainly doesn't want to tell me.

    Too much information.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    "When I asked for a rabbit for Easter, this is not exactly what I meant..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    Good idea.
    Might get them away from their phones and wasting their lives on social media apps!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Yes, but not big black ones


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    Good idea.
    Might get them away from their phones and wasting their lives on social media apps!?

    Or else use their phones for something else at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Kotek Besar


    I'm not even going to post a reply to this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    "Here ye go, mash this yoke against yer vagoo"

    I'd be in favour, as masturbation is a generally healthy thing, but christ-on-a-bike, how on earth do you bring the topic up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    That's just fúcking weird.

    I have 4 daughters, 1 adult, 3 kids - once old enough, they can do whatever they want, with whoever they want as, far as I'm concerned. They can flick their beans till they fall off for all I care, but there is no need for me to know any of the details (or buy any of the equipment!)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    "Here ye go, mash this yoke against yer vagoo"

    I'd be in favour, as masturbation is a generally healthy thing, but christ-on-a-bike, how on earth do you bring the topic up?

    You don't; you ask the mother.

    I should point out that this thread wouldn't be as controversial if it was about giving a 15-year-old boy a copy of Penthouse. Either way you're encouraging masturbation but it's a lot more taboo when it's a female and that's precisely the problem. The subject is far weirder than it actually is in my view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Anyone else going to the pub? No? Ho-kay then. <SLAM>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    dinorebel wrote: »
    Never has a user name been more appropriate.

    69 or hammerher


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    Many women can't climax from penetration alone, so a more surgical approach needs to be adopted, with extra attention dedicated to the clitoris ........


    And where can you get this surgery?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    You don't; you ask the mother.
    .

    Sorry love, you couldn't just show little Mary how to use the turbo intruder 3000 I bought her could you, I'd do it myself but the pool are playing in a half an hour.
    Put down those AA batteries would you ffs - it's the diesel model she wanted.

    Eh no - I won't be going there:D


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    Yes, but not big black ones

    Are you talking about the teenagers or vibrators?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    Kivaro wrote: »
    And where can you get this surgery?

    I was referring to the other type of 'surgical', something done with precision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,937 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    Would you encourage your teenage daughter to use a vibrator?

    No?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    Sorry love, you couldn't just show little Mary how to use the turbo intruder 3000 I bought her could you, I'd do it myself but the pool are playing in a half an hour.
    Put down those AA batteries would you ffs - it's the diesel model she wanted.

    Eh no - I won't be going there:D

    Or just let her revel in the three-pronged attack of Mane, Salah and Firmino and the same effect would be achieved :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    In principle sure, no reason not to, but personally I'd leave it to her mum. Reckon a girl would find it pretty awkward having her dad talk to her about that stuff. I'd have no problem introducing my son to sex toys, and I'd have no problem introducing my daughter to them either but I reckon she might have a problem with it, as we're probably still several generations away from the total normalisation and de-stigmatising of sex.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,937 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    OP, i'd imagine if the man of the house went to his daughter with a recommendation that:

    a. she use a vibrator
    and
    b. suggest the best type

    that she would be quite likely to contact the authorities.

    Just my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    It's actually a thing in Rwanda for mothers to teach their daughters how to squirt:eek:

    Now, I'm in the very fortunate position of having experienced a couple of squirters in my time, (I can't recommend it highly enough;)) - but.....the thoughts that their mothers might have taught them to do it - eughh, no that just ruins it!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    OP, i'd imagine if the man of the house went to his daughter with a recommendation that:

    a. she use a vibrator
    and
    b. suggest the best type

    that she would be quite likely to contact the authorities.

    Just my opinion.

    I'm not lobbying for this. I should've said so in the thread title. I was going to say 'Would you use your wife or partner as a go-between to broach the subject of masturbation to your teenage daughter', but someone would've used a 'go-between' joke and the thread would've been sullied.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭GhostyMcGhost


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    'Jesus what is this?' vibe.

    Heh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Black and Decker drill was never intended for that use....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    I've seen videos where mothers show their daughters how to use vibrators.

    So it is definitely going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    As a microphone miming to Madonna in the mirror?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    I should point out that this thread wouldn't be as controversial if it was about giving a 15-year-old boy a copy of Penthouse.

    Eh... yeah it would. Who the fcuk gets a porn mag for their son to have a w*nk to? Would that not be mortifying for all involved? Can they not source their own material like the generations before them had to and be relatively discreet about it? Same for the girls, btw.

    I'm sure everyone can figure out their own bits without the need for parental involvement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    It only be'CUMS' an issue:- if she posts it on WatsSnapChat!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I wouldn't be buying porn or sex toys for either of my kids because boundaries.

    If I found either in their room I wouldn't have a problem with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,944 ✭✭✭Bigus


    A bit like the unlucky fella who bought the Wife a vibrator for Christmas,,,,,, she broke all her teeth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    I've been told several times how "sexually repressive" Irish society is. Yet all the media can talk about lately is sex - especially for women. Men on the other hand are shamed for even noticing an attractive girl. Was there any mention of buying a blow up doll or fleshlight for teenage sons? I'll bet there wasn't.

    It doesn't add up.

    Talk about having embarrassing parents. This is off the scale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    Which end?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I mean absolutely not. There are some things in life you just need to explore and figure out by yourself. Scarlet for my life if my mam handed me a rampant rabbit on my 18th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    It's actually a thing in Rwanda for mothers to teach their daughters how to squirt:eek:

    Now, I'm in the very fortunate position of having experienced a couple of squirters in my time, (I can't recommend it highly enough;)) - but.....the thoughts that their mothers might have taught them to do it - eughh, no that just ruins it!

    It's mostly just them blastin' piss......At least that's what they do in the pornos.
    (I love and hate google)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Eh... yeah it would. Who the fcuk gets a porn mag for their son to have a w*nk to? Would that not be mortifying for all involved? Can they not source their own material like the generations before them had to and be relatively discreet about it? Same for the girls, btw.

    I'm sure everyone can figure out their own bits without the need for parental involvement.

    Are porn mags still a thing?

    If the lad is old enough to be wankin' he old enough to have a phone and internet access.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    CruelCoin wrote: »
    It's mostly just them blastin' piss......At least that's what they do in the pornos.
    (I love and hate google)

    On the internet largely yes - but there are reals ones out there - and they are amazing.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    Eh... yeah it would. Who the fcuk gets a porn mag for their son to have a w*nk to? Would that not be mortifying for all involved? Can they not source their own material like the generations before them had to and be relatively discreet about it? Same for the girls, btw.

    I'm sure everyone can figure out their own bits without the need for parental involvement.

    Sourcing like previous generations like stealing the mags of their parents or relatives?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    LirW wrote: »
    Sourcing like previous generations like stealing the mags of their parents or relatives?

    That would be quite the achievement, who still has pornmags?
    And national geographic's not what it used to be either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    It would give young girls unreasonable expectations of pleasure from a penis shaped object.

    Better to learn naturally the inevitable disappointment from a real penis shaped object, and allow an informed decision later on to compensate for said disappointment.

    Meanwhile, didlo/vibrator engineers and designers cant quite get the balance right between texture, movement and grass cutting ability. When they do, we're in trouble.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    I mean absolutely not. There are some things in life you just need to explore and figure out by yourself. Scarlet for my life if my mam handed me a rampant rabbit on my 18th

    He said teenager, so could be younger.

    I have the horrible image of a thirteenth birthday party spoiled by the opening of a present.

    “Oh it’s a bunny... WHAT!”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    wexie wrote: »
    That would be quite the achievement, who still has pornmags?
    And national geographic's not what it used to be either.

    Just thinking how uncomfortable it must be cleaning up a teens phone after some porn session with all the dodgy ads and viruses going on online. Like we all know why your phone barely works anymore, boy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    LirW wrote: »
    Just thinking how uncomfortable it must be cleaning up a teens phone after some porn session with all the dodgy ads and viruses going on online. Like we all know why your phone barely works anymore, boy.

    nowhere near as uncomfortable as the 'other kind of cleaning' :D


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