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DCM 2018 - Mentored Novice Thread
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Thanks for advise Bucketybuck. Yes this is my first marathon. Only started running in Feb/March this year which is why some of questions probably seem a bit off the wall at timesbucketybuck wrote: »Is this your first marathon? Then I would say go with the conservative 3.50.
You say you felt great doing the 15 mile race but the marathon is still 11 miles more than that, do you really want to go out too fast and hit that fabled wall? You can be conservative and still get a good sub 4 hour time, why risk a blow up by pushing for more than that?
You could go out at 3.50 pace and then if you still feel good after 30kms push on from there, and Dublin is a course that rewards a negative split anyway.
This is my own thinking anyway, I think I could push for similar times to you but caution is telling me that it is better to get a good sub 4 time than to blow up at 22 miles and walk home, so I'm going to aim for something between 3.50 and 4 hrs.
Will rein in the overly ambitious thoughts and go semi conservative for the start and see how it goes as you say! Thanks again.Right that's two curfew breakers. Your posting rights are revoked.
Apologies on the curfew breaking. I actually started the post before 10pm but by the time I figured out how to attach screengrabs was after ten. I agree sleep is key to recovery!Hobbyjogger wrote: »I’m considering between the same times as you (well, not quite 3.35!) but was unsure if I want to risk going for an in-between time without a pacer so I’m thinking of starting with the 3.50 and if I feel good around the middle, push on for a negative split. One of the other men on here (sorry I don’t know your boards name! Maybe it’s bucketybuck?) might join me so we can help keep a steady paceI'm going out with the 3.50 pacers too, but won't be attempting a kick on until the top of Roebuck Road :P But see you for the first half
Hedgehoggy wrote: »Thinking of a similar strategy - heading out with 3.50 pacers and hopefully having something in the tank for pushing on later in the race!!
Sounds like a right crowd going for 3.50 pacer to start and see how it goes! Seems like a rational plan!0 -
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Hi all,
Any pointers regarding taking in the marathon route when out running? I'm planning on covering the majority of the race route over my next two LSR's. Just wondering do people generally try to become familiar with it or is it a case of preferring not to know and just take it as it comes?
Also, if there's any recommendations for relatively cheap running watches I'd appreciate it, just something that allows me see my per KM paces. My Garmin got robbed last week. Feels very strange running without the watch now after all the training so far. (PM if you'd prefer not to be recommending individual brands)
Hi pilot1087,
I personally don't run a lot of the course prior to the marathon as I find the stop start with traffic and dodging pedestrians too frustrating, plus there are a lot of uneven surfaces on concrete etc. I think that running the bit from the start of the Phoenix park up to Myo's pub, Tower road,back into the park,down the Upper Glen Road and Chapelizod (first decent hill) and back into Kilmainham a really good insight to the first half of the DCM, as this is the hardest part (IMO) anyway. Then finish off the LSR in the park if you want to add a few more miles to it. Less frustrating to run but still good homework too.
If you want a low cost Garmin, then maybe have a look at Amazon or Ebay, there are a few new ones up there for around €80-90 that should tide you over nicely. I have an older Garmin Forerunner 210 for at least 5 years now and it is fine (not waterproof though despite it saying so, the lad in the shop that I bought it from advised me not to use it for swimming). Never had a problem buying stuff from either site....best of luck
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Having a sports massage is something that's been on my mind for a while but I can't say that I've been experiencing any niggles so didn't really think it would be necessary.
Would you recommend one regardless?
It's not necessary but it'd be no harm for anyone doing the mileage you guys have been doing, you may not have niggles but i bet they find some tight spots all the samekittyclaws wrote: »If you’re getting one go to a physio - You don’t know what’s sore until your physio gets a hold of you! I’m booked in for Tuesday evening. My calves feel fine now but if there’s any knots forming she’ll find them and fix them
I go to a Physio for physio but i also go to for occasional sports massages and actually i find the sports massage better for just a good rub down when i don't have specific injury worries. It's really about the individual rather than their qualification i think - you can have good & bad. Generally though you'll get more time for less money with a Physical Therapist or just a deep tissue sports masseur than you will with a Physio.I'm looking for advice for a kerry culchie coming to the big schmoke
My knowledge of Dublin is very limited. I know how to get to Croke Park but that's about it...... And maybe not so much in recent years.
Can any of ye advise where friends can go along the route maybe around half ways and then get back into the city for the finish and how to get from A to B to A?
Tks a mil!
I don't know Dublin very well either. Last year my hubby, sister in law, my kids, nieces & nephews etc. were all at the statue in the Pheonix Park on Chesterfield Ave, around 5m/8km i believe. This worked really well and i spotted them straight away - i threw them the gloves i'd be wearing until then and got lots of high 5s, it was lovely. Then my hubby brought just two of our kids over to Ballsbridge, he had told me they'd be around 23 miles and sure they were, a bit harder to spot but i saw them, i was passed the high 5 stage by then (i actually burst out crying
). It was so lovely to see them. From there he was able go down to meet me after i collected my bag from the bag drop etc. I also had a friend who told me she'd be around 15m (walkinstown i think?) and i spotted her too. Those 3 milestones really got me through along with the 3 timing gantries en route (10k, half way & 30k), it really helped to break the race down into smaller chunks and to pass some time trying to spot someone in the crowd! Just make sure they tell you which side of the road they're going be standing on if possible 0 -
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Strangely grand!! I almost felt cheated after all the pain and torture I was expecting, but it didn't hurt to be honest. He said my legs are in surprisingly good shape so I feel very lucky! Half afraid I'm jinxing everything by saying that thoughHow did you get on?!
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Most runners go more so for maintenance than the need too. You might have a few nots needed ironing that may become troublesome. If you do decide too then book yourself in 7-10 days beforehand, don't leave too close to the dayAlso a lot of talk of tired legs at the moment - this is totally normal and to be expected at this stage of the process. No harm to make an appointment for a sports massage if you haven't already? Nice treat for yourselves after all the training
Having a sports massage is something that's been on my mind for a while but I can't say that I've been experiencing any niggles so didn't really think it would be necessary.
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Eh somewhere in the back of my mind I have the plan to book one but keep putting it off, very bold of me.
Got any more planned yourself?Strangely grand!! I almost felt cheated after all the pain and torture I was expecting, but it didn't hurt to be honest. He said my legs are in surprisingly good shape so I feel very lucky! Half afraid I'm jinxing everything by saying that though0 -
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