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DCM 2018 - Mentored Novice Thread
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kittyclaws wrote: »I wasn’t going to post but someone might learn from my stupidity
I raced FD10 even tho I had planned on doing it as my LSR. Racing has a bad effect on me, it takes me ages to recover, but I figured what’s 10 miles at this point when I was fine after doing 18 last weekend!
I felt fine after the race, and fine for most of yesterday. I went to the gym on my lunch hour for a weight session, then decided to go for my easy run straight from work as some of the girls were going out then. I only had a salad for lunch, so grabbed a bar from the vending machine and headed out.
After a mile I started to get dizzy. I thought I’d run it off so kept going - another half mile or so in I was shaking and sweating profusely. I had to stop and sit down. In the end I had to get a lift back to my car I was in such a state!
I rang my other half (who is a nutritionist) who said it sounded like my blood sugar was spiking and to get a banana, a chocolate protein milk and a breakfast bar into me to stabilise.
After a while I felt well enough to drive home. I feel ok today but gonna wait to do a test 4 mile run tomorrow to let the glycogen stores go back up.
I’m supposed to be doing my 20 mile run on Thursday, I’ll have to see how tomorrow’s run goes, I got a bit of a scare but looking back it’s my own fault for not refuelling properly after the race.
:eek: but could happen to any of us. At least today's run went well. Still planning on 20 miles tomorrow?0 -
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:eek: but could happen to any of us. At least today's run went well. Still planning on 20 miles tomorrow?
I’m hoping I’ll still be able to do it. I might push it back until Friday, I’ll decide tomorrow. Mentally I’m still a bit freaked out by what happened, but I’m currently working my way thru a bucket of pasta so I’ll be well fueled - at this rate I’ll be rolling the route instead of running it
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Hedgehoggy wrote: »I'm doing this race too and I'm having the same dilemma - Aiming in around 1.45 (really wish there was a 1.45 pacer!).
I'm no expert - but reckon starting with 1.50 pacer might leave you with too much ground to make up - you'd need to start pushing on very early in the race?? My own thoughts are to head out and aim for around 8 minute miles ....
Picked up my race number and t-shirt this evening. The t-shirt is nice!!
I'll try to look out for you at the end. My number's 3590 -
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Has anyone got any recommendations on where to get a customised running vest done up?
I just got one done up on http://soretodaystrongtomorrow.co.uk They have pre-designed ones or for an extra £2 they’ll do a custom one for you.
I love it, I’m gonna wear it on my 20 miles today but I think I found my marathon top 0 -
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Bit of a dilemma for Saturday's half marathon in Ratoath. Aiming for a time of 1:45 but unsure whether to:
- set off with the 1:40 pacer and not worry too much if I'm struggling a little with the pace, but within reach of the group.
- set off with the 1:50 pacer and break free from the group a few miles from the end to make it over the line for what will hopefully be as close to my target time as possible?
- just run the damn thing.
As others have said Pace yourself, the two pace groups are too far either side of where you want to be. Start at 8:05-8:10 min/m and ease yourself into over the first couple of miles, hit your target pace and hold it for the middle miles, and ramp up near the end if you can. AS others have said 1:45 is a nice round number - no challenge on the math front
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As others have said Pace yourself, the two pace groups are too far either side of where you want to be. Start at 8:05-8:10 min/m and ease yourself into over the first couple of miles, hit your target pace and hold it for the middle miles, and ramp up near the end if you can. AS others have said 1:45 is a nice round number - no challenge on the math front
Thanks Ariana. I think I see the pacers as something of a safety blanket and that if I go out on my own, I'll make a holy mess of things.
But you're right, it's a straightforward enough target to manage. 0 -
Thanks Ariana. I think I see the pacers as something of a safety blanket and that if I go out on my own, I'll make a holy mess of things.
But you're right, it's a straightforward enough target to manage.
The pacers are fantastic at DCM but they're not always so dependable. You won't make a mess of it. Good luck!0 -
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Thanks Ariana. I think I see the pacers as something of a safety blanket and that if I go out on my own, I'll make a holy mess of things.
But you're right, it's a straightforward enough target to manage.
The only way you will make a holy mess of it is by going out too fast! Which is why i suggested you start slightly slower than your target, first mile @ 8:10, next couple @ 8:05-8:10. At the 3m marker do a body check, are the legs feeling good, are the lungs feeling good?? Is 1:45 still on? If so then gradually get up to pace, keep it steady, keep the head and you'll do grand
It will give you great confidence for DCM knowing you are capable of pacing yourself if the need arises. For a bit of background, I started behind my chosen pace group last year, in the first mile i lost sight of them and the next pace group passed me as well :eek: I ended up passing the next pace group reasonably soon after (around 3m in) but i didn't catch up with the pace group i had planned on running with until about 21-22 miles. I eventually finished 3 mins ahead of them proving that it wasn't a case that i wasn't able for that pace but running with the pace group just didn't work out on the day! So no harm to be prepared for any eventuality.0 -
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The only way you will make a holy mess of it is by going out too fast! Which is why i suggested you start slightly slower than your target, first mile @ 8:10, next couple @ 8:05-8:10. At the 3m marker do a body check, are the legs feeling good, are the lungs feeling good?? Is 1:45 still on? If so then gradually get up to pace, keep it steady, keep the head and you'll do grand
It will give you great confidence for DCM knowing you are capable of pacing yourself if the need arises. For a bit of background, I started behind my chosen pace group last year, in the first mile i lost sight of them and the next pace group passed me as well :eek: I ended up passing the next pace group reasonably soon after (around 3m in) but i didn't catch up with the pace group i had planned on running with until about 21-22 miles. I eventually finished 3 mins ahead of them proving that it wasn't a case that i wasn't able for that pace but running with the pace group just didn't work out on the day! So no harm to be prepared for any eventuality.
Thanks Ariana,
I know I am capable of it but unfortunately I was born a self-doubter, something that has plagued me and held me back for years. Once I'm in the moment though, it's all good. 0 -
Thanks Ariana,
I know I am capable of it but unfortunately I was born a self-doubter, something that has plagued me and held me back for years. Once I'm in the moment though, it's all good.
You are well able Coogy and look at the improvement in your pacing since you started here. If you are very nervous of shooting off you could start beside the 1:50 guys and stay with them for a few minutes so you don’t shoot off and gradually build up the speed then to the 8:10 or so like Ariana suggests. It will probably feel quite slow at the start anyway so that might keep you in check.0 -
I definitely would not say stupid, this happens as you say when you extend your self training wise without adequate recovery. I have been here and it is horrible. Take some care to ensure you are properly recovered.kittyclaws wrote: »I wasn’t going to post but someone might learn from my stupidity
I raced FD10 even tho I had planned on doing it as my LSR. Racing has a bad effect on me, it takes me ages to recover, but I figured what’s 10 miles at this point when I was fine after doing 18 last weekend!
I felt fine after the race, and fine for most of yesterday. I went to the gym on my lunch hour for a weight session, then decided to go for my easy run straight from work as some of the girls were going out then. I only had a salad for lunch, so grabbed a bar from the vending machine and headed out.
After a mile I started to get dizzy. I thought I’d run it off so kept going - another half mile or so in I was shaking and sweating profusely. I had to stop and sit down. In the end I had to get a lift back to my car I was in such a state!
I rang my other half (who is a nutritionist) who said it sounded like my blood sugar was spiking and to get a banana, a chocolate protein milk and a breakfast bar into me to stabilise.
After a while I felt well enough to drive home. I feel ok today but gonna wait to do a test 4 mile run tomorrow to let the glycogen stores go back up.
I’m supposed to be doing my 20 mile run on Thursday, I’ll have to see how tomorrow’s run goes, I got a bit of a scare but looking back it’s my own fault for not refuelling properly after the race.
Every now and again the training gives little reminders to keep respecting the pace and the distance - I sometimes get shocks and readjust where i am in my head (on both good and bad days), overall though the training is making us stronger and fitter. It tends to happen after sneaky pints and some chocolate (a lot of ) for me, a little reminder take nothing for granted, especially these last few weeks. Push on with the training and enjoy the few weeks after it. 0 -
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