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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Am I wrong on the maths on this, or maybe it's not well written, but are they spending the same amount on Fair City that they do on Miriam for hair and make-up? And that's the entire cast, how much does it cost to make 'Miriam' look human? (Keep in mind the Miriam show only runs for 12 weeks or so).

    Must be the secret coke and hooker budget.
    "Just stick it on hair and makeup, no one will notice"


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    is there a list of all the cost out there.
    i would love to see how much could be easily cut


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    is there a list of all the cost out there.
    i would love to see how much could be easily cut

    Prices would probably be lower if jobsbridge was brought back-would be very useful to RTE to bring in some poor sod to present the news and pay em a tenner on top of their unemployment assistance.

    (Not mocking unemployment assistance btw-mocking rte and their 'quality' programming).


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    if they had a cap on presenters salery at 50k and bring in as much young presenters as poisible . use it as a spring board


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    if they had a cap on presenters salery at 50k and bring in as much young presenters as poisible . use it as a spring board

    They scrapped their young people's programming division-so that's not gonna happen. :(

    That was always the entryway into RTE.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,430 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    if they had a cap on presenters salery at 50k and bring in as much young presenters as poisible . use it as a spring board


    Presenters salary don't amount to a spit in a barrel.
    They're just another sign of the money is no object attitude that seems to prevail.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,512 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    kneemos wrote: »
    Presenters salary don't amount to a spit in a barrel.
    They're just another sign of the money is no object attitude that seems to prevail.

    im not so sure its such a small figure. the top 10 are costing 2.5 M a year.
    add up all the presenters and other staff and put them on normal saleries and you would save a nice bit.

    the is stupid money spent in all areas. those make up figures are crazy


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Here's what I can't understand

    Licence inspectors are checking 8000 prems. per week per ad.

    They know before they call if the owner is non compliant per ad.

    That's 32000 a month around 380000 premises a year!

    Surely at that rate and armed with the info they say they have, licence fee evasion should be wiped out long ago.

    Where am I not understanding this stuff lads.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,964 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    Of which probably €150,000 is returned to government in tax.

    I always find it funny how the sensationalist media whine about well paid people and compare their own take home pay to the well paid people's gross pay.

    So yes her take home salary of 170k is very nice, it's not outrageous in the scheme of things and I believe substantially lower than what she was on in Discovery channel and far lower than private sector equivalent for companies of similar size.

    But people will whine away anyway.

    Yet they won't whine about the amount spent on emergency housing or if they are a mortgage payer, the amount of their payment that goes towrds those who don't pay their mortgage (estimated at over 20,000 mortgage holders and costing average mortgage payer over €500 a year - three times the TV licence fee)

    Nope, you mention that and you get shot down.


    Except none of the top earners pay anything close to the tax they should be paying as they use private companies to limit their tax exposure


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rt-stars-using-companies-to-reduce-tax-exposure-37078528.html


    Hopefully this will be put to an end soon


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Except none of the top earners pay anything close to the tax they should be paying as they use private companies to limit their tax exposure


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/rt-stars-using-companies-to-reduce-tax-exposure-37078528.html


    Hopefully this will be put to an end soon

    Sadly, when staff get let go from RTE, due to 'cuts' their pay will then more than likely be given to the people in front of the camera. So no cost cutting measures at all.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,647 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Has anyone seen the sign about RTE above a disused shop on Burgh Quay near Tara St. station?

    It goes
    "RTEs Best Presenters"
    Then three pictures of Dustin, Zig and Zag and Socky
    Then "All the rest are Muppets"


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,467 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Has anyone seen the sign about RTE above a disused shop on Burgh Quay near Tara St. station?

    It goes
    "RTEs Best Presenters"
    Then three pictures of Dustin, Zig and Zag and Socky
    Then "All the rest are Muppets"

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3474896,-6.2552947,3a,16.6y,200.16h,93.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sptkWILgc9FFazqp-DV9aSg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    the 'Hair Bill" for Ray D'arcy was 3.5k last year:confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    fritzelly wrote: »

    And Dustin killed his career with Eurovision.

    And Podge and Rodge killed their career with that terrible quiz show...

    Which just leaves Zig and Zag...and...jeez, RTE have no good presenters now...

    :(


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 91,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    RTÉ orchestra to come under National Concert Hall remit

    Will this free up some licence fee ??


    Yeah right,


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,467 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    RTÉ orchestra to come under National Concert Hall remit

    Will this free up some licence fee ??


    Yeah right,

    Dee has already spent the money


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Over the course of a few months, they should have a text-in / call in survey


    Txt in :

    your tv licence number and

    YES or NO

    to keep this program


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    gctest50 wrote: »
    Over the course of a few months, they should have a text-in / call in survey

    Do you work in the telecoms industry ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    the 'Hair Bill" for Ray D'arcy was 3.5k last year:confused:

    Jaysus, it's cost €10 a pop down the barbers and he hasn't got much of it to begin with.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    Jaysus, it's cost €10 a pop down the barbers and he hasn't got much of it to begin with.

    Or shave it all off-it's free. Anyone can do it, and takes zero effort.


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,324 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    So now they’re showing daily repeats (best of) of the today show!

    A show they repeat the morning after every days broadcast!!

    Currently it’s a show from Christmas im assuming, as there is a Christmas tree! Hi Ho Ho


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    So now they’re showing daily repeats (best of) of the today show!

    A show they repeat the morning after every days broadcast!!

    Currently it’s a show from Christmas im assuming, as there is a Christmas tree! Hi Ho Ho

    This is it. Hundreds of media students would kill for a spot on RTE. They actually make programs/short films as part of their courses. Not to mention small independents looking to publicise documentaries and the like.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    This is it. Hundreds of media students would kill for a spot on RTE. They actually make programs/short films as part of their courses. Not to mention small independents looking to publicise documentaries and the like.

    That's the difference between RTE and the BBC the unconnected youth from all regions of the country are given a chance

    The results speak for themselves


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,430 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    They generally shut down for the summer anyway.
    Repeat any old crap time after time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    This is it. Hundreds of media students would kill for a spot on RTE. They actually make programs/short films as part of their courses. Not to mention small independents looking to publicise documentaries and the like.

    Media, like teaching, is a dead industry-just don't do it.
    You will not get a job out of it. It's who you know, not what you know. Look at presenters on RTe or tv3, and you will find people who got jobs with zero required effort. (James Kavanagh, gay instagrammer for one. Glenda Gilson ex-gf for another).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    That's the difference between RTE and the BBC the unconnected youth from all regions of the country are given a chance

    The results speak for themselves

    Exactly. And a lot of what the BBC make (on their 'lesser' channels) is absolute garbage, but that's grand because they're developing talent and the industry in doing so, which pays itself back in many ways - tourism, box offices, sales of shows (BBC must make a killing off of this) and so on. And then obviously the BBC also makes a lot of excellent stuff to counter the muck, including some of the biggest and best known shows in the entire world.

    In RTE it's just a 'happy family' cohort pocketing the money while trying to do, or create, as little as possible. They then pocket more through again the ad money, which I wouldn't actually mind much if that money went to a decent use. Instead it goes towards brushing a bald man's head, keeping the stupidly overpaid products of nepotism even more stupidly overpaid, and pricing private competitors like TV3 out of the market for British/American sitcoms and such because RTE would rather give the taxpayers' money to foreign distributors than even bother trying to develop anything of their own.

    I'm faster and faster moving to the side that the entirety of RTE should be scrapped outright.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    So now they’re showing daily repeats (best of) of the today show!

    A show they repeat the morning after every days broadcast!!

    Currently it’s a show from Christmas im assuming, as there is a Christmas tree! Hi Ho Ho

    And showing repeats of the LAte Late Show in a prime time slot...

    Which draws questions as to whether it is 'such a prime slot' if they can just ram repeats in there without giving a toss. And if not, then its obvious that the Late Late has become filler rather than a genuine culturally important show.

    There was a time when the friday night late slot meant something. Pretty much most of RTE's funding was earned via Friday nights.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,467 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    There was a time when the friday night late slot meant something. Pretty much most of RTE's funding was earned via Friday nights.

    A time when there wasn't much choice on tv to start with but they're still living in those times

    Think it was in the Times about an investigation into all these private companie (sic employees)

    Examiner!
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/report-bring-in-law-on-rte-payments-to-top-presenters-472733.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,467 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    RTE want the GAA to play more games that they can show because no one else will want to show them - well that is how I read it even tho they have no rights to show them for years


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    fritzelly wrote: »
    RTE want the GAA to play more games that they can show because no one else will want to show them - well that is how I read it even tho they have no rights to show them for years

    They're worried cos Sky have the rights to so many now. The GAA are smart enough to not sell 'all' the games to Sky... but I doubt that will last. The Rugby have moved away from RTE, the horse racing too, the football (soccer) is pretty much a dead weight so nobody really wants it...

    ...it won't be too long until RTE loses the GAA, and then the All-Ireland Finals. And they'll have nobody to blame but themselves.


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