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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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    #4442
    Skyfloater
    Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭Skyfloater


    I know it's been said before, but how in the name of god did George Lee end up as Science correspondent?? His background is economics, how does RTE overlook the many better qualified people in their own works canteen for someone who hasn't opened a science book since his leaving cert.


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    #4443
    sligojoek
    Registered Users Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Skyfloater wrote: »
    I know it's been said before, but how in the name of god did George Lee end up as Science correspondent?? His background is economics, how does RTE overlook the many better qualified people in their own works canteen for someone who hasn't opened a science book since his leaving cert.

    He's still on the naughty step after running for FG in the dail. The whiney sad voice is getting plenty of practice these days.


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    #4444
    jippo nolan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,387 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    Skyfloater wrote: »
    I know it's been said before, but how in the name of god did George Lee end up as Science correspondent?? His background is economics, how does RTE overlook the many better qualified people in their own works canteen for someone who hasn't opened a science book since his leaving cert.

    As I said before, during the floods last year,
    He was reporting from a farm in county Roscommon, up to his knees in cowsh:te.
    I think he went whinging to D4forbs to get him the hell out of there!


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    #4445
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    yrreg0850 wrote: »
    We certainly don't need two orchestras when they rarely move outside the M50.

    One is supposed to be heading to the NCH, but ... that gives RTÉ about €7.5m extra in funding.


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    #4446
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,976 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Elmo wrote: »
    One is supposed to be heading to the NCH, but ... that gives RTÉ about €7.5m extra in funding.

    RTE having the orchestras under it's wing is only an accounting exercise.

    The real question is, do we want the orchestras?

    Whether one goes to NCH or not won't save the tax payer any money.

    Even though I don't go to hear them I think it is a good thing to have them and don't begrudge them their funding.


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    #4447
    Viscount Aggro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    We don't need or want the orchestras , in the current climate
    ive been once, and its elitist toss.
    Fcuk them.. Its a quick cost savings.


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    #4448
    Viscount Aggro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭Viscount Aggro


    We don't need or want the orchestras , in the current climate
    ive been once, and its elitist toss.
    Fcuk them.. Its a quick cost savings.


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    #4449
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,976 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Viscount Aggro wrote: »
    We don't need or want the orchestras , in the current climate
    ive been once, and its elitist toss.
    Fcuk them.. Its a quick cost savings.

    Bit harsh but I'd say many would agree with you.
    On the other hand maybe a bit of culture is worth supporting.
    In the greater scheme of things it's not a lot of money.


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    #4450
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    elperello wrote: »
    RTE having the orchestras under it's wing is only an accounting exercise.

    The real question is, do we want the orchestras?

    Whether one goes to NCH or not won't save the tax payer any money.

    Even though I don't go to hear them I think it is a good thing to have them and don't begrudge them their funding.

    Not sure if it’s an accounting exercise, RTÉ are required to provide them.

    My issue would be more like if perhaps if RTÉ decided the concert orchestra was in need of a new logo!!! They’d never waste time and money on a new logo for the CO ... right?


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    #4451
    yrreg0850
    Registered Users Posts: 531 ✭✭✭yrreg0850


    elperello wrote: »
    Bit harsh but I'd say many would agree with you.
    On the other hand maybe a bit of culture is worth supporting.
    In the greater scheme of things it's not a lot of money.

    Why should the taxpayer pay for a so called RTE " National " orchestra when they rarely play outside the national concert hall

    RTE added the "National" tag in order to get state funding for what is in effect the RTE orchestra.


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    #4452
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,976 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    My point was that Ireland Inc. needs to decide do we want the orchestras or not.

    There is no need for their fate to be tied to RTE's fortunes.

    If we want them we have to pay for them.


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    #4453
    PCeeeee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    Why two Orchestras?


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    #4454
    NIMAN
    Registered Users Posts: 33,601 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    Why two Orchestras?

    Ones a 'symphony', the others a 'concert'.

    I'm not that musical but I'd guess there are differences. .


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    #4455
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,976 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    Why two Orchestras?

    They cover different genres of music.
    The Symphony is classical.
    The Concert is more varied doing jazz, popular music etc.


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    #4456
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    yrreg0850 wrote: »
    Why should the taxpayer pay for a so called RTE " National " orchestra when they rarely play outside the national concert hall

    RTE added the "National" tag in order to get state funding for what is in effect the RTE orchestra.

    They dropped National from the CO, NSO is National as it’s home is mainly in the NCH one of the reasons to merge the NSO & NCH.

    I think the argument about either Orchestra has little to do with RTÉ looking for more money as they are both statutory, up to legislators to move them out of RTÉ and if we should continue to have them. Meanwhile they remain part of RTÉ. We can’t blame RTÉ for their existence.


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    #4457
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's wrong with an Orchestra anyway ? we don't have enough!

    I'd rather an Orchestra playing proper music than listen to over paid DJ's.


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    #4458
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Deleted User wrote: »
    What's wrong with an Orchestra anyway ? we don't have enough!

    I'd rather an Orchestra playing proper music than listen to over paid DJ's.

    Nobody would have a problem with them if they actually played outside of Dublin. And then trying to get tickets is impossible.

    They only want to play in Dublin so let the Dubliners pay for them.


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    #4459
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,327 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Nobody would have a problem with them if they actually played outside of Dublin. And then trying to get tickets is impossible.

    They only want to play in Dublin so let the Dubliners pay for them.

    Get the Dublin people to pay for something?

    Good God-you'd have more luck finding a leprechaun's crock of Gold.


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    #4460
    PCeeeee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    What's wrong with an Orchestra anyway ? we don't have enough!

    I'd rather an Orchestra playing proper music than listen to over paid DJ's.

    There's two for you now. 😉


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    #4461
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Get the Dublin people to pay for something?

    Good God-you'd have more luck finding a leprechaun's crock of Gold.

    Thanks for the Luas by the way ;)


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    #4462
    Elmo
    Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Bowie wrote: »
    Thanks for the Luas by the way ;)

    Northsiders thank you for half a luas and a bridge to the southside!


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    #4463
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Nobody would have a problem with them if they actually played outside of Dublin. And then trying to get tickets is impossible.

    They only want to play in Dublin so let the Dubliners pay for them.


    How are getting tickets impossible?


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    #4464
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    How are getting tickets impossible?

    Seems like they're always sold out.


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    #4465
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I enjoyed watching the Zoo on RTE 1. :D


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    #4466
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Watching the Dana documentary now, it's pretty good. :-)


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    #4467
    TheRiverman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,150 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Dana documentary is excellent.I was never a fan of her and her singing,but she was really blackguarded in the 2011 Presidential Election campaign.


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    #4468
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TheRiverman wrote: »
    Dana documentary is excellent.I was never a fan of her and her singing,but she was really blackguarded in the 2011 Presidential Election campaign.

    Vincent Brown was such a pr1ck.

    Good Documentary alright glad I watched it now.

    Shame in a way she got involved in politic.

    Great voice, shame the Eurovision has got so bad, how did it happen ?


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    #4469
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,327 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Bowie wrote: »
    Thanks for the Luas by the way ;)

    Thanks for taking on Corona so the rest of us didn't. :p


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    #4470
    TheRiverman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,150 ✭✭✭TheRiverman


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Vincent Brown was such a pr1ck.

    Good Documentary alright glad I watched it now.

    Shame in a way she got involved in politic.

    Great voice, shame the Eurovision has got so bad, how did it happen ?

    I was surprised she went into interview with Vincent Brown apparently not knowing anything about his hatchet job style.

    Pop music in general today is dire and Eurovision became part of that.It also became a platform for agendas and the outrageous and was allowed to do so.


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    #4471
    Brendan Bendar
    Registered Users Posts: 19,475 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    TheRiverman wrote: »
    I was surprised she went into interview with Vincent Brown apparently not knowing anything about his hatchet job style.

    Pop music in general today is dire and Eurovision became part of that.It also became a platform for agendas and the outrageous and was allowed to do so.

    Based on what elderly relatives tell me auld Vinny used to have a show at 2200 RTÉ 1 radio, himself and a dude called Sean Ardagh used to ‘josh’ with each other and a few lefties.

    All gentle ribbing usually, it’s said, then some poor coin of a (usually)FG councillor would be engaged and set upon by ‘pack’ and torn to bits while the host sat back and sniggered.

    That’s what I was told anyway, may not be true, but the Dana interview seems kind of similar.

    Must try to dig it up.


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