Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

jetfiremuck

So having Amy Humermann driving arond Ireland with her kid in a camper all expenses paid is entertaining ?

Whats Daithi O se job sitting on a chair while Ray busts a nut for 15 mins......lazy bolix.

mgn

jetfiremuck wrote: »

So having Amy Humermann driving arond Ireland with her kid in a camper all expenses paid is entertaining ?

Whats Daithi O se job sitting on a chair while Ray busts a nut for 15 mins......lazy bolix.

The have to keep their big stars happy otherwise the likes of Netflix or the BBC would snap them up,
I thought everyone knew that.

jmcc

After finding out that BBC4's blank screen had an audience of 35,000 people, RTE is planning its own version with Ryan Tubridy. After all, it had knocked off the Portillo idea for the Enda Kenny digout and train tour show.

Regards...jmcc

Brendan Bendar

jmcc wrote: »

After finding out that BBC4's blank screen had an audience of 35,000 people, RTE is planning its own version with Ryan Tubridy. After all, it had knocked off the Portillo idea for the Enda Kenny digout and train tour show.

Regards...jmcc

So just because it was Enda, you took ‘umbrage’ .........good lad.... kind of figures you out.

Stay classy dude.

jmcc

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

So just because it was Enda, you took ‘umbrage’ .........good lad.... kind of figures you out.

Is it true that there is a rumour that the working title for the RTE programme was "Enda the line"?

Regards...jmcc

Elmo

elperello wrote: »

I think I may have taken you up wrongly when you mentioned the performance of DF & NC over the last decade and you didn't mean in relation to actually doing the job of running RTE but were referring to reform.

Their job of running RTÉ has also been dire, as part of reform comes from running the broadcaster/company.

Under the DG there are 9 executives. They report to and advise the DG. In fairness to both DGs they are reliant on their directors to advise them correctly, while also considering that their advise may not be in RTÉ interests. That's a balancing act that the DG/CEO must weigh up.

However the DG must also ask question when strategies are put in place that are not working.

NC as a former director of TV would have had a good idea of what this involved.

When his head of Radio suggested that Ryan T should replace Gerry R they should had had an idea of what type of audience would have be expectable for one of their highest earns, this is due to the fact that the Board of RTÉ oversee the payments to the top earners.

During those 5 years on 2fm neither the board, executive board nor the DG questioned why Ryan T was under preforming. After a year or even 2 the Head of Radio should have said, its time to move Ryan T back to R1 as he is not working out on 2FM. This should have been a pressing issue for both the board and the executive board as they have to defend such wages.

This is just one example of the day-to-day running of the organization.

There are then other issues that are beyond the reach of RTÉ. Such as reform of the license fee.

I'm in danger of the broken record jibe but I'll say again that I want to see a sustainable Public Broadcasting Service paid for out of general taxation.

Funding is one of those areas. I have no problem with RTÉ banging on about the amount of money it receives however even their own advise the the current Future of Media Commission is hypocritical of their previous view (though things do change).

This idea that all funding coming from the exchequer resolves the problem of avoidance and evasion is correct. However it does not set the funding to public broadcasting on a stable basis.

This was outline in RTÉ's independent report into the NSO and NCO. It clearly pointed out that such funding to the NSO or NCO would be at the whim of the government, for example budget 2021 gave €8m to the NSO.... Budget 2022 could reduce this to €4m! it possibly won't but this is with in the power of the Cabinet.

Thus for RTÉ it becomes political.

... RTÉ have changed their mind, opting to suggest that such funding should now come from the exchequer. They point to.... TG4's ability to retain funding due to it coming from the exchequer ......

However, between 2011 and 2018 TG4's "grant-in-aid" was reduced and the governments choose to fill the gap in that funding from.... the license fee. In 2019 it was return to RTÉ. So RTÉ actually felt the effects of a government budget cut to TG4's exchequer funding.

I have said repeatedly that it should come from some from of VAT or Culture charge that would be set by the BAI and Comreg. This would solve those problems.

However none of this bring us to the reality that neither DG in the last 10 years was able to reform the broadcaster from within.

Dee Forbes list is an endless one from ONE RTÉ to a revised strategy 2024.

Noel Curran's implemented cuts to Drama, comedy and Children's television.

These are what they as DG/CEO choose to change over the course of the last 10 years.

Corp HQ retained its funding of €5m per year (now entirely funding by the license fee)
2FM was give a bailout while children's TV was cut
Drama was put on the long finger, you could see RTÉ looking at the announcement that €10m was going to the IFB/BSÉ to fund TV drama, their escape from Drama while riding on the back of more and more co-productions.

This is the day to day running of the broadcaster, these are the decision that RTÉ make on a daily basis.

Eric Cartman

Just find out about Ianroid Enda , dear sweet Jesus Im glad they've never got a cent out of me.

jetfiremuck

Elmo wrote: »

Their job of running RTÉ has also been dire, as part of reform comes from running the broadcaster/company.

Under the DG there are 9 executives. They report to and advise the DG. In fairness to both DGs they are reliant on their directors to advise them correctly, while also considering that their advise may not be in RTÉ interests. That's a balancing act that the DG/CEO must weigh up.

However the DG must also ask question when strategies are put in place that are not working.

NC as a former director of TV would have had a good idea of what this involved.

When his head of Radio suggested that Ryan T should replace Gerry R they should had had an idea of what type of audience would have be expectable for one of their highest earns, this is due to the fact that the Board of RTÉ oversee the payments to the top earners.

During those 5 years on 2fm neither the board, executive board nor the DG questioned why Ryan T was under preforming. After a year or even 2 the Head of Radio should have said, its time to move Ryan T back to R1 as he is not working out on 2FM. This should have been a pressing issue for both the board and the executive board as they have to defend such wages.

This is just one example of the day-to-day running of the organization.

There are then other issues that are beyond the reach of RTÉ. Such as reform of the license fee.



Funding is one of those areas. I have no problem with RTÉ banging on about the amount of money it receives however even their own advise the the current Future of Media Commission is hypocritical of their previous view (though things do change).

This idea that all funding coming from the exchequer resolves the problem of avoidance and evasion is correct. However it does not set the funding to public broadcasting on a stable basis.

This was outline in RTÉ's independent report into the NSO and NCO. It clearly pointed out that such funding to the NSO or NCO would be at the whim of the government, for example budget 2021 gave €8m to the NSO.... Budget 2022 could reduce this to €4m! it possibly won't but this is with in the power of the Cabinet.

Thus for RTÉ it becomes political.

... RTÉ have changed their mind, opting to suggest that such funding should now come from the exchequer. They point to.... TG4's ability to retain funding due to it coming from the exchequer ......

However, between 2011 and 2018 TG4's "grant-in-aid" was reduced and the governments choose to fill the gap in that funding from.... the license fee. In 2019 it was return to RTÉ. So RTÉ actually felt the effects of a government budget cut to TG4's exchequer funding.

I have said repeatedly that it should come from some from of VAT or Culture charge that would be set by the BAI and Comreg. This would solve those problems.

However none of this bring us to the reality that neither DG in the last 10 years was able to reform the broadcaster from within.

Dee Forbes list is an endless one from ONE RTÉ to a revised strategy 2024.

Noel Curran's implemented cuts to Drama, comedy and Children's television.

These are what they as DG/CEO choose to change over the course of the last 10 years.

Corp HQ retained its funding of €5m per year (now entirely funding by the license fee)
2FM was give a bailout while children's TV was cut
Drama was put on the long finger, you could see RTÉ looking at the announcement that €10m was going to the IFB/BSÉ to fund TV drama, their escape from Drama while riding on the back of more and more co-productions.

This is the day to day running of the broadcaster, these are the decision that RTÉ make on a daily basis.

Easiest way to fund it is a line item on the ESB bill. Any one with an electric bill can pay. The caveat being thst thiogs cant coninue as they are.

jippo nolan

jetfiremuck wrote: »

Easiest way to fund it is a line item on the ESB bill. Any one with an electric bill can pay. The caveat being thst thiogs cant coninue as they are.

So we put all the loss makers on our ESB bill, just like the PMPA, various insurance companies, sounds great!

jetfiremuck

jippo nolan wrote: »

So we put all the loss makers on our ESB bill, just like the PMPA, various insurance companies, sounds great!

Well if you look at the bigger picture, rather than keep screwing the payers who pay and the gougers who will never pay and wasting money on useless and fruitless collection efforts/staff etc ads and the sort, then it starts to make sense. the rate could stay the same if everyone who had an esb paid 14euro same as now. Ring fenced just for RTE.

The J Stands for Jay

jetfiremuck wrote: »

Well if you look at the bigger picture, rather than keep screwing the payers who pay and the gougers who will never pay and wasting money on useless and fruitless collection efforts/staff etc ads and the sort, then it starts to make sense. the rate could stay the same if everyone who had an esb paid 14euro same as now. Ring fenced just for RTE.

Isn't collecting via the multitude of companies that supply electricity wasting money on useless collection efforts when it could just be funded directly from taxation?

rightmove

years ago we had pot hole candidates in elections and they got elected. would be great to see a defund rte candidate run. They would get my vote.

RabbleRouser2k

jetfiremuck wrote: »

So having Amy Humermann driving arond Ireland with her kid in a camper all expenses paid is entertaining ?

Whats Daithi O se job sitting on a chair while Ray busts a nut for 15 mins......lazy bolix.

Was that not Kathryn Thomas?

RabbleRouser2k

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Was that not Kathryn Thomas?

You’re right, of course. They do seem to blur into one another sometimes.

RabbleRouser2k

Deleted User wrote: »

You’re right, of course. They do seem to blur into one another sometimes.

Huberman is scary up close-like... for an actress, she really doesn't know 'her angles'.

Gen.Zhukov

Listening to PK yesterday morning for a while. Took note of an ad break.

* Quote Devil (no surprise there)
* Enterprise. com (?)
* PowerCity
* Pictorium photo shop (yeah, I don't know either)
* National training centre (?)
* SuperValu.
* Trocaire.
* Link finance.

That's 8 revenue generating ads.


Popped over to waffles (RT) and had to suffer 7 mins of scutter before an ad break.

* RTE NSO live.
* HSE Bowel screenig.

So I'd imagine RTE's ad fees are too expensive.
Instead of reducing your prices, you accept reduced advertising and claim that your revenue is down and continue to claim the wage income support from the govt.

Nice one Dee.

fritzelly

It's the same all day, ads for their own shows and government

The J Stands for Jay

fritzelly wrote: »

It's the same all day, ads for their own shows and government

Same as the BBC

McGaggs

McGaggs wrote: »

Same as the BBC

Big difference is there’s no commercial advertising on BBC (except some BBC world podcasts, which hardly count)

fritzelly

Deleted User wrote: »

Big difference is there’s no commercial advertising on BBC (except some BBC world podcasts, which hardly count)

Whoooooosh

Elmo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Big difference is there’s no commercial advertising on BBC (except some BBC world podcasts, which hardly count)

Also UKTV channels, dave, W, drama, yesterday, gold.

https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/fashion/2021/0413/1209625-una-healy-dazzles-in-monochrome-mini-dress-on-today-show/

Una is easy on the eye but RTE are insisting on foisting her upon viewers and here the RTE website is pushing her line of clothing.
She is being groomed for z-list stardom.
This is not what a Public Service Broadcaster should be doing.

NIMAN

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/fashion/2021/0413/1209625-una-healy-dazzles-in-monochrome-mini-dress-on-today-show/

Una is easy on the eye but RTE are insisting on foisting her upon viewers and here the RTE website is pushing her line of clothing.
She is being groomed for z-list stardom.
This is not what a Public Service Broadcaster should be doing.

"Una dazzled".
Daithi looked pretty dapper too!

Public Service Broadcasting should be more than "Una in a Gúna".

Elmo

Deleted User wrote: »

Public Service Broadcasting should be more than "Una in a Gúna".

Imagine RTÉ wanted to buy joe.ie and her.ie but are very capable of writing non-stories themselves!

RabbleRouser2k

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/fashion/2021/0413/1209625-una-healy-dazzles-in-monochrome-mini-dress-on-today-show/

Una is easy on the eye but RTE are insisting on foisting her upon viewers and here the RTE website is pushing her line of clothing.
She is being groomed for z-list stardom.
This is not what a Public Service Broadcaster should be doing.

She was VM1 too, filling in for Muireann O'Connell while Muireann was dealing with her father's passing.

Is she trying to be a Country Singer, or a TV presenter?

ButtersSuki

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

Listening to PK yesterday morning for a while. Took note of an ad break.

* Quote Devil (no surprise there)
* Enterprise. com (?)
* PowerCity
* Pictorium photo shop (yeah, I don't know either)
* National training centre (?)
* SuperValu.
* Trocaire.
* Link finance.

That's 8 revenue generating ads.


Popped over to waffles (RT) and had to suffer 7 mins of scutter before an ad break.

* RTE NSO live.
* HSE Bowel screenig.

So I'd imagine RTE's ad fees are too expensive.
Instead of reducing your prices, you accept reduced advertising and claim that your revenue is down and continue to claim the wage income support from the govt.

Nice one Dee.

Duffy/Liveline is worse. Only ads are for what’s coming up on D’Arcy.

Maysa07

Gen.Zhukov wrote: »

Listening to PK yesterday morning for a while. Took note of an ad break.

* Quote Devil (no surprise there)
* Enterprise. com (?)
* PowerCity
* Pictorium photo shop (yeah, I don't know either)
* National training centre (?)
* SuperValu.
* Trocaire.
* Link finance.

That's 8 revenue generating ads.


Popped over to waffles (RT) and had to suffer 7 mins of scutter before an ad break.

* RTE NSO live.
* HSE Bowel screenig.

So I'd imagine RTE's ad fees are too expensive.
Instead of reducing your prices, you accept reduced advertising and claim that your revenue is down and continue to claim the wage income support from the govt.

Nice one Dee.

RTE's adds are shorter by law. Something to do with the licence fee, Well, on TV anyway, i think it's the same for Radio.

Elmo

Maysa07 wrote: »

RTE's adds are shorter by law. Something to do with the licence fee, Well, on TV anyway, i think it's the same for Radio.

This is true. RTÉ and TG4 can only show 6mins on average of ads per hour with 9 mins maximum

Independent Radio has an average of 9mins and a max of 12. per hour

While Independent TV has a max of 12. per hour.

However I think RTÉ could sell advertising not just to the HSE, who became the 4 biggest advertiser in March for TV!

Widescreen

RTE should make 6.01 a half hour programme with one newscaster.

Surely there would be some significant savings by doing it.

The current hour long set up is crazy waste of taxpayers money, no wonder David McCullough fancied the job!

Three people to cover the news and little or no sport.

Since I am working from home I have seen it more and in fairness after about 20 minutes they are filling it with stuff that could be on Nationwide!

As for this lazing around on big couches, what a joke that is!

The nine o'clock news is more like what it should be I think.