Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121201191#Comment_121201191

The business model of a pirate radio station is very different from a licensed one which has to pay income tax, PRSI, rates, etc.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121203045#Comment_121203045

We pause Ireland's World Cup match for the Angelus.

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121211656#Comment_121211656

The Angelus was cancelled for Biden's visit apparently.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/angelus-not-broadcast-joe-biden-29701993

glenfieldman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121211918#Comment_121211918

That angelus shite should be scrapped, if we want a minute of reflection we can turn off RTE and all social media, we don’t need this religious shite at a time that the CC agreed on

fritzelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121211978#Comment_121211978

Well they "removed" the religious stuff but still..

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121211978#Comment_121211978

It's an indication of how resistant to change RTE are. The Angelus is almost ironic at this stage.

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121212007#Comment_121212007

It's The Angelus in fairness, it's inherently religious. If they removed the bells maybe and just had folk stopping what they're doing to stare at the sky.

ShamNNspace

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121212028#Comment_121212028

Or maybe just have them staring at their phones informing them of which way to think... Would suit the times we're in

RoTelly

The Angelus is a great distraction why would RTÉ get rid of the Angelus when it cause so many to argue for and against, it completely deflects from the mismanagement of RTÉ.

I have no issue with it either way.

@kneemos RE: number of Digital Radio stations, I assume a wider sense of choice. But again I'd argue that RTÉ can well afford many thing why not spend it digital radio.

RTÉ called for the closure of these stations in their 2024 strategy, and didn't do due diligence on their legal requirements.

This is the same strategy that temporarily cut executive salaries by 10%, I rather see the executives let go of the car allowances and take a 20% cut in salary to funded the RTÉ Digital Radio stations.

political analyst

Today is the second Thursday in a row on which there have been no programme-specific introductions by a continuity announcer on RTÉ One - it's just "This is RTÉ One". What is going on there?

political analyst

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121211918#Comment_121211918

The same happened when Obama was in Dublin.

Hotblack Desiato

You'd nearly expect them to make it two minutes long the next day to make up for it 😋

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121230089#Comment_121230089

RTÉ had massively cut back on Continuity in the last few years, I don't think they have any before 1pm. They don't seem to be able for pre-recorded intros.

RTÉ's preformance at the PAC and the views of come commentators really just point back to Dee Forbes retoric, even YLE got a mention!

RoTelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121230089#Comment_121230089

Noticed this last night for Storyland. I wonder if it is just Thursday Night. This was on RTÉ2, for what RTÉ consider to be a Major part of their Drama output.

fplfan12345

Not been able to keep up with this from afar.

Where is it up to re investigation into wrong doings ?

When is the next meeting ?

Is your one still sick ?

Will anyone every be held accountable or has the long game worked on the Irish public again ?

RabbleRouser2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121262066#Comment_121262066

The Storyland thing reeks of of RTE fulfilling a 'quota', as in they're required to make home produced drama content, and this fulfills the brief.

They won't ever be made into anything beyond the 'one off'. They market it as major drama output, but the major programming is on RTE one. Even the RTE player gets more attention than RTE 2. They even repeat shows on RTE2 that started on the player.

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121291756#Comment_121291756

Why are they making shows for the player?

RabbleRouser2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121291848#Comment_121291848

They're making shows that are meant to be exclusive to the player. But after a few months, they put them on RTE 2. In an attempt to make money back on them, I imagine.

Darren and Joe's Free Gaff was one such show that was player exclusive, and then they put it on RTE 2 after a few months.

kneemos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121291991#Comment_121291991

Bizzare. The other way round surely. Not like there's no room between the repeats for new shows on RTE1 or2.

RabbleRouser2k

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121292019#Comment_121292019

The money they get paid is probably a pittance, and to furthermore pay less, they tell them it's 'content'.

RoTelly

It really all started with Storyland. RTÉ at that point had largely let go of Monday Night new comedy-drama's on RTÉ2 (The last one being the 1st series of RAW, before being moved over to RTÉ ONE, and becoming a sister show to The Clinic, and then taking over that light Sunday Night drama).

Storyland was voted on by the viewers as the weeks went on one of the programmes would be drop from the line up, with the first or second winners being Hardy Bucky's (They'd already had a large online YouTube following).

It never really "showcased" anything. And was mostly likely perceived way for RTÉ to produce drama on the cheap. Since the arrive of Fis Éireann the new drama's have aired on TV, and consist of 8 scripts developed for the series with 3 going into production.

RTÉ since 2006 have been in constant pilot mode with nothing ever sticking. Remember the Format Farm ... and about 3 years ago a set of comedies that were supposed to result in one be coming a series, eventually it they ended up on RTÉ ONE rather then on 2.

I think this is the original announcement for that:-

https://www.screenireland.ie/news/rte-in-association-with-fis-eireann-screen-ireland-announce-search-for-new-comedy-and-drama-series

Dee Frobes said "Encouraging and developing creatives across the sector is at the core of why RTÉ exists and this initiative will also give Irish talent a platform" ... however we now know herself and Moya were

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTXs_JM7MJ8

I don't really know another way to explain all of this: -

• RTÉ spent €18m on Drama, this includes RTÉ's commission unit spent €2.5m on Drama in 2022.
• Meaning that Fair City has a budget of about €15.5m (Though I realize Drama on Radio gets about €500k)
• RTÉ also "imported" €4.4m from Irish producers (this also includes other genres), so I am not sure how much of it goes towards drama, but lets give them the benefit as say 100% goes towards drama.
• That's under €7m on Drama (when we exclude Fair City). Or as RTÉ would say just 2% of their total budget for 2022.

I don't really know why TG4 or VMTV could not do what RTÉ are doing in terms of Drama output based on these figures. VMTV is spending at least €20m on imports and TG4 is spending about €3m. I know much of TG4's imports are children's TV and people may feel that TG4 would be stepping into English Language production but TG4 have always aired English Language programming.

RTÉ basically have moved their RTÉ2/Network2 shows online, and basically this has lead to even tighter budgets but also let to an awful lot of slush that no one is watching.

happyoutscan

Any sign of Dee or is she still making a mockery of those with genuine health issues?

Micheal Varadkar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121244581#Comment_121244581

RTÉ Radio has also massively cut back on Continuity in recent years, a few years ago, they used to have live continuity announcers on every evening saying, "This is RTE Radio 1 on 88 to 90 FM, 252 khz & 1190 Meters longwave, online and on the astra sat" .... ...but now you only get them on weekends and they don't mention frequencies etc anymore.

Gen.Zhukov

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121298501#Comment_121298501

She's on her deathbed*...apparently

*sun lounger beside an infinity pool in a 5* resort in the Seychelles

Bass Reeves

This is in tomorrow's Independent.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/ellen-coyne-gay-byrne-event-felt-like-an-ode-to-rte-until-pat-kenny-was-forced-to-shut-down-stinging-criticism/a1277214752.html

The Gay Byrne Memorial Lecture for the Royal Television Society ( that a new one on me) obviously an anarchist got in. He was shut down by Oat Kenny who was supposed to be a moderator and Moya Doherty felt his contribution did not need to be responded to.

The audience ( all TV people and Journalists) were not impressed.

It's not right that an ordinary Joe Soap gets a say.

Probably worth the price of the Indo tomorrow

ShamNNspace

It's their own private montrosia and 👇

alzer100

Kenny was obviously there last night to stomp out any criticism. A right sham!

Hotblack Desiato

Nothing is worth the price of the Indo...

fritzelly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121322781#Comment_121322781

There's alternatives to paying

fplfan12345

Another national scandal where the people’s money has been stolen and the perpetrators are allowed to play the time game.

The game that finishes when the people are asking - ‘yeah, whatever happened with that ?’

Absolute disgrace and a perfect example of why the country is ruined.

Ireland should be a fantastic country for people to live in but it has been run, for decades, by thieving criminals.