A Days Work For A Dublin Bus Driver

Fighting Tao

dublinbuster wrote: »

why fight hitler?
he is only killing people on continental europe
he will leave the uk and usa alone

It's simple. You don't have to put up and shut up. Find a job elsewhere that will make you happy. Live is too short to be miserable. However, I suspect you prefer to moan rather than do something about your situation.

bucketybuck

dublinbuster wrote: »

the fact that db pay about 10k more

no extra effort

Thats Dublin bus for you.

dublinbuster

PokeHerKing wrote: »

I'm a little confused by your OP. How many hours do you work and how much do you get paid?

Is there health/pension or any other add-ons included with your pay?

off top of head
39 hour
about 42/44k cant be more exact of top of head, excludes ot
contrary to popular belief zero ad ons/perks/bonus/freebies
**** pension that we pay into worth e130 a week when you hit retirement, which will probable be 75 in the next few years

dublinbuster

Fighting Tao wrote: »

I, I suspect you prefer to moan rather than do something about your situation.

next time a bus does not turn up remember what you posted here

Fighting Tao

dublinbuster wrote: »

next time a bus does not turn up remember what you posted here

I don't get the bus often but I would advise anyone that is not happy in their job to change job.

Do you really want to be miserable in a place where you spend approximately 1/3 of your life?

Stephen15

If you think Dublin Bus workers have it easy and cushy and are overpaid why don't you apply next time they are hiring. If you don't you are either on the dole and too lazy to work or you don't have a full driving licence if your looking for a driving role that is.

pjohnson

Or maybe ya don't live in Dublin :pac:

Stephen15

pjohnson wrote: »

Or maybe ya don't live in Dublin :pac:

Then you can apply for Bus Eireann same parent company same wages and same conditions more or less. Plenty of DB drivers don't live in Dublin also.

pjohnson

dublinbuster wrote: »

money solves all problems
throw enough money at a problem it will go away
the fact that db pay about 10k more than go ahead for driving must be eating you and others alive
the pay rise will at the very least match luas, most likely exceed, the freak out here will be epic
bad roster equals no extra effort, this in turn equals buses not running, this in turn equals fines for db, this in turn equals improved rosters

Why would it eat me alive. Just pointing out stupidity. You want rosters to change. Yet you do nothing to have them change, apparently your solution is to do less work for more money. And you wonder why workplaces avoid hiring ex DB employee's? At least your honest at least about just wanting more money for less work!

pjohnson

Stephen15 wrote: »

Then you can apply for Bus Eireann same parent company same wages and same conditions more or less. Plenty of DB drivers don't live in Dublin also.

Or already be employed. And doing a job you're happy with. Plenty of reasons not to apply actually. That line is quite tired tbh. If you dont support bus drivers you must be unemployed.

amcalester

Stephen15 wrote: »

If you think Dublin Bus workers have it easy and cushy and are overpaid why don't you apply next time they are hiring. If you don't you are either on the dole and too lazy to work or you don't have a full driving licence if your looking for a driving role that is.

I couldn’t afford the pay cut, now would I give up my evenings and weekends.

But then I worked hard to get where I am so I wouldn’t have to work evenings and weekends. I did it for years, didn’t like it, re-skilled and now earn twice what I did before.

I’m still think it’s a cushy job though.

Stephen15

pjohnson wrote: »

Or already be employed. And doing a job you're happy with. Plenty of reasons not to apply actually. That line is quite tired tbh. If you dont support bus drivers you must be unemployed.

If that's the case then maybe you should shut up and let the hard working DB drivers do their job. If your happy in your job fair enough but don't complain about others who may try to improve their lot or maybe your just happy in your because you kiss your employers arse.

Stephen15

amcalester wrote: »

I couldn’t afford the pay cut, now would I give up my evenings and weekends.

But then I worked hard to get where I am so I wouldn’t have to work evenings and weekends. I did it for years, didn’t like it, re-skilled and now earn twice what I did before.

I’m still think it’s a cushy job though.

So it's a cushy job that is lower paid than your job and has worse hours but yet you wouldn't do it. Great logic there.

pjohnson

Stephen15 wrote: »

If that's the case then maybe you should shut up and let the hard working DB drivers do their job. If your happy in your job fair enough but don't complain about others who may try to improve their lot or maybe your just happy in your because you kiss your employers arse.

No I dont. I just do my job if my employer was a cúnt I'd leave. Have you missed the driver posting how he doesn't work hard anymore because of the big mean roster? When they'll strike as usual it spreads to other companies and then we all suffer for their greed.

pjohnson

Stephen15 wrote: »

So it's a cushy job that is lower paid than your job and has worse hours but yet you wouldn't do it. Great logic there.

Why would anyone take a pay cut unless necessary? What logic is that :pac:

Stephen15

pjohnson wrote: »

No I dont. I just do my job if my employer was a cúnt I'd leave. Have you missed the driver posting how he doesn't work hard anymore because of the big mean roster? When they'll strike as usual it spreads to other companies and then we all suffer for their greed.

And if your employer was a cúnt would you work as hard. You even stated that ex DB workers wouldn't get employed by most other employers. So if it was a choice between the dole and working for DB what would you pick?

Fighting Tao

Stephen15 wrote: »

And if your employer was a cúnt would you work as hard. You even stated that ex DB workers wouldn't get employed by most other employers. So if it was a choice between the dole and working for DB what would you pick?

Many opportunities to retrain these days. Other bus companies to drive for.

amcalester

Stephen15 wrote: »

So it's a cushy job that is lower paid than your job and has worse hours but yet you wouldn't do it. Great logic there.

Cushy? Yes.

An attractive job for me? No.

The hours are the hours, can’t really be helped. Someone has to drive the early/late/weekend buses. That doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s a relatively unskilled yet high paying secure job i.e. cushy

pjohnson

Stephen15 wrote: »

And if your employer was a cúnt would you work as hard. You even stated that ex DB workers wouldn't get employed by most other employers. So if it was a choice between the dole and working for DB what would you pick?

If DB is actually toxic I simply wouldn't stay there long enough to become such a work shy money expectant moaner that couldn't be employed elsewhere. I would leave ASAP. I would instead work at what I enjoy. Not work myself to depression.

Stephen15

amcalester wrote: »

Cushy? Yes.

An attractive job for me? No.

The hours are the hours, can’t really be helped. Someone has to drive the early/late/weekend buses. That doesn’t take away from the fact that it’s a relatively unskilled yet high paying secure job i.e. cushy

Double decker buses are not easy to drive a long with rigids they are probably the hardest vehicles on the road to drive. It is not highly paid either new recruits get €30k a year and most drivers would in region the region of €40k. A highly experienced driver could probably expect about €45-50k hardly highly paid is it. How can you say it's unskilled or cushy when you wouldn't do it.

I'm sure you have a highly skilled job.

Stephen15

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Many opportunities to retrain these days. Other bus companies to drive for.

But why would you want to work for any of them. They pay even worse.

Fighting Tao

Stephen15 wrote: »

But why would you want to work for any of them. They pay even worse.

Money isn't everything in life. 1/3 of my day is spent in work. I could have moved a number of times for more money. That would have resulted in more pressure and probably longer hours. I choose to stay where I was happy on less money. I have a better quality of life. I can go in early and leave early and so have more time with my family. I really can't understand why people stay in jobs when they are not happy.

bucketybuck

I really can't understand why people stay in jobs when they are not happy.

Why move when you can take the industry high wages and do a half assed job instead?

amcalester

Stephen15 wrote: »

Double decker buses are not easy to drive a long with rigids they are probably the hardest vehicles on the road to drive. It is not highly paid either new recruits get €30k a year and most drivers would in region the region of €40k. A highly experienced driver could probably expect about €45-50k hardly highly paid is it. How can you say it's unskilled or cushy when you wouldn't do it.

I'm sure you have a highly skilled job.

You’re basing this on the premise that driving is hard. I don’t think it is.

Driving a bus is harder than driving a car but that doesn’t make it hard in the grand scheme of things.

Wages are high in comparison to other unskilled work, particularly in Dublin Bus.

I wouldn’t do it because I can earn more money with better conditions elsewhere.

To be honest I don’t, but I worked out what I’m good at and how to apply it in the real world and I’m well paid for that.

Stephen15

amcalester wrote: »

You’re basing this on the premise that driving is hard. I don’t think it is.

Driving a bus is harder than driving a car but that doesn’t make it hard in the grand scheme of things.

Wages are high in comparison to other unskilled work, particularly in Dublin Bus.

I wouldn’t do it because I can earn more money with better conditions elsewhere.

To be honest I don’t, but I worked out what I’m good at and how to apply it in the real world and I’m well paid for that.

But have you ever driven a bus, do you have a D licence. How you say it's unskilled if you've never done it. What would you class as skilled and unskilled, every job that doesn't require a college degree is it?

So you are admitting that either DB drivers DB drivers don't have it cushy or you have it cushy too.

monument

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