Summer Transfer Thread Bonanza (World Cup watch included)

TitianGerm

the whole year inn wrote: »

They were allready fined ,so suppose they could be looked into again.

Yea it's just a bit odd. Like the value of City is up nearly 5 times to what the takeover was for so you'd understand some increases in sponsorship deals now going forward, but back then some of the deals were crazy high.

There's no way any company would pay more to sponsor City than United based on company values and brand awareness if the deals were conducted correctly.

the whole year inn

TitianGerm wrote: »

Yea it's just a bit odd. Like the value of City is up nearly 5 times to what the takeover was for so you'd understand some increases in sponsorship deals now going forward, but back then some of the deals were crazy high.

There's no way any company would pay more to sponsor City than United based on company values and brand awareness if the deals were conducted correctly.

I am not sure of the deals but the investment put in must have been worth it with the way City have established them self's and improved there brand awareness.

Are City being investigated,I don't think they are but I could be wrong

Agent Coulson

Didn't City have it's squad number reduced to 21 instead of 25 or something like that as a punishment and a 50m fine that was suspended for breaking FFP a couple of seasons ago.

the whole year inn

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Didn't City have it's squad number reduced to 21 instead of 25 or something like that as a punishment and a 50m fine that was suspended for breaking FFP a couple of seasons ago.

Yea they did I forget which year but they were punished.

Agent Coulson

the whole year inn wrote: »

Yea they did I forget which year but they were punished.

I think that was part of the reason the signed Delph, Rodwell & Roberts? the lad from Fulham (Whatever happened to those last two) to bolster the homegrown players when the squad numbers were cut.

the whole year inn

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I think that was part of the reason the signed Delph, Rodwell & Roberts? the lad from Fulham (Whatever happened to those last two) to bolster the homegrown players when the squad numbers were cut.

Not sure about Roswell but Roberts is with Celtic and doing a good job there aswell.

pjohnson

the whole year inn wrote: »

Not sure about Roswell but Roberts is with Celtic and doing a good job there aswell.

Hes back with ye now the loan is up.

the whole year inn

pjohnson wrote: »

Hes back with ye now the loan is up.

Yea looks like you are right,he's loan just finished.

CantGetNoSleep

the whole year inn wrote: »

Yea looks like you are right,he's loan just finished.

Leicester should ask for him in the Mahrez deal

SeanHarty

The club rising in value so much isn't really surprising, the owners have bought so many players and updated the stadium and training grounds around it, all seen as assets rising the value of the club.

Bounty Hunter

gimli2112 wrote: »

Why are we all talking about FPP like it's a thing?

Out of context but I don't think I'll try saying this in the Villa thread atm

Talk in there has swung from hope Grealish isn't looking to leave / people aren't looking to take him to would someone pay enough to get us out of playing all kids while not signing anyone next season because of FFP.

Terry is immediately being linked to Lampard at Derby, I can totally imagine him as a player coach there.

gimli2112

TitianGerm wrote: »

That was two years after the takeover and they paid 200m for the club so it's a bit mad that a sponsorship deal worth double the club could be a true value

in fairness it was over ten years but yeah at the time my reaction was "wtf?" It would be like spending €90M on a goalkeeper in 1999

pjohnson

Ramadan Sobhi left the Egypt squad to have a medical at Huddersfield.

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/footballespana_/status/1003200731145560065

"Roma keeper Alisson reportedly decides to join RealMadrid, who are prepared to pay €60 million"

Harry Palmr

Cheapskates. So where is Navas off to then if this is remotely true?

StringerBell

Rumours this morning of united going in for lorenzo pelligrini

Though if I'm not mistaken he is probably gonna go to Juventus and he had his age listed wrong in the article linking him

StringerBell

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Cheapskates. So where is Navas off to then if this is remotely true?

There's been links from Madrid to him for most of the season, I doubt Madrid care where navas is off to in that eventuality

Agent Coulson

Alisson to Madrid.

Courtois to Atletico.

Butland to Chelsea.

Oblak to Liverpool.

TitianGerm

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

https://twitter.com/footballespana_/status/1003200731145560065

"Roma keeper Alisson reportedly decides to join RealMadrid, who are prepared to pay €60 million"

And with that news the collective sigh of relief from Old Trafford all the plastic fans in the Etihad are blown away.










It's a joke before anyone gets offended :pac:

Cantona's Collars

TitianGerm wrote: »

And with that news the collective sigh of relief from Old Trafford all the plastic fans in the Etihad are blown away.








It's a joke before anyone gets offended :pac:

Wouldn't take much to blow them away in fairness.

SeanHarty

SeanHarty wrote: »

The club rising in value so much isn't really surprising, the owners have bought so many players and updated the stadium and training grounds around it, all seen as assets rising the value of the club.

That's pretty much it. City's value was like sticking a briefcase carrying €100,000 in a 2006 Renault Clio, taking its overall value up to €100,750.

Lucas Hood

Fred due to have a medical today at United. BBC & Sky reporting it.

Masala

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Fred due to have a medical today at United. BBC & Sky reporting it.

Thought City had Fred sewn up since he January window??? Was there a falling out??

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/diarioas/status/1003559930450907136

AS:
Griezmann has decided to stay at Atletico.

irishguitarlad

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

https://twitter.com/diarioas/status/1003559930450907136

AS:
Griezmann has decided to stay at Atletico.

Thats's big news, delighted for Atletico if it's true. Will Barca look at another striker?

Lucas Hood

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Fred due to have a medical today at United. BBC & Sky reporting it.

Super signing if Utd get it over the line

Mitch Connor

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Super signing if Utd get it over the line

I've no idea 9f he's a good or bad signing. Know so little about him. I think I know his type/style, but I've no idea how he'll adapt to the league, or to the united 'midfield'.

Mitch Connor

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I've no idea 9f he's a good or bad signing. Know so little about him. I think I know his type/style, but I've no idea how he'll adapt to the league, or to the united 'midfield'.

Two footed, good passer and can also do a box-to-box role

What's not to like

Mitch Connor

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Two footed, good passer and can also do a box-to-box role

What's not to like

Could make a similar description of Herrera.

Obvious question marks over how a player will adapt to the league. Is the Ukrainian league compatible to the PL to make it not a worry?

Then obvious questions over how united utilise players.

TitianGerm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Could make a similar description of Herrera.

Obvious question marks over how a player will adapt to the league. Is the Ukrainian league compatible to the PL to make it not a worry?

Then obvious questions over how united utilise players.

William and Mikityran were at Shaktar. They have a good eye for a player there.

Mitch Connor

TitianGerm wrote: »

William and Mikityran were at Shaktar. They have a good eye for a player there.

Miki came via dortmund as well. Willian, yeah, but he could be an outlier.

I suppose my line here isn't really about Fred, it's caution that could be applied to all signings, no matter where fro..

blueser

Masala wrote: »

Thought City had Fred sewn up since he January window??? Was there a falling out??

Wild guess here, finances (fee and/or personal terms) maybe? We've shown with Sanchez that we won't be held to ransom by a player or his agent. Very good player, but he'll need to clean up his act. A very ropey disciplinary record.

Mitch Connor

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Could make a similar description of Herrera.

Obvious question marks over how a player will adapt to the league. Is the Ukrainian league compatible to the PL to make it not a worry?

Then obvious questions over how united utilise players.

His CL / Europa League performances were noteworthy. Suspect this is why Utd are signing him.

Utd will line up with Matic, Fred & Pogba in a mid 3.

pjohnson

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Miki came via dortmund as well. Willian, yeah, but he could be an outlier.

I suppose my line here isn't really about Fred, it's caution that could be applied to all signings, no matter where fro..

Fernandinho has done quite well tbh

Harry Palmr

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

https://twitter.com/diarioas/status/1003559930450907136

AS:
Griezmann has decided to stay at Atletico.

If I had a euro for every times Greizmann fluttered his eyelashes at another club I'd have enough for a sandwich. Is he scared to try for the biggest stage or is he just a tease who uses tactics to get a pay rise as a big fish in a smaller pond?

TitianGerm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Miki came via dortmund as well. Willian, yeah, but he could be an outlier.

I suppose my line here isn't really about Fred, it's caution that could be applied to all signings, no matter where fro..

They also had Texiera who was a very good player but he decided on China for a massive payday.

Shaktar always seem to have a few Brazilian in the squad.

Harry Palmr

They still have Bernard, the Brazilian membership is 7 once Fred goes.

duffman13

Harry Palmr wrote: »

They still have Bernard, the Brazilian membership is 7 once Fred goes.

That's a blast from the past, has he kicked o there? He was supposed to be the big Brazilian thing a couple of years ago

Harry Palmr

In the league started 19 games and scored 6 goals so not too shabby.

MD1990

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Super signing if Utd get it over the line

You watch the Ukrainian league?

He does seem a decent player. Shaktar must be delighted with the fee as well.

Sprinter Sacre

MD1990 wrote: »

You watch the Ukrainian league?

He does seem a decent player. Shaktar must be delighted with the fee as well.

Of all the "______ | WELCOME TO ______ | SKILLS, GOALS, ASSISTS | INSANE TALENT 2017/2018 | DESPACITO REMIX" videos I've seen, Fred has got to be one of if not the greatest midfielder on the planet.

All jokes aside, looks a good player although you'd wonder how suited to United he'll be and if he'll be able to show his worth there given the track record of some recent big money transfers. City seemed to cool their interest overnight which is strange as he'd slot in there very easily and I'm not sure Jorginho is a better fit than Fred to replace Fernandinho.

Mitch Connor

Sprinter Sacre wrote: »

Of all the "______ | WELCOME TO ______ | SKILLS, GOALS, ASSISTS | INSANE TALENT 2017/2018 | DESPACITO REMIX" videos I've seen, Fred has got to be one of if not the greatest midfielder on the planet.

All jokes aside, looks a good player although you'd wonder how suited to United he'll be and if he'll be able to show his worth there given the track record of some recent big money transfers. City seemed to cool their interest overnight which is strange as he'd slot in there very easily and I'm not sure Jorginho is a better fit than Fred to replace Fernandinho.

are they looking to replace Fernandinho (which would require a similar skill set, possibly) or to add a different option for the same position while also keeping Fernandinho, which would make a different type of player a sensible purchase.

I wonder if City wanted a CM in january with Jorginho first choice and Fred second - and with Napoli going for the league they wouldn't sell, so Fred became the target then, and when they couldn't get him (due to CL progression, apparently) they swapped back to Jorginho as the summer target.

As an aside - I watched a YT vid of Fred - to see what he was like. So a bunch ofc nice plays, but so many of his 'awesome' passes left me open-mouthed at the shocking defending - so I'm still not sure!

MD1990

Sprinter Sacre wrote: »

Of all the "______ | WELCOME TO ______ | SKILLS, GOALS, ASSISTS | INSANE TALENT 2017/2018 | DESPACITO REMIX" videos I've seen, Fred has got to be one of if not the greatest midfielder on the planet.

All jokes aside, looks a good player although you'd wonder how suited to United he'll be and if he'll be able to show his worth there given the track record of some recent big money transfers. City seemed to cool their interest overnight which is strange as he'd slot in there very easily and I'm not sure Jorginho is a better fit than Fred to replace Fernandinho.

Not convinced by Jorginho.
Often see him getting destroyed on the counter. Very very slow.

From the little I saw of Fred in the CL he looks a better player. Excellent on the ball & quick.

Think Liverpool & Man Utd are both getting better midfielders than City .

Sprinter Sacre

Mitch Connor wrote: »

are they looking to replace Fernandinho (which would require a similar skill set, possibly) or to add a different option for the same position while also keeping Fernandinho, which would make a different type of player a sensible purchase.

I wonder if City wanted a CM in january with Jorginho first choice and Fred second - and with Napoli going for the league they wouldn't sell, so Fred became the target then, and when they couldn't get him (due to CL progression, apparently) they swapped back to Jorginho as the summer target.

As an aside - I watched a YT vid of Fred - to see what he was like. So a bunch ofc nice plays, but so many of his 'awesome' passes left me open-mouthed at the shocking defending - so I'm still not sure!

Who knows Mitch but you'd assume a like for like as Fernandinho is getting on in years and why fix something if it isn't broke? When Fernandinho is missing City look noticeably more open down the centre and Fernandinho does a great job of filling in a hole in defence when required as well as being able to spray ball. His conversion from attacking minded box to box player when he arrived to fully fledged defensive mid is really quite something.

Jorginho is class and he's a hard worker but he's not as mobile as Fernandinho and he doesn't look to have that defensive bottle either. Fred aside from height is more like Fernandinho with regards to his athleticism and tigerish tracking as well as being able to play ball. Then again look what Pep got out of Busquets and Jorginho would look to be more like that type of player.

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/footballespana_/status/1003605175377055744

#Arsenal expected to pursue a deal for #Sevilla midfielder Steven N'Zonzi, contract contains €40m release clause https://www.football-espana.net/71931/arsenal-pursue-nzonzi-deal-reports …

Agent Coulson

Samuel Umtiti, defender of FC Barcelona:

�� "If Griezmann wants to come, it will be fantastic"

https://twitter.com/lequipe/status/1003610536808992768

Lukker-

Barca's annual tapping up begins. Wonder how long it is before we find out Barca is his ancestral home.

Agent Coulson

Ye as soon as reports appear that he might stay.


Barca players speak up in the press.

Lord TSC

https://twitter.com/PatrickJuillard/status/1003610092359569409

Arsenal being linked with a move for free agent Fellaini.

SeanHarty

Know very little about fred but has had a good few big teams looking at him.

That being said never judge a player from YouTube Google quresma and you'd swear he was the best player that ever lived.

He'll get massive hype around here now though that he's going to united.