Summer Transfer Thread Bonanza (World Cup watch included)

Shanotheslayer

TitianGerm wrote: »

£130-£145 looking at different reports. That's all the Couthino money spent a now.

Did you not buy in January also using some of the Coutinho money? Chamberlain?

TitianGerm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Did you not buy in January also using some of the Coutinho money? Chamberlain?

Ox was bought last summer and VVD before Couthino was sold.

the whole year inn

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Did you not buy in January also using some of the Coutinho money? Chamberlain?

VVD and ox would have spent most of coutinho money I suspect.

Shanotheslayer

TitianGerm wrote: »

Ox was bought last summer and VVD before Couthino was sold.

Jaysus time goes quick. Didn't think Ox was there a full year.

Shanotheslayer

the whole year inn wrote: »

VVD and ox would have spent most of coutinho money I suspect.

I would have thought VVD was signed as they knew Coutinho would be going so was used as part of that money. Just seem to be big spenders this summer pushing for that title push

the whole year inn

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I would have thought VVD was signed as they knew Coutinho would be going so was used as part of that money. Just seem to be big spenders this summer pushing for that title push

Yea both were done in the January transfer market.

TitianGerm

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I would have thought VVD was signed as they knew Coutinho would be going so was used as part of that money. Just seem to be big spenders this summer pushing for that title push

Ox didn't start the season and missed the end of it after hurting his knee.

We had about £100m to spend last summer without sales. Spent £70m ish on Salah, Robertson and Ox. Couldn't get VVD done until January and then Couthino left.

We got £80-90m for getting to the champions league final, back to back top 4 finishes and signed a new deal with Standard Chartered for double the previous amount, meant we had quite a bit to spend this summer.

Here's a list of ins and outs to date (obviously before any Fekir deal) £90 million spent after sales since Klopp came in.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-liverpool/alletransfers/verein/31#subnavi

the whole year inn

TitianGerm wrote: »

Ox didn't start the season and missed the end of it after hurting his knee.

We had about £100m to spend last summer without sales. Spent £70m ish on Salah, Robertson and Ox. Couldn't get VVD done until January and then Couthino left.

We got £80-90m for getting to the champions league final, back to back top 4 finishes and signed a new deal with Standard Chartered for double the previous amount, meant we had quite a bit to spend this summer.

Here's a list of ins and outs to date (obviously before any Fekir deal) £90 million spent after sales since Klopp came in.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-liverpool/alletransfers/verein/31#subnavi

Why did you put that in about ox at the start ,seems strange to wedge that in.

StringerBell

Lukker- wrote: »

So that's the secret!

I may not be articulating what I mean in the best way, but sure look it.

TitianGerm

the whole year inn wrote: »

Why did you put that in about ox at the start ,seems strange to wedge that in.

I'm on mobile and I can't multi quote so I stuck it in at the start to reply to Shanotheslayer first post saying that he didn't realise Ox was there so long.

the whole year inn

TitianGerm wrote: »

I'm on mobile and I can't multi quote so I stuck it in at the start to reply to Shanotheslayer first post saying that he didn't realise Ox was there so long.

Ok

yabadabado

How do lads know what a club had to spend?
Does any club give out that info ,it seems unlikely.

If you have no news at all about transfers but just want to chat about the Liverpool formation, who might play where etc. this is the perfect thread.

the whole year inn

yabadabado wrote: »

How do lads know what a club had to spend?
Does any club give out that info ,it seems unlikely.

Usually a number gets leaked,usually with the term war chest tag along.

pjohnson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you have no news at all about transfers but just want to chat about the Liverpool formation, who might play where etc. this is the perfect thread.

Whats your transfer news so Conor? Have any stories to provide us with? Or just commentate on people pondering where Fekir (a pending transfer) might fit in and how much money Liverpool may have for further transfers?

pjohnson

pjohnson wrote: »

Whats your transfer news so Conor? Have any stories to provide us with? Or just commentate on people pondering where Fekir (a pending transfer) might fit in and how much money Liverpool may have for further transfers?

So people pondering who will play where and when exactly Oxlade Chamberlain was signed is transfer news?

In that case, my news is when did Steve Daley sign for Man City anyway, and will they go 451.

Iused2likebusts

Liverpool are going to have a big spend this summer. Klopp wanted vvd and keita last year. He couldn't get them but waited for the both of them rather than switch targets. Then coutinho was sold in Jan he obviously couldn't get anyone he wanted in Jan and again had waited till now to replace him. This summer you are looking at spending some of last summers budget, the coutinho money and this summers budget. Liverpool have to fill out their squad now aswell. Up till now they didn't have the money and didn't really have the need for a big squad as only now have they got two CL campaigns back to back .

pjohnson

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So people pondering who will play where and when exactly Oxlade Chamberlain was signed is transfer news?

In that case, my news is when did Steve Daley sign for Man City anyway, and will they go 451.

So thats a no new news then and just the usual carry on.

Good to know

pjohnson

pjohnson wrote: »

So thats a no new news then and just the usual carry on.

Good to know

I see you're trying to turn it into a thread about me.

Relax. You can disagree without getting wound up.

You think next season's possible formations are transfer news, I don't, we simply differ.

greendom

Aulas - Lyon President categorically denying that any deal is in place for the transfer of Fekir. Difficult man to deal with.

TitianGerm

https://twitter.com/RMCsport/status/1004998677956579329?s=19

Medical done last night and Liverpool waiting on the results.

MD1990

Deal won't get done for months now I think.

Aulas probably agreed then changed his mind.

greendom

https://twitter.com/OL/status/1005000114262413313

TitianGerm

greendom wrote: »

https://twitter.com/OL/status/1005000114262413313

Did they not do the same before Lacazette signed for Arsenal? Kept saying no deal in place and then Lacazette was an Arsenal player?

Harambe

TitianGerm wrote: »

£130-£145 looking at different reports. That's all the Couthino money spent a now.

Where did you pull that out of? Liverpool have only signed 1 player so far.

TitianGerm

Harambe wrote: »

Where did you pull that out of? Liverpool have only signed 1 player so far.

Kieta and Fabhino.

Harambe

TitianGerm wrote: »

Kieta and Fabhino.

How much did each cost? £70m each by your maths.

Baggly

Harambe wrote: »

How much did each cost? £70m each by your maths.

80 (Keita) +50 (Fabh) iirc.

TitianGerm

Harambe wrote: »

How much did each cost? £70m each by your maths.

No I'm including the proposed Fekir deal as well. Kieta was 50m and Fabihno 45/50m depending who's reporting it.

Harambe

Pter wrote: »

80 (Keita) +50 (Fabh) iirc.

Keita was around £53m and Fabinho was around £43m, why do people pull false numbers out of their arse?

Harambe

TitianGerm wrote: »

No I'm including the proposed Fekir deal as well. Kieta was 50m and Fabihno 45/50m depending who's reporting it.

That makes more sense. Fekir deal is not done yet though.

Baggly

Harambe wrote: »

Keita was around £53m and Fabinho was around £43m, why do people pull false numbers out of their arse?

Apologies i didnt cop the £ on the previous posters numbers. I was quoting €.

Harambe

Pter wrote: »

Apologies i didnt cop the £ on the previous posters numbers. I was quoting €.

Even at that £53m is not €80m. It's more like €60m.

irelandrover

Harambe wrote: »

Even at that £53m is not €80m. It's more like €60m.

€80 million was quoted as the price if the transfer was last summer.

TitianGerm

Harambe wrote: »

That makes more sense. Fekir deal is not done yet though.

Nope not yet but roumored to be in the region of €60m if it does go through.

Baggly

Harambe wrote: »

Even at that £53m is not €80m. It's more like €60m.

I dont want to get into a pernickity fight with you Harambe - chill out. That being said, by todays rate, you are correct. By last years rate, less so.

Also, the £53m that is being quoted is the up front payment and doesnt take into account the other clauses in the deal that also will most likely have to be paid. You are perhaps correct not to include these in the figure as there is a chance they wont be paid, but i choose to take them into account.

You can call it whatever figure you want with whatever exchange rate you want; when we are talking deals of this magnitude, is this really the point? If you want to start dissecting transfer fees to get exact amounts paid, go take a look at the Coutinho deal as well. Guarenteed that is jam packed full of clauses that have inflated that number as well.

Harambe

Not looking to nit pick guys, just saw people are saying Liverpool have spent £140m this transfer window when they clearly haven't.
Liverpool have signed one player this window so far for £43m, that's it. End of argument.

LiamoSail

yabadabado wrote: »

How do lads know what a club had to spend?
Does any club give out that info ,it seems unlikely.

the whole year inn wrote: »

Usually a number gets leaked,usually with the term war chest tag along.

It's all speculation. Clubs don't have a specific budget for transfer fees. They consider salaries alongside transfer fees, spread over the term of the contracts. Liverpool won't consider Keita as costing £50m, they'll consider it as (£50m + value of his contract) divided by the term of his contract. Hence if he's on £10m/yr on a five year deal, the cost will be accounted for as £20m/yr.

To say something like Liverpool are even after selling Coutinho for £120m and buying VVD (70m) and Chamberlin (35m) and Robertson (15m) ignores the fact that combined, VVD,Chamberlin and Robertson cost Liverpool three times what Coutinho did in salary. So they haven't broken even, they've spent considerably and created a deficit.

Similar to Zlatan going to United on a free or Sanchez for just £30m. The papers/fans will say they've spent eff all. In reality, it's a significant spend once salaries are accounted for.

Obviously clubs don't publish salaries, so most are speculation. Also, the average football fan isn't interested in the true calculation or things like ammostisation. So instead, we get terms like war chests etc which may reflect a clubs actual budget, but is simplified to the extreme and likely pulled from no where. Certainly no manager is working off a transfer fee only budget as the papers would have you believe

Baggly

Harambe wrote:

Not looking to nit pick guys, just saw people are saying Liverpool have spent £140m this transfer window when they clearly haven't. Liverpool have signed one player this window so far for £43m, that's it. End of argument.

They have signed two players. So no not the end of the argument. With a 3rd reportedly all but done.

Please don't try and 'end of argument' a discussion. It's just silly.

slingerz

Pter wrote: »

They have signed two players. So no not the end of the argument. With a 3rd reportedly all but done.

Please don't try and 'end of argument' a discussion. It's just silly.

Keita was signed last year. Hes joining on July 1. Fee was dependent on where RB Leipzig finished, reports of £52M seem the most accurate

TitianGerm

Harambe wrote: »

Not looking to nit pick guys, just saw people are saying Liverpool have spent £140m this transfer window when they clearly haven't.
Liverpool have signed one player this window so far for £43m, that's it. End of argument.

We've signed two players. Kieta and Fabhino

Harambe

TitianGerm wrote: »

We've signed two players. Kieta and Fabhino

Keita signed last summer but yes it makes sense to include his price given it wasn't settled until RB Leipzig's season ended. It still doesn't add up to £140m though which was my original point.

yabadabado

Relax lads,unless its coming out of yer pockets!

Harambe

If I see Fekir leaning in Melwood later today I'll happily agree with the lads

pjohnson

Evans joins Leicester for 3.5m paid in 2 installments.

ERG89

pjohnson wrote:

Evans joins Leicester for 3.5m paid in 2 installments.

1 to West Brom and the other to his agent?

slingerz

pjohnson wrote: »

Evans joins Leicester for 3.5m paid in 2 installments.

he's a decent signing for them, surprised more clubs werent after his signature especially at such a knockdown price.

hots

slingerz wrote: »

he's a decent signing for them, surprised more clubs werent after his signature especially at such a knockdown price.

I thought he was older than 30 too, more capable than Huth and should get a few years out of him, solid signing for Leicester.

GavRedKing

slingerz wrote: »

he's a decent signing for them, surprised more clubs werent after his signature especially at such a knockdown price.

If he went to any of the PL top 6 he'd be a bit part player.

Leicester will probably be fighting for 7th-9th this year again and thats probably about his level, Leicetser, Everton or Burnley.

Cantona's Collars

I'm no expert but this looks photoshopped to me.

https://twitter.com/ASRomaEN/status/1005045578861109249