Summer Transfer Thread Bonanza (World Cup watch included)

Shanotheslayer · 06-07-2018 8:06am

If Ronaldo goes to Juve will the United fans stop following Madrid and now support Juve as well? :pac:

irishguitarlad · 06-07-2018 9:49am

All over Spanish news last night and this morning, reckon he is gone. Some move for Juve, It might push them on to win the CL.

MagicIRL · 06-07-2018 9:50am

Any chance of Buffon re-signing too? One last hurrah.

StringerBell · 06-07-2018 10:00am

Ronaldo to Juventus makes a bit better reading legacy terms then Ronaldo to PSG and the French league.

Smart move for him if the option is there tbh.

Could see dybala on the move?

dor83 · 06-07-2018 10:02am

IncognitoMan wrote: »

Surely FFP wouldn't allow that especially with AC Milan getting a ban for breaking the rules recently??

It's a very different situation though, Juve are a well run club who would use one of the Agnelli owned companies like FIAT to give Ronaldo a personal sponsorship to cover the wages that the club can't offer due to FFP. Milan on the other hand is a complete mess, their owner is bankrupt and has loans from a vulture fund that need paying back, in fact they even made a payment that he couldn't and if he doesn't pay it today the Elliott will get control of the club.

As much as I hate the idea on Ronaldo playing for Juve, it will be a great signing for them and the rest of the league would also see a benefit from the increased interest in the league. I bet they are kicking themselves that they sold the TV right recently as this could have worked in their favour to increase the price.

Baggly · 06-07-2018 10:02am

StringerBell wrote: »

Ronaldo to Juventus makes a bit better reading legacy terms then Ronaldo to PSG and the French league.

Smart move for him if the option is there tbh.

Could see dybala on the move?

Id see Higuain being shifted first. Ronaldo will be playing CF i should imagine....Dybala is still very very useful for Juve as a WF.

hots · 06-07-2018 10:05am

Pter wrote: »

Id see Higuain being shifted first. Ronaldo will be playing CF i should imagine....Dybala is still very very useful for Juve as a WF.

Please not us, please not us, please not us.

dor83 · 06-07-2018 10:09am

hots wrote: »

Please not us, please not us, please not us.

Why not? Sarri got the best out of him when he was at Napoli, breaking the all time record for Serie A goals in a season, so he would be able to slot in easily. The way the team plays will change under Sarri and having a player like him who knows exactly how he wants him to play would help.

StringerBell · 06-07-2018 10:15am

Pter wrote: »

Id see Higuain being shifted first. Ronaldo will be playing CF i should imagine....Dybala is still very very useful for Juve as a WF.

I can understand that logically for sure, but apparently himself and the manager don't get on and they play a 352 alot so could see higuain and Ronaldo up front, I think Dybala and Ronaldo as a partnership would be better, Higuain and Ronaldo is not very mobile these days. Even playing dybala in behind the other two in a 3412 system allowing Ronaldo freedom and keeping Higuain and the point man could be excellent.

hots · 06-07-2018 10:18am

dor83 wrote: »

Why not? Sarri got the best out of him when he was at Napoli, breaking the all time record for Serie A goals in a season, so he would be able to slot in easily. The way the team plays will change under Sarri and having a player like him who knows exactly how he wants him to play would help.

Wrong side of 30, physically not great, playing in a slower and less physical league, don't believe he can lead a line on his own, mentally not exactly a leader (last thing we need is two soft, quiet lads up top), hides during games a lot, not exactly shining in the CL or WC (not getting a chance tbf).

He doesn't excel at any one aspect of the game and chelsea need that. He's not a bad player, but I think he'll need a certain type of team to excel.

Baggly · 06-07-2018 10:19am

StringerBell wrote: »

I can understand that logically for sure, but apparently himself and the manager don't get on and they play a 352 alot so could see higuain and Ronaldo up front, I think Dybala and Ronaldo as a partnership would be better, Higuain and Ronaldo is not very mobile these days. Even playing dybala in behind the other two in a 3412 system allowing Ronaldo freedom and keeping Higuain and the point man could be excellent.

Cant see them using 2 €90m+ 30+ CFs myself, but absolutely it could happen. And if they look at recouping their money at all, it would perhaps make sense to move Higuain on rather than Mandzukic?

Mandzukic > Higuain in that target man role, for me. Ronaldo and Higuain would be fulfilling a similar role (they arent necessarily similar players but i could see them being asked to do the same job).

Baggly · 06-07-2018 10:23am

You are right SB - i have a very logical mindset (i think) and that isnt how these things are decided some/most of the time.

Dybala could be unsettled and moved on for sure.

dor83 · 06-07-2018 10:26am

hots wrote: »

Wrong side of 30, physically not great, playing in a slower and less physical league, don't believe he can lead a line on his own, mentally not exactly a leader (last thing we need is two soft, quiet lads up top), hides during games a lot, not exactly shining in the CL or WC (not getting a chance tbf).

He doesn't excel at any one aspect of the game and chelsea need that. He's not a bad player, but I think he'll need a certain type of team to excel.

That's fair, I actually think he is a little over rated myself but he suits Sarri and that will be very important because I think it will take time to change the way the team plays and having a player who just slots in would help. What would you class as a good season this year? I think it will be difficult for Chelsea this season, competing for a top for finish but if Sarri is given time he will improve them a lot more, it's just that to do that in his first season is difficult especially with the 4 who finished ahead of them having stability and building on last year.

hots · 06-07-2018 10:57am

dor83 wrote: »

That's fair, I actually think he is a little over rated myself but he suits Sarri and that will be very important because I think it will take time to change the way the team plays and having a player who just slots in would help. What would you class as a good season this year? I think it will be difficult for Chelsea this season, competing for a top for finish but if Sarri is given time he will improve them a lot more, it's just that to do that in his first season is difficult especially with the 4 who finished ahead of them having stability and building on last year.

Unfortunately I don't think we can hope for more than top 4 and decent cup runs. If Sari comes in it'll be a huge change in style so it'll take time to adapt, and he won't exactly be inheriting an easy squad to fit to it. It'll be a big change just going from a 5atb to a 4. Nevermind a few players looking over the fence at better options...

Gbear · 06-07-2018 11:59am

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Players in the dressing room will not be unhappy with Ronaldo earning more than them. It’s Ronaldo

So long as they keep winning, at any rate.

I'm sure they'd all chip in a tenth of their own wages to pay for him if it got them a CL winners medal.

Baggly · 06-07-2018 12:02pm

Gbear wrote: »

So long as they keep winning, at any rate.

I'm sure they'd all chip in a tenth of their own wages to pay for him if it got them a CL winners medal.

Would you if you were in their position?

Gbear · 06-07-2018 12:19pm

Pter wrote: »

Would you if you were in their position?

In a heartbeat.

Baggly · 06-07-2018 12:21pm

Gbear wrote: »

In a heartbeat.

I can see where you are coming from, but id be putting it to Juve to make the deal happen without touching my wages, if getting him on board and winning the CL was the goal.

Gbear · 06-07-2018 12:40pm

Pter wrote: »

I can see where you are coming from, but id be putting it to Juve to make the deal happen without touching my wages, if getting him on board and winning the CL was the goal.

Well yeah.

That was one of those "I'd drive him to the airport myself" sorts of things. I don't think there's actually a mechanism for having a whip round to pay Ronaldo's wages.

Lukker- · 06-07-2018 1:03pm

Chelsea trying to include Jorginho in a possible deal for Sarri.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlfredoPedulla/status/1015193833020313603

Harry Palmr · 06-07-2018 1:08pm

Thought he was tied up by Man City.

Lukker- · 06-07-2018 1:33pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Thought he was tied up by Man City.

Yeah, that deal has been marinating for over 3 weeks now with no apparent progress.

There was meant to be a breakthrough a while back where Napoli finally agreed a fee for him, but nothing since, which maybe points to other suitors?

He'll probably get announced by City tomorrow..

Baggly · 06-07-2018 2:15pm

Torreira 'all but signed' for Arsenal.

https://www.football365.com/news/torreira-rejects-arsenal-medical-but-deal-still-on

Good signing for Arsenal if it is completed; and a good summer / 12 months for Arsenal transfers imo.

TripleAce · 06-07-2018 3:03pm

StringerBell wrote: »

I can understand that logically for sure, but apparently himself and the manager don't get on and they play a 352 alot so could see higuain and Ronaldo up front, I think Dybala and Ronaldo as a partnership would be better, Higuain and Ronaldo is not very mobile these days. Even playing dybala in behind the other two in a 3412 system allowing Ronaldo freedom and keeping Higuain and the point man could be excellent.

Don't forget Douglas Costa, which should pretty much always be a starter. Ronaldo upfront with Dybala and DC just behind.

LuckyLloyd · 06-07-2018 3:58pm

hots wrote: »

Wrong side of 30, physically not great, playing in a slower and less physical league, don't believe he can lead a line on his own, mentally not exactly a leader (last thing we need is two soft, quiet lads up top), hides during games a lot, not exactly shining in the CL or WC (not getting a chance tbf).

He doesn't excel at any one aspect of the game and chelsea need that. He's not a bad player, but I think he'll need a certain type of team to excel.

Who are you talking about here? Higuain has been great the last two CL campaigns and has been a huge presence for them in key matches.

rob316 · 06-07-2018 4:40pm

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Who are you talking about here? Higuain has been great the last two CL campaigns and has been a huge presence for them in key matches.

He's proven to be a serial bottle job in finals in the past though.

titan18 · 06-07-2018 4:55pm

BeepBeep67 wrote:

Pending Fiat training top sponsorship announcement at â‚¬20M per year

Probably do marketing for Ferrari or something. Would fit in image wise there

ERG89 · 06-07-2018 5:30pm

rob316 wrote: »

He's proven to be a serial bottle job in finals in the past though.

Chelsea won't be near the Champions League final anytime soon, I'm sure he'd do it in an FA or League Cup final if you'd count those as serious finals. Plus they are trying to replace Conte with a manager who himself never won a trophy.

Lukker- · 06-07-2018 5:39pm

ERG89 wrote: »

Chelsea won't be near the Champions League final anytime soon, I'm sure he'd do it in an FA or League Cup final if you'd count those as serious finals. Plus they are trying to replace Conte with a manager who himself never won a trophy.

Or probably just one season..

The cup thing is a straw man. Conte didn’t win a trophy til he managed Juve. Same with Klopp at Dortmund. Jose at Porto. Napoli was the first job he’d be expected to even get close to challenging and pushed Juve to the wire on a shoestring compared to em