Summer Transfer Thread Bonanza (World Cup watch included)

Harry Palmr

Richardlison and Siggy for 100m is eye-watering, that's almost Mane, Salah and Firmino or one Gareth Bale/Ronaldo

Liamalone

yabadabado wrote: »

But isn't everyone overpriced now or does that only matter for some clubs ?

Seems so, not too long ago Oxlaid Chamberlain cost 40m pmsl. All gone crazy unfortunately

rossie1977

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

PL prices were going mad before Neymar moved because of added tv revenue

Pickford had 1 okay season for a relegated Sunderland and Everton signed him for 30m early last summer

Stones could do Cruyff turn as a cb but wasn't a fantastic defender and City signed him for 55m in 2016 with Chelsea putting in many high offers the summer before that

In season 2016-17 Everton generated £131 million through tv revenue, Leicester city £121m plus another £70 million in champions league revenue. When you consider that for the whole of that season Everton raised £14 million through ticket sales and Leicester £16m its not hard to see what is the most important revenue stream for clubs.

~Rebel~

MD1990 wrote: »

Everton really are showing how you don't run a football club.

Sigurdsson 50m
Keane 30m
Tosun 23m
Klaasen 27m
Pickford 30m
Walcott 25m

last 2 not bad signings but overpriced

now Richardlison for 50m

It is complete mismanagement of the transfer market.

Honestly I think most of their signings in isolation were decent. The problem is that they haven't been knitted together into a functioning team. Having Tom Davies as a great young number 10, and then bringing in Rooney, and Sigurdsson, and Klaasen, all who want to occupy the same space on the field.

Think all of Walcott, Tosun and Pickford (for his quick distribution) are good guys to play with one of the above 10's though (aside from Rooney who's obviously already gone). Add Richarlison, and you very quickly have the setup of a team that could do quite well with Silva's style. I would say he's going for 10 million more than he's worth, but hey, if there's anyone you should trust to know what he's capable of and what he adds, its Silva.

----Idrissa Gueye--McCarthy

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Sigurdsson
----Walcott

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Richarlison

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Tosun

That's a very solid midfield and front 6.

Cantona's Collars

Atletico Madrid want Giroud on loan but Chelsea want an option to buy clause in any deal.

rossie1977

Liamalone wrote: »

Seems so, not too long ago Oxlaid Chamberlain cost 40m pmsl. All gone crazy unfortunately

Chamberlain is young, 30+ England caps and scored vital goals for Liverpool last season in big games like twice against City. Fee was £35 million and that's because Chelsea were also bidding.

yabadabado

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Richardlison and Siggy for 100m is eye-watering, that's almost Mane, Salah and Firmino or one Gareth Bale/Ronaldo

But arent all those players you are comparing Sigi and Richardlison to pre Neymer deal ,which is seen as some watershed when discussing what teams are now paying ?

One club signs someone it's overpriced, another club signs a player and it's just the way things are now.

eh i dunno

MD1990 wrote: »

Everton really are showing how you don't run a football club.

Sigurdsson 50m
Keane 30m
Tosun 23m
Klaasen 27m
Pickford 30m
Walcott 25m

last 2 not bad signings but overpriced

now Richardlison for 50m

It is complete mismanagement of the transfer market.

Don't understand why you've added 5m to most of them fees but whatever helps you sleep I guess

Harry Palmr

It's all kicking off

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1020431923917852673

Aleksandr Golovin will join AS Monaco

Kante to PSG (if sales allow)

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1020428931134992384

Benzema to Milan maybe

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1020425752116940806

Turtyturd

Thought Milan were broke?....again.

Standard Italian loan with an option to buy?

TitianGerm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

It's all kicking off

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1020431923917852673



Kante to PSG (if sales allow)

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1020428931134992384

Benzema to Milan maybe

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1020425752116940806

Jesus what's going on at Chelsea? Courtious and Hazard linked to Madrid, Kante to PSG, Willian linked to Barca.

If they lose those four they'd struggle to get Europa League.

Trigger

Turtyturd wrote: »

Thought Milan were broke?....again.

Standard Italian loan with an option to buy?

Well i saw the CAS founded for them against the FFP sanctions so that could have freed up something, i know that they are allowed play in Europe in the coming season so that means projected income so they could be using that as collatoral

Richarlison - 50m for an attacker with no goals or assists in his last 23 games.

Solid buy from Everton.

martyos121

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Richarlison - 50m for an attacker with no goals or assists in his last 23 games.

Solid buy from Everton.

https://twitter.com/MirrorDarren/status/1020376959946297345?s=20

Makes a lot more sense now.

thebaz

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Richarlison - 50m for an attacker with no goals or assists in his last 23 games.

Solid buy from Everton.

its 50 million with add-ons - then again Alisson is hardly worth 60 million - the whole thing is just mad - James McClean for 5 mill seams decent value

marklazarcovic

I think he has great potential ,but 50 mill is insane when he ain't had one great season yet,

Alisson is Brazil's no1 , this kid is nowhere near the Brazil squad.

eh i dunno

It's 35m. Mad money but Liverpool spent nearly double that on a keeper with one good season behind him who they knocked 7 goals past in two games.

It reminds me of the Andy Carroll signing Liverpool made a few years ago. Panic buying. Even Carroll had better form though when signed. Huge gamble by Everton. I'm assuming it's a good chunk of their budget.

yabadabado

RoboKlopp wrote: »

It reminds me of the Andy Carroll signing Liverpool made a few years ago. Panic buying. Even Carroll had better form though when signed. Huge gamble by Everton. I'm assuming it's a good chunk of their budget.

Silva probably thinks he can get him back to his best,he was very good when the two of them were at Watford.
I dont think it's a panic buy but is a gamble .

razorblunt

MD1990 wrote: »

Everton really are showing how you don't run a football club.

Sigurdsson 50m
Keane 30m
Tosun 23m
Klaasen 27m
Pickford 30m
Walcott 25m

last 2 not bad signings but overpriced

now Richardlison for 50m

It is complete mismanagement of the transfer market.

Klaasen was cast aside by Big Sam, came back into the squad at the end of the season, I thought he looked decent earlier on in the season but with Rooney there any pace was negated. I'd like to see him get a consistent run.

Tosun has only been there since January and has settled pretty well in fairness to him. 23m might not be bad at all for him

yabadabado

razorblunt wrote: »

Klaasen was cast aside by Big Sam, came back into the squad at the end of the season, I thought he looked decent earlier on in the season but with Rooney there any pace was negated. I'd like to see him get a consistent run.

Tosun has only been there since January and has settled pretty well in fairness to him. 23m might not be bad at all for him

Don't be talking sense ,it doesn't help the OP having a dig at Everton.

Paully D

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Richarlison - 50m for an attacker with no goals or assists in his last 23 games.

Solid buy from Everton.

I watched Richarlison a lot more than I would care to admit last season as a result of Fantasy Premier League.

I’d urge caution on writing him off based on the no goals and assists thing. Every time I saw him he was still getting into great positions and his underlying stats were continually very good. He was extremely unlucky a large number of times with superb saves from goalkeepers and teammates missing excellent chances he provided.

I think he wil end up doing very well there.

Corholio

Richarlison is a very decent player and a bit unlucky with the way the stats portray him, but he's not a £50m player. The more these high fees get explained away by 'it's the market etc' the more the ridiculous will become the norm.

rob316

eh i dunno wrote: »

It's 35m. Mad money but Liverpool spent nearly double that on a keeper with one good season behind him who they knocked 7 goals past in two games.

And they put 9 past ederson. Does that make him a dodgy keeper now?

yabadabado

rob316 wrote: »

And they put 9 past ederson. Does that make him a dodgy keeper now?

9 isn't bad when you consider he was only half the price :pac:

Potential Underachiever

Be nice if there was some actual transfer news, not this petty 'we don't sign bad players like you' argument going on, which I appreciate was started by Liverpool fans.

BullBlackNova

It's strange how little activity there has been since the World Cup. I understand that a lot of players are still on their break but there's only a few weeks left for Premier League sides to get their stuff in order and there's 5/6 teams who need quite a considerable injection of talent and numbers.

Liverpool, Arsenal and West Ham all went and did a lot of their business quite early but that's not the case for quite a few other sides. Brighton, Huddersfield, Leicester, Watford and Southampton have all done a bit too but you would expect a lot more movement from Bournemouth, Palace, Everton, Chelsea and Spurs anyway.

Anyway, speculation on my part here but Danny Ings isn't in Liverpools squad for the US pre season tour. Would expect his Southampton move to be completed very soon as such.

Laois_Man

MD1990 wrote: »

Everton really are showing how you don't run a football club.

Sigurdsson 50m
Keane 30m
Tosun 23m
Klaasen 27m
Pickford 30m
Walcott 25m

last 2 not bad signings but overpriced

now Richardlison for 50m

It is complete mismanagement of the transfer market.

Not a single one of the figures in that list is accurate!

Sigurdsson 43m
Keane 25m (possibly rising to 30m)
Tosun 27m
Klaasen 23.6m
Pickford 25m (possibly rising to 30m)
Walcott 20m

now Richardlison for 35m, possibly rising to near 50m

As an Everton supporter, I'd only want 2 refunded!

TitianGerm

Laois_Man wrote: »

Not a single one of the figures in that list is accurate!

Sigurdsson 43m
Keane 25m (possibly rising to 30m)
Tosun 27m
Klaasen 23.6m
Pickford 25m (possibly rising to 30m)
Walcott 20m

now Richardlison for 35m, possibly rising to near 50m

As an Everton supporter, I'd only want 2 refunded!

Are your fees in £? If so it looks like MD has shown €

Laois_Man

TitianGerm wrote: »

Are your fees in £? If so it looks like MD has shown €

Yes mine were in £
If converted to €, MD is still close to 30m off cumulatively over the 7 transfers on the list

POKERKING

BullBlackNova wrote: »

It's strange how little activity there has been since the World Cup. I understand that a lot of players are still on their break but there's only a few weeks left for Premier League sides to get their stuff in order and there's 5/6 teams who need quite a considerable injection of talent and numbers.

Liverpool, Arsenal and West Ham all went and did a lot of their business quite early but that's not the case for quite a few other sides. Brighton, Huddersfield, Leicester, Watford and Southampton have all done a bit too but you would expect a lot more movement from Bournemouth, Palace, Everton, Chelsea and Spurs anyway.

Anyway, speculation on my part here but Danny Ings isn't in Liverpools squad for the US pre season tour. Would expect his Southampton move to be completed very soon as such.

Check out fulhams squad they be lucky to fill a tewm!! Lots of work to do for everyone...

Iused2likebusts

Burnley still struggling to sign players . Could be a very tough year for them especially if they make the EL group stages.

BullBlackNova

Going to be really interesting to see how Burnley handle the extra games actually. Part of their strength last season was in having such a close-knit group that started together in most games. Europe means more games which means rotation will be necessary so you'd wonder will that impact their form.

Dyche maintains he's unfazed by the lack of activity but there are reports of moves for Craig Dawson, Jay Rodriguez, Alfie Mawson and Sam Clucas (all linked by Sky at least) so there's likely to be some interest in adding something to the squad.

Keeping the likes of Pope, Tarkowski and Defour should be the priority but unless they add least one or two players, I'd imagine they'll struggle. I wonder are they waiting until after the Europa qualifier to see if they'll need it? I mean, lose to Aberdeen and the current squad can probably handle the rigours of the season and aim for the top half again. Beat them and it's a different story.

MD1990

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Be nice if there was some actual transfer news, not this petty 'we don't sign bad players like you' argument going on, which I appreciate was started by Liverpool fans.

Who said they were bad?

Richardlison is a good player. But Everton are paying about 25m too much. Very poor way to run a football club.
They bought players with no pace last summer 3 AM's.

As a result they have been unable to buy many players his summer as they need to get rid of deadwood first.

Tosun is another decent player but again another player with no pace.

They still have Sandro,Niasse,Bolasie all in the squad who may have no future.

They are also selling Lookman to Leipzig. Better player than Calvert Lewin.

BullBlackNova

Selling Ademola Lookman would be a strange one. He looks like a very talented footballer.

Everton do need to cut a few players from the squad for sure. I feel like they have the basis of a very good side but you can easily pick out 4/5 players who could go and it wouldn't make a bit of difference to the rest of the squad. Mirallas, Martina, Sandro, Klassen, Besic, McCarthy... Hard to see many of those making an impact.

Potential Underachiever

MD1990 wrote: »

Who said they were bad?

Richardlison is a good player. But Everton are paying about 25m too much. Very poor way to run a football club.
They bought players with no pace last summer 3 AM's.

As a result they have been unable to buy many players his summer as they need to get rid of deadwood first.

Tosun is another decent player but again another player with no pace.

They still have Sandro,Niasse,Bolasie all in the squad who may have no future.

They are also selling Lookman to Leipzig. Better player than Calvert Lewin.

Liverpool and every other club has well over paid for plenty of players too, it's normal. This time next year we could be talking about wasting millions on Fabinho or Alisson you never know.

yabadabado

MD1990 wrote: »

Who said they were bad?

Richardlison is a good player. But Everton are paying about 25m too much. Very poor way to run a football club.
They bought players with no pace last summer 3 AM's.

As a result they have been unable to buy many players his summer as they need to get rid of deadwood first.

Tosun is another decent player but again another player with no pace.

They still have Sandro,Niasse,Bolasie all in the squad who may have no future.

They are also selling Lookman to Leipzig. Better player than Calvert Lewin.

Pure bull**** ,for some clubs it's overpaying and for others it's just the way of the world.

The double standards here is brutal and looks to be purely for some sort of one upmanship

Utopia Parkway

Over paying on proven quality is one thing but over paying on potential is another. I think Richardlison is still at the "potential" stage of his career but who knows if he develops right that 50M might seem perfectly reasonable in a few years.

If it's true I'm surprised Everton are selling Lookman though. Always been impressed with him even in the brief chances he got at Everton before going to Leipzig.

Agent Coulson

£40/50m is just the new £15/20m.

In 3 or 4 seasons £75/100m will be the norm for players until the tv bubble goes bust and that won't happen for a while when the streaming big boys join in.


Amazon are just testing the waters now.


Wait till Amazon or Facebook or Google actually buy a club and pump money into it.

MD1990

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Liverpool and every other club has well over paid for plenty of players too, it's normal. This time next year we could be talking about wasting millions on Fabinho or Alisson you never know.

yabadabado wrote: »

Pure bull**** ,for some clubs it's overpaying and for others it's just the way of the world.

The double standards here is brutal and looks to be purely for some sort of one upmanship

Of course many clubs are overpaying.

But I prefer overpaying for a proven CL players like Alisson & Brazil's #1 above Ederson.

Than overpay for a talented player like Ricardlison who has not scored in 23 games.

If anything it was a good time to target him while he was off form but looks like the previous Silva saga back before Sam was appointed(another mistake by the club) has cost the club about 20m.

Speaks for itself that Everton are being run very poorly but under Silva they should improve next season.

StringerBell

Proven is a little bit of a stretch when it comes to the goalkeeper tbf.

Hes only really established himself in the Roma team only getting the chance as szezeney left for Juventus. Only made his serie A debut last year if I'm not mistaken. So he's had a year of being Roma number 1, hardly proven

Bad player to use an example given he just has the one season.

MD1990

31 caps for Brazil.

3 league titles with Internactional

Best keeper in CL last season. That is pretty proven to me.

StringerBell

MD1990 wrote: »

31 caps for Brazil.

3 league titles with Internactional

Best keeper in CL last season. That is pretty proven to me.

Always good to know where the bar is I suppose.

yabadabado

MD1990 wrote: »

31 caps for Brazil.

3 league titles with Internactional

Best keeper in CL last season. That is pretty proven to me.

Proven player bar is set fairly low I see.
Sub keeper in 2 out of the 3 years.

You really could have used a better example.
He has had one season as first choice in a major league.To me he has shown massive potential but aint proven yet.

Agent Coulson

What was the bar for the previous World Record price for a keeper in Ederson one season in a second rate league and 1 international cap which he got after his record move and hasn't been able to displace the new record holder in the international team.

TitianGerm

yabadabado wrote: »

Proven player bar is set fairly low I see.
Sub keeper in 2 out of the 3 years.

You really could have used a better example.
He has had one season as first choice in a major league.To me he has shown massive potential but aint proven yet.

He's only been at Roma two seasons? And Szcchney (can't spell that) was superb the year he joined so he was never going to replace him.

SeanHarty

Agent Coulson wrote: »

What was the bar for the previous World Record price for a keeper in Ederson one season in a second rate league and 1 international cap.

When ederson signed he wasn't considered one of the best though? He also went for half the price.

He's gone on to prove himself to be worth the money, personally I hope Allison does as well but he's far from proven only having one good season.

Paully D

The Richarlison deal is “only” £35m potentially rising to £50m. Many of those clauses will probably never be met. We’ll never know anyway, but I’d be astonished if Everton ever ended up parting with the full £50m. £40m-ish would be far more likely.

These “rising to” fees are a nice way for clubs to keep fans happy. Watford and fans having a go get to say it’s £50m and lose the run of themselves a bit over the fee.

The truth, as always, is closer to somewhere in the middle.

yabadabado

TitianGerm wrote: »

He's only been at Roma two seasons? And Szcchney (can't spell that) was superb the year he joined so he was never going to replace him.

I think you are agreeing with the point I was making.

Agent Coulson

SeanHarty wrote: »

When ederson signed he wasn't considered one of the best though? He also went for half the price.

He's gone on to prove himself to be worth the money, personally I hope Allison does as well but he's far from proven only having one good season.

Lol only half the price and it was a mind blowing transfer fee for a keeper at the time.

Of course he was rated otherwise there wouldn't have been a world record price paid for him.

Also the highlighted part does one season now really prove it what if the next 5 years are sh1t?

Surely that can only be judged at the end of his contract.



I think Alisson will be a success at Liverpool. Is *£56m a crazy price to pay for any player yes it is however this is the modern day transfer market.


*£56m is the price Liverpool are paying the rest is add-ons just like Richarlison isn't going for £50m he is going for £35m and add-ons.