Summer Transfer Thread Bonanza (World Cup watch included)

gstack166

Lukker- wrote: »

Chelsea would have had to pay the €7m release clause for Sarri anyways. So you can deduct that sum from the figure outright.

We don't know how the deal is structured incentive wise either. And certainly the idea that City was choice between the two, isn't supported by the brief that City themselves pushed, which was they only want players who want to play for City.

As far as I know (what I’ve read) is that Napoli weren’t entitled to compensation as they parted ways & appointed a new number, but that’s neither here nor there. City also briefed the press that Jorginho was forced into the move to Chelsea didn’t they? Either way, he’s at Chelsea end of. Best of luck to him, as a City fan I’m very much looking forward to watching him.

MD1990

Man Utd want Maguire according to Sky

He was only ok last year but he is overated after some good WC performances. He is going to cost huge money too.

SlickRic

MD1990 wrote: »

Man Utd want Maguire according to Sky

He was only ok last year but he is overated after some good WC performances. He is going to cost huge money too.

i can see what Mourinho likes in him. he's a good front post defender. he heads the ball well, and has a bit of John Terry about him in terms of all that, as well as his sheer size.

the thing is, he's not the leader JT was.
he doesn't have the presence.
he doesn't have the passing ability.
plus he turns like an oil tanker.

immensely overrated after the World Cup.

there are far better defenders out there, but Utd have obviously been struggling to land their targets this summer, for whatever reason. whether that's Mourinho, Woodward or something else. Maguire might be seen as someone gettable, who can improve, and is better than most of the CBs they currently have.

Skylinehead

SlickRic wrote: »

i can see what Mourinho likes in him. he's a good front post defender. he heads the ball well, and has a bit of John Terry about him in terms of all that, as well as his sheer size.

the thing is, he's not the leader JT was.
he doesn't have the presence.
he doesn't have the passing ability.
plus he turns like an oil tanker.

immensely overrated after the World Cup.

there are far better defenders out there, but Utd have obviously been struggling to land their targets this summer, for whatever reason. whether that's Mourinho, Woodward or something else. Maguire might be seen as someone gettable, who can improve, and is better than most of the CBs they currently have.

His passing is actually quite good, surprisingly so. You're right in that it wouldn't be at Terrys level of course.

TitianGerm

MD1990 wrote: »

Man Utd want Maguire according to Sky

He was only ok last year but he is overated after some good WC performances. He is going to cost huge money too.

Apparently £60m is the figure.

GavRedKing

MD1990 wrote: »

Man Utd want Maguire according to Sky

He was only ok last year but he is overated after some good WC performances. He is going to cost huge money too.

Maguire was always going to be linked with a move after the WC, however, any top 6 side willing to spend money him would need their heads examined.

Watch him join Chelsea on deadline day for 50m.

Lucas Hood

I don't think he's much of an improvement on Phil Jones,
if even any improvement.

Leicester should sell him though for the money reported, especially after getting Evans for 3m was it ?

Liamalone

70m for Maguire is a bit steep.

batistuta9

newcastle have signed fabian schar for 3m

for nothing really, could see him being sold for 10x that if he has a good season

StringerBell

To say I would be amazed if united went for Maguire would be an understatement.

rob316

Makes Van Dijk look a bargain. Even with the English tax thats huge money, but that's the market.
Did he really have a great World Cup? Given the opposition England faced I wouldn't be using the WC as a barometer.

BullBlackNova

Does Maguire really make that much of an improvement to United's CB situation?

Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Lindelof and Rojo are there already. Few injury problems for sure but given the prices quoted for Maguire, would they not be better off just throwing a bucketload of cash at someone who is a clear improvement? Say, Boateng (linked to PSG this week), Varane, Alderweireld, Koulibaly or Manolas?

I'm just not sure Maguire is that much better than any of the current CBs at United other than, potentially, his fitness.

Necro

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Does Maguire really make that much of an improvement to United's CB situation?

Smalling, Jones, Bailly, Lindelof and Rojo are there already. Few injury problems for sure but given the prices quoted for Maguire, would they not be better off just throwing a bucketload of cash at someone who is a clear improvement? Say, Boateng (linked to PSG this week), Varane, Alderweireld, Koulibaly or Manolas?

I'm just not sure Maguire is that much better than any of the current CBs at United other than, potentially, his fitness.

Meh, the bolded above can't either make the England squad (Smalling) the England starting 11 (Jones) or are seemingly not trusted by Jose (Lindelof & Rojo). Given Bailly's injuries I think it kind of make sense.

Price is crazy but that's the market.

Really don't understand some folks rather un-natural attachment to Smalling or Jones.
They really aren't Utd calibre ala Vidic, Rio, Pallister, Bruce.

I seem to recall Utd paying at the time obscene money for a certain Rio Ferdinand who would go on to be a lynchpin in their central defence for years.

I'm not suggesting or comparing Maguire to Rio, they are very different players - but I think he's a huge upgrade on the abject mediocrity of the other options, perhaps Lindelof aside if he's ever even trusted (Who was also signed for big money.

Though I will miss the opportunities for Jones gifs :P

SlickRic

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Does Maguire really make that much of an improvement to United's CB situation?

He's an improvement on Jones and Rojo, and probably Smalling.

just not enough of one to warrant the outlay IMO.

as StringerBell says, I'd be shocked if Utd actually go after him properly. it would only be if Mourinho and Woodward decide they have to get somebody.

BullBlackNova

Necrominus wrote: »

Meh, the bolded above can't either make the England squad (Smalling) the England starting 11 (Jones) or are seemingly not trusted by Jose (Lindelof & Rojo). Given Bailly's injuries I think it kind of make sense.

Price is crazy but that's the market.

Really don't understand some folks rather un-natural attachment to Smalling or Jones.
They really aren't Utd calibre ala Vidic, Rio, Pallister, Bruce.

I seem to recall Utd paying at the time obscene money for a certain Rio Ferdinand who would go on to be a lynchpin in their central defence for years.

I'm not suggesting or comparing Maguire to Rio, they are very different players - but I think he's a huge upgrade on the abject mediocrity of the other options, perhaps Lindelof aside if he's ever even trusted (Who was also signed for big money.

Though I will miss the opportunities for Jones gifs :P

I have no particular attachment to any of United's defenders but I just don't see what Maguire offers that the rest don't. He's a good defender playing in a good side but I don't think he elevates the current United defence to another level.

The market is volatile, prices are high but that doesn't mean you can't still get the right players. The ones I mentioned - Boateng, Alderweireld, Koulibaly, for e.g. - might all cost slightly more than Maguire but, I would suggest that they are worth the extra for what they would bring.

As a Liverpool fan, I've seen years of poor defensive signings. I am much happier than Liverpool held off and spent big on Van Dijk in the winter rather than signing, say, De Vrij last summer as many (myself included!) called for at the time.

SlickRic wrote: »

He's an improvement on Jones and Rojo, and probably Smalling.

just not enough of one to warrant the outlay IMO.

as StringerBell says, I'd be shocked if Utd actually go after him properly. it would only be if Mourinho and Woodward decide they have to get somebody.

That's my thinking really. He's good but is he worth throwing that much cash at? Not for me.

Spend a little more and get it right or continue as it is.

Harry Palmr

Newcastle signing Japanese international Muto from Mainz.

GavRedKing

If Utd wanted a limited English CB theres a fella at Chelsea who they can have for free.

Baggly

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Newcastle signing Japanese international Muto from Mainz.

Some player.

Agent Coulson

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Newcastle signing Japanese international Muto from Mainz.

The Great Mutao

TitianGerm

GavRedKing wrote: »

If Utd wanted a limited English CB theres a fella at Chelsea who they can have for free.

Your doing your best to ship players out this summer. I'd say you'd drive Willian and Cahill to Old Trafford yourself at this stage :pac:

gimli2112

GavRedKing wrote: »

If Utd wanted a limited English CB theres a fella at Chelsea who they can have for free.

there's one at City too. I just hope they'd make a decision 'cos I can't move on my fantasy football team until they do.

GavRedKing

TitianGerm wrote: »

Your doing your best to ship players out this summer. I'd say you'd drive Willian and Cahill to Old Trafford yourself at this stage :pac:

Special offer, buy Willian for 50m get Cahill free, petrol money included. :P

Trigger

Thought it was obvious that Green was a HG quota signing. Media probably trying to make something from nothing

https://twitter.com/matthughestimes/status/1022739741450616832?s=21

GavRedKing

astradave wrote: »

Thought it was obvious that Green was a HG quota signing. Media probably trying to make something from nothing

https://twitter.com/matthughestimes/status/1022739741450616832?s=21

Last year Eduardo was 3rd choice and didnt play at all, now it means if we have to, we can add another non-HG player to the squad.

If Green plays this year it will be due to injury to the 2 GKs ahead of him.

What would be worrying as a Chelsea fan is if Courtois goes and no 1st choice GK is signed, pushing Caballero to #1 and Greeen #2, that would be a nightmare scenario. :pac:

Trigger

GavRedKing wrote: »

Last year Eduardo was 3rd choice and didnt play at all, now it means if we have to, we can add another non-HG player to the squad.

If Green plays this year it will be due to injury to the 2 GKs ahead of him.

What would be worrying as a Chelsea fan is if Courtois goes and no 1st choice GK is signed, pushing Caballero to #1 and Greeen #2, that would be a nightmare scenario. :pac:

For ye yeah, for non chelsea fans it would be hilarious:D we live in hope

GavRedKing

astradave wrote: »

For ye yeah, for non chelsea fans it would be hilarious:D we live in hope

I'd nearly feel safer with Green on goal.

Whats even funnier is that Hilario is one of the GK coaches at the club too.

Blind, leading the blind. :pac:

al87987

Think those of you sleeping on Maguire are mad, I've been banging the Maguire drum for a few years now.

He's been a pro for 7 years and won player of the year at whatever club he's been at in 5 of them.

He was ready to play for a top 6 team last year but Leicester were the only ones awake and look like they might make 50 million on a 1 year player.

He's big, strong and in the age of VAR practically unstoppable in the opposition box. Wish Arsenal would buy him.

Cantona's Collars

astradave wrote: »

For ye yeah, for non chelsea fans it would be hilarious:D we live in hope

Plus it's nice to see Chelsea continue on from where they left off last year, signing players without any input from the manager.

hots

al87987 wrote: »

Think those of you sleeping on Maguire are mad, I've been banging the Maguire drum for a few years now.

He's been a pro for 7 years and won player of the year at whatever club he's been at in 5 of them.

He was ready to play for a top 6 team last year but Leicester were the only ones awake and look like they might make 50 million on a 1 year player.

He's big, strong and in the age of VAR practically unstoppable in the opposition box. Wish Arsenal would buy him.

He's a good old fashioned defender imo but if he is playing CL football he'll get passed around like a traffic cone by better players/teams playing decent ball. Reminds me of Shawcross at his peak hype. Wouldn't argue with his strength in the air at set pieces though.

hots

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Plus it's nice to see Chelsea continue on from where they left off last year, signing players without any input from the manager.

I doubt Sarri will lose too much sleep over getting a foreign player spot back and a strange face carrying out the balls to warm up Courtois.

GavRedKing

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Plus it's nice to see Chelsea continue on from where they left off last year, signing players without any input from the manager.

Last year? You're about 15 years too late with that stick I'm afraid.

Thats part of the reason ye're stuck with Mourinho.

Trigger

https://twitter.com/werderbremen_en/status/1022765747548958720?s=21

Baggly

Bought last year for approx £24m. Sold for approx £12m.

7 PL appearances totaling 249 minutes.

Dickerty

Pter wrote: »

Bought last year for approx £24m. Sold for approx £12m.

7 PL appearances totaling 249 minutes.

He was a good player arriving, badly managed by a club that's consistently been badly managed since Moyes left!

pjohnson

GavRedKing wrote: »

I'd nearly feel safer with Green on goal.

Whats even funnier is that Hilario is one of the GK coaches at the club too.

Blind, leading the blind. :pac:

So Hilario would be 3rd choice if Willy and Green get struck down :pac:

pjohnson

Carl Ikeme has retired after medical advice.

Trigger

pjohnson wrote: »

So Hilario would be 3rd choice if Willy and Green get struck down :pac:

Hilarious

GavRedKing

Golovin confirmed to Monaco.

At one stage looked like a done deal to Chelsea then for a few weeks it went cold.

Would have been interesting having him in a midfield 3 with Kante and Jorginho.

BullBlackNova

Have only seen Golovin at the World Cup so would have liked to get another look at him.

In other news, Besiktas have enquired about Simon Mignolet and Olympiakos for Lazar Markovic, so they should be on the way out of Liverpool soon.

And Bournemouth target Jefferson Lerma put in a transfer request at Levante (or was it Leganes?) after a reported bid of 22.2m was rejected. If that goes through, he'd be their record signing and would follow Diego Rico (left back) and David Brooks (attacking midfield) in this summer. Sky reporting that Rico turned down an approach from Dortmund to join Bournemouth too.

Corholio

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Have only seen Golovin at the World Cup so would have liked to get another look at him.

In other news, Besiktas have enquired about Simon Mignolet and Olympiakos for Lazar Markovic, so they should be on the way out of Liverpool soon.

And Bournemouth target Jefferson Lerma put in a transfer request at Levante (or was it Leganes?) after a reported bid of 22.2m was rejected. If that goes through, he'd be their record signing and would follow Diego Rico (left back) and David Brooks (attacking midfield) in this summer. Sky reporting that Rico turned down an approach from Dortmund to join Bournemouth too.

Brooks is a signing that sort of went under the radar earlier in the summer. I think he will be a very good signing for Bournemouth, really nice left foot.

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/SkySports_Keith/status/1022920793649553413

Japanese international Muto joins Newcastle, subject to work permit.

rob316

Chelsea want Pickford to replace courtois. Can't see everton selling but if they do, Alisson won't be the most expensive keeper for long.

SureYWouldntYa

rob316 wrote: »

Chelsea want Pickford to replace courtois. Can't see everton selling but if they do, Alisson won't be the most expensive keeper for long.

Don't believe that tbh, nowhere reputable reporting it

Sky do seem to report a lot of these from their "sources" that make sense in ways, a bit like a Willian-Martial swap, while also taking bets on their next club over on SkyBet as well like the crooks they are

Chancer3001

Chelsea will sign butland.

Isn't he championship at the moment ??

SureYWouldntYa

I'd give Butland the year to attempt to make the step up, hopefully even we make CL and even if he doesn't turn into a top keeper there could be a few more options on the market next year

He's worth a year imo

Harry Palmr

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Chelsea will sign butland.

Isn't he championship at the moment ??

Well he plays for Everton so not far off. Hang on that's Pickford isn't it? Or Pope. So many average English keeper around these days.

Chancer3001

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Well he plays for Everton so not far off. Hang on that's Pickford isn't it? Or Pope. So many average English keeper around these days.

Whichever one the stoke one is haha

eagle eye

Pickford is well above average.

gimli2112

I think Pickford is the real deal, you could see the intensity at the WC. If he joins someone like Chelsea I think he'd shine

yabadabado

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Don't believe that tbh, nowhere reputable reporting it

Sky do seem to report a lot of these from their "sources" that make sense in ways, a bit like a Willian-Martial swap, while also taking bets on their next club over on SkyBet as well like the crooks they are

Sky PLC don't own SkyBet.