Summer Transfer Thread Bonanza (World Cup watch included)

TitianGerm

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Imo he would bring composure, leadership and command to the United back line, which we have none of. That's why I want United to sign him. Its not so much the physical attributes, its the mental ones.

He's a very good signing for ye. I assume he plays beside Bailey unless your going 3 at the back and he plays with Lindof and Bailey?

Adamcp898

MD1990 wrote: »

Alderweirald is slow. He can get away with it due to his reading of the game.

Not that dominant in the air as well. Good player but VVD far superior & more dominant .

Atletico discarded him after one season too.

Don't get me wrong still a good signing for whoever gets him but the best CB in the PL not for me.

What?

gimli2112

As a Liverpool fan who has Alderweirld in his FF team, I'm seriously conflicted. It would help both me and Utd.

MD1990

Adamcp898 wrote: »

What?

Shane Long destroyed him a few years back at WHL.

yabadabado

MD1990 wrote: »

Shane Long destroyed him a few years back at WHL.

Case closed

Giggsy11

MD1990 wrote: »

Shane Long destroyed him a few years back at WHL.

Wow, shane long destroyed someone with pace, then VVD is also slow as Sane destroyed him few days back with his pace.

yabadabado

MD1990 wrote: »

Alderweirald is slow. He can get away with it due to his reading of the game.

Not that dominant in the air as well. Good player but VVD far superior & more dominant .

Atletico discarded him after one season too.

Don't get me wrong still a good signing for whoever gets him but the best CB in the PL not for me.

You probably need ro take off those red tinted glasses .VDV far superior on what basis do you judge that ?

He left Atletico after one season ,he only started 10 league games for them as he couldn't break up the Godin/Miranda partnership. No shame in that Iirc Atletico had the best defensive record in La Liga that season by a considerable distance .

Corholio

MD1990 wrote: »

Alderweirald is slow. He can get away with it due to his reading of the game.

Not that dominant in the air as well. Good player but VVD far superior & more dominant .

Atletico discarded him after one season too.

Don't get me wrong still a good signing for whoever gets him but the best CB in the PL not for me.

Atletico played him out of position at right back for most of his time there. Terrible misuse of him by them.

He'd be a great signing for any team.

Adamcp898

MD1990 wrote: »

Shane Long destroyed him a few years back at WHL.

Ooooooooooooook.

ERG89

yabadabado wrote:

Alderweireld is a better centre back than all those mentioned. He is world class and whoever signs him will be improving the team straight away. He walks into any team in EPL.

I'd be wary of saying he's world class. Being one of the better centre backs at PL level is a lower level than it is in all of Europe.
If he was world class he'd have went somewhere significant before he was 29 or he'd have stayed at Atletico.

theoneeyedman

ERG89 wrote: »

I'd be wary of saying he's world class. Being one of the better centre backs at PL level is a lower level than it is in all of Europe.
If he was world class he'd have went somewhere significant before he was 29 or he'd have stayed at Atletico.

Or indeed, if he was the best defender in the EPL, Spurs would not have frozen him out for so long last year. They simply wouldn't have been able to afford to, notwithstanding the contract dispute. A good defender no doubt, but as good as some are describing him, I don't think so.

yabadabado

ERG89 wrote: »

I'd be wary of saying he's world class. Being one of the better centre backs at PL level is a lower level than it is in all of Europe.
If he was world class he'd have went somewhere significant before he was 29 or he'd have stayed at Atletico.

I'd have him up there with the best in the EPL
He's up there with the best around any club in Europe imo.Not many clubs where he wouldn't be a regular starter,Real being the standout but you could make a case for him at most top clubs.

Drumpot

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Or indeed, if he was the best defender in the EPL, Spurs would not have frozen him out for so long last year. They simply wouldn't have been able to afford to, notwithstanding the contract dispute. A good defender no doubt, but as good as some are describing him, I don't think so.

A friend of mine who is a staunch spurs fan thinks Alderweirald the best in the league. He also thinks that as soon as he fell out with the manager he was finished at the club. Poch runs a very tight ship and supposedly doesn’t forgive once you fall out with him.

adox

ERG89 wrote: »

I'd be wary of saying he's world class. Being one of the better centre backs at PL level is a lower level than it is in all of Europe.
If he was world class he'd have went somewhere significant before he was 29 or he'd have stayed at Atletico.

There’s a touch of whataboutery in this post.

Lucas Hood

ERG89 wrote: »

I'd be wary of saying he's world class. Being one of the better centre backs at PL level is a lower level than it is in all of Europe.
If he was world class he'd have went somewhere significant before he was 29 or he'd have stayed at Atletico.

Can you not be world class at Spurs?

Kane must be there or thereabouts.

Mitch Connor

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Or indeed, if he was the best defender in the EPL, Spurs would not have frozen him out for so long last year. They simply wouldn't have been able to afford to, notwithstanding the contract dispute. A good defender no doubt, but as good as some are describing him, I don't think so.

Rose and walker have got similar treatment when not commitung to a new contract.

Blazer

MD1990 wrote: »

Alderweirald is slow. He can get away with it due to his reading of the game.

Not that dominant in the air as well. Good player but VVD far superior & more dominant .

Atletico discarded him after one season too.

Don't get me wrong still a good signing for whoever gets him but the best CB in the PL not for me.

utter nonsense.

Toobz

MD1990 wrote: »

Don't get me wrong still a good signing for whoever gets him but the best CB in the PL not for me.

You're dead right, an uninjured Bailly with a run of games is.

Seems to have joses backing this year too so that'll be a filthy cb pairing if alderweirald comes in.

TitianGerm

Toobz wrote: »

You're dead right, an uninjured Bailly with a run of games is.

Seems to have joses backing this year too so that'll be a filthy cb pairing if alderweirald comes in.

No one can say Bailey is the best centre back in the league. He's missed more games than he's played for United.

rob316

Toby and Van Dijk best centre backs in the league imo.

Lucas Hood

rob316 wrote: »

Toby and Van Dijk best centre backs in the league imo.

Agree with that.

Think Liverpool should have went for him this summer myself.

rob316

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Agree with that.

Think Liverpool should have went for him this summer myself.

Liverpool wouldn't spend big money on a player of that age even if levy would sell.

Drumpot

rob316 wrote: »

Liverpool wouldn't spend big money on a player of that age even if levy would sell.

2 years ago it was that Liverpool wouldn’t spend that much money on one player.

I don’t understand a club that actually wants to win titles or champions league, setting limitations on who a manager can sign if that player is exactly what the first team needs. Liverpool have not looked this capable of putting in a decent challange in a long time.

From a united perspective, as far as I am concerned the glazers have gotten 3 of the 5 transfers they wanted, now pony up for a player the manager can immediately use. Don’t care his cost, he takes united up a level now so buy him and stop haggling.

ERG89

adox wrote:

There’s a touch of whataboutery in this post.

Not at all. World class centre backs are as good as extinct now and the good ones are at the top clubs in Europe who challenge and win leagues. In the last few years you had the likes of Wes Morgan, David Luiz and Otamendi get team of the year honours in England which says it all. If I were United I'd have

Lucas Hood wrote:

Can you not be world class at Spurs?
Kane must be there or thereabouts.

Kane would never be dropped like Rose or Alderweireld were. He's been their best player for the last 3 years and as good as he's been there is always talk of him needing to leave to push on for a reason.
Spurs are looking at Jack Grealish all summer. I can't say bringing in him will help improve on last season.
If I was Kane I'd give it a year or 2 at Spurs to see are they moving forward & challenging most years if not he should look to go.

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1025798838072881155

"BREAKING: Bournemouth have agreed a club-record £25m fee with Levante for Colombia midfielder Jefferson Lerma. He will travel to England for a medical this weekend. "

Chancer3001

Hey keep transfer news out of the "how good is Toby " thread

POKERKING

rob316 wrote: »

Toby and Van Dijk best centre backs in the league imo.

A half fit vincent kompany better than them both!

yabadabado

ERG89 wrote: »

Not at all. World class centre backs are as good as extinct now and the good ones are at the top clubs in Europe who challenge and win leagues. In the last few years you had the likes of Wes Morgan, David Luiz and Otamendi get team of the year honours in England which says it all. If I were United I'd have

Judge Alderweireld against his peers ,as good as whats around at the moment. There are very few better centre backs in the world than him currently playing .

Team of the year is a fairly pointless metric to use.

If You were United you'd have .......

Harry Palmr

https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1025861435052699649

https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1025860176492908544

giveitholly

Harry Palmr wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1025861435052699649

https://twitter.com/MirrorFootball/status/1025860176492908544

Jesus wept

Cantona's Collars

Gayle swap for Rondon close between Newcastle and WBA.

gimli2112

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Agree with that.

Think Liverpool should have went for him this summer myself.

and bench "world cup" Lovern?

Iused2likebusts

giveitholly wrote: »

Jesus wept

He is grand . Only signed a new 5 year deal the other day.

MD1990

yabadabado wrote: »

Judge Alderweireld against his peers ,as good as whats around at the moment. There are very few better centre backs in the world than him currently playing .

Team of the year is a fairly pointless metric to use.

If You were United you'd have .......

Varane
Ramos
Godin
Gimenez
Van Dijk
Bonucci (not the AC Milan version)
Pique
Umtiti
Chiellini
Koulibaly

all better than Alderweireld.

And so it begins :P

Giggsy11

Fred The Red wrote: »

And so it begins :P

Surprised it took so long.

Harry Palmr

Mike Ashley such a cheapskate

Newcastle want to sign Danny Ings on a loan deal which will be made permanent for £15m if they stay up

Apparently there is a queue forming for Ings no doubt working on the principle that he'll fill out the English quota and might just stay fit. 15m will not get him.

MD1990

Blazer wrote: »

utter nonsense.

Utter nonsense that is isn't dominant in the air :rolleyes:




pace is more subjective but I would not consider him quick but it isn't a huge flaw as he reads the game very well.

A good defender no doubt but not world class

Good signing for Man Utd as well but not the best CB in the league.

Lucas Hood

Very selective picking of stats there when the other 2 suggest he's as good as the other if not even better.

SM01

There's a handful of players who could be called best in the league. Toby is one of them. There's arguments back and forth why he is/isn't that are derailing the v thread a tad. He's what United need and they've loads of money so really it's a no brainer.

Rayne Wooney

Van Dijk, lol

gimli2112

SM01 wrote: »

There's a handful of players who could be called best in the league. Toby is one of them. There's arguments back and forth why he is/isn't that are derailing the v thread a tad. He's what United need and they've loads of money so really it's a no brainer.

I just hope they pay more for him than we did for VVD, so I can get on my high horse.

Trigger

£60m but that’s according to the tabloids though so that probably includes wages, signing on bonuses and any add-on clauses

pjohnson

astradave wrote: »

£60m but that’s according to the tabloids though so that probably includes wages, signing on bonuses and any add-on clauses

Give it a few more hours and he'll be getting 300k a week per the tabloids. Inflation is mad.

yabadabado

MD1990 wrote: »

Varane
Ramos
Godin
Gimenez
Van Dijk
Bonucci (not the AC Milan version)
Pique
Umtiti
Chiellini
Koulibaly

all better than Alderweireld.

Thanks for backing up my post.As I say very few better centre backs in the world than him.

MD1990

yabadabado wrote: »

Thanks for backing up my post.As I say very few better centre backs in the world than him.

You have backed up nothing.

I suggest you watch some games outside the EPL.

marklazarcovic

Christ above

Lucas Hood

Burnley sign Ben Gibson

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/news/2018/august/big-ben-chimes-in-at-turf-moor/

Alderweireld getting better as it gets closer to deadline day.

Ballon d'Or favourite come August 9th.

pjohnson

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Burnley sign Ben Gibson

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/news/2018/august/big-ben-chimes-in-at-turf-moor/

How does he compare to Pique is the big question.