Summer Transfer Thread Bonanza (World Cup watch included)

OwaynOTT

martyos121 wrote: »

Not anymore, joined Milan permanently on July 1st.

Moving from Milan all ready? He always had great movement.

gimli2112

Bakayoko to Milan on a season long loan with an option to buy for €35M.

Johner

OwaynOTT wrote: »

Moving from Milan all ready? He always had great movement.

Think they had to sign him after his loan.

Agent Coulson

Where are AC Milan getting all the money from weren't their Chinese owners declared bankrupt earlier this year?

Skylinehead

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Where are AC Milan getting all the money from weren't their Chinese owners declared bankrupt earlier this year?

Taken over by Elliott, a hedge fund. Seem to have a bit more cash now.

Subcomandante Marcos

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Where are AC Milan getting all the money from weren't their Chinese owners declared bankrupt earlier this year?

The Chinese guy who bought Milan did so using $430million of his own (or other people's money) and the remaining $300 million was a loan from Elliot which he had to pay back + interest.

He missed two payments and defaulted on the debt and Elliot took control of an asset valued at +$730million dollars, with its debts having been cleared, for less than half the value. They've decided to stabilise the asset for 2-3 years before selling, hoping returning to the champions league in that time will increase the value further. They've increased the clubs capital by $50million, which was further increased by the sales of Kalinic, Locatelli, Bonucci, Niang, Lapadula, and Gomez.

The reason all of the signings have been made as loans with obligations to buy instead of outright buying players if to spread the costs and avoid FFP penalties.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-soccer-acmilan-elliott/hedge-fund-elliott-takes-control-of-italian-soccer-club-ac-milan-idUSKBN1K030I

pjohnson

Lee fcukin Cattermole is being linked with a loan move from Sunderland to Bordeaux???

martyos121

pjohnson wrote: »

Lee fcukin Cattermole is being linked with a loan move from Sunderland to Bordeaux???

Swapping the Buckfast for Merlot?

Trigger

pjohnson wrote: »

Lee fcukin Cattermole is being linked with a loan move from Sunderland to Bordeaux???

Was it Neeson that always raves about him? He’ll be delighted and in the United thread saying how much we need a hard man like lee Cattermole in the team :pac:

pjohnson

There is something broken in the French league. Joey Barton, Steven Fletcher and now Lee feckin Cattermole have all got loans over there :pac:

Chancer3001

Don't forget tony cascarino back in the day!

dr.kenneth noisewater

pjohnson wrote:

Lee fcukin Cattermole is being linked with a loan move from Sunderland to Bordeaux???

Poyet manager there now

ConnyMcDavid

Nixonbot wrote: »

Taken over by Elliott, a hedge fund. Seem to have a bit more cash now.

Li is suing them too but they will rip him apart. I hear they are ruthless on the law front. They have been involved with Lille too but have started to withdraw now.

They plan on working on Milan for 3 years before selling on.

Trigger

Monchi snapping up players left right and centre for Roma..

https://twitter.com/asromaen/status/1029435161895739393?s=21

gimli2112

It must be scary having your club owned by a largely anonymous hedge fund. I presume there are premier league rules around how you dispose of assets otherwise the Glazers would have shipped OT to China by now.
In fairness the larger PL clubs seem pretty well run as businesses.

Subcomandante Marcos

gimli2112 wrote: »

It must be scary having your club owned by a largely anonymous hedge fund. I presume there are premier league rules around how you dispose of assets otherwise the Glazers would have shipped OT to China by now.
In fairness the larger PL clubs seem pretty well run as businesses.

I dunno, if I was a Milan fan I'd be happier knowing that Elliot owned the club than some anonymous Chinese guy with dubious wealth he can't seem to actually access to pay his debts.

How he was ever cleared to buy the club is amazing, the man is a total chancer.

They have nothing to strip of intrensic value really, the club is basically just a brand. It's in their interest to build the brand and make as much profit as possible by selling it on.

Not really transfer news but super news for Palace locking down Zaha

Fitz*

Fred The Red wrote: »

Not really transfer news but super news for Palace locking down Zaha

Wonder what the relegation release clause is?

FitzShane

FitzShane wrote: »

Wonder what the relegation release clause is?

I think they will be fine this year but yea, I'd expect there is something in the contract alright.

Trigger

No release clauses apparently

https://twitter.com/domfifield/status/1029682798712549377?s=21

Officer999

Samuel Eto'o has signed for Qatari club Qatar SC from Konyaspor.

Subcomandante Marcos

Jaysus, Milan with another two.

Fresh on the heels of Bakayoko they have agreed a fee of €19 + Carlos Bacca with Villareal for Samu Castillejo, while they'll pay Geona €14 + €4 million in bonuses for Diego Laxalt.

Both are in Milan tonight and have medicals tomorrow.

Serious width and pace being added to Milan's left side, something they lacked a bit last season.

Trigger

Loads of reports today that PL clubs could vote again to move the window closure back to August 31st

Disaster :pac:

rob316

astradave wrote: »

Loads of reports today that PL clubs could vote again to move the window closure back to August 31st

Disaster :pac:

Well it would of worked fine if they had decided not to implement in a world cup year.

~Rebel~

astradave wrote: »

No release clauses apparently

https://twitter.com/domfifield/status/1029682798712549377?s=21

Would expect his massive wage almost acts as a release clause in and of itself, as there's no way they could afford it in the championship.. but the club is protected from a set figure if they did have to sell at least.

~Rebel~

rob316 wrote: »

Well it would of worked fine if they had decided not to implement in a world cup year.

And even as it is, they all knew what they had to do. Plenty of clubs managed to get their business done. I really like this 'teams set in stone' before a ball is kicked thing.

And as you say, they'll have an extra 6 weeks effectively next season without the world cup. No point changing back.

DubDani

21 year old Schalke defender Thilo Kehrer has moved for some 37mil to PSG. Surprising one there, at least to me.

laoch na mona

Brighton have loaned Percy Tau to Union Saint Gilloise (Belgian second division side) for the season,

Tony Bloom owns both clubs and apparently there was an issue with his work permit for the UK but still a surprise that he's not being loaned to a higher ranked side

a big boost to union saint gilloise though

CantGetNoSleep

laoch na mona wrote: »

Brighton have loaned Percy Tau to Union Saint Gilloise (Belgian second division side) for the season,

Tony Bloom owns both clubs and apparently there was an issue with his work permit for the UK but still a surprise that he's not being loaned to a higher ranked side

a big boost to union saint gilloise though

Union Saint Gilloise were destroyed at the weekend by a George Hirst inspired OH Leuven - another one who is causing controversy with two club partnerships / shared owners - out of contract at Sheffield Wednesday, Leicester wanted to sign him but couldn't agree fee / compensation, so he goes to their sister club abroad (less compensation due)

ASOT

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Union Saint Gilloise were destroyed at the weekend by a George Hirst inspired OH Leuven - another one who is causing controversy with two club partnerships / shared owners - out of contract at Sheffield Wednesday, Leicester wanted to sign him but couldn't agree fee / compensation, so he goes to their sister club abroad (less compensation due)

Just seen Pearson's there boss also that's mad.

dr.kenneth noisewater

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

laoch na mona wrote: »

Brighton have loaned Percy Tau to Union Saint Gilloise (Belgian second division side) for the season,

Tony Bloom owns both clubs and apparently there was an issue with his work permit for the UK but still a surprise that he's not being loaned to a higher ranked side

a big boost to union saint gilloise though

Union Saint Gilloise were destroyed at the weekend by a George Hirst inspired OH Leuven - another one who is causing controversy with two club partnerships / shared owners - out of contract at Sheffield Wednesday, Leicester wanted to sign him but couldn't agree fee / compensation, so he goes to their sister club abroad (less compensation due)

Good article on it from last weekend

Mr.Nice Guy

Bordeaux have sold striker Gaetan Laborde to rivals Montpellier and Gus Poyet ain't happy:

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1030204906890645504

Liam O

~Rebel~ wrote: »

And even as it is, they all knew what they had to do. Plenty of clubs managed to get their business done. I really like this 'teams set in stone' before a ball is kicked thing.

And as you say, they'll have an extra 6 weeks effectively next season without the world cup. No point changing back.

Hardly set in stone when they can still buy in January... Might as well have free reign until then as far as I'm concerned as players heads can still be turned mid season, see Sanchez last season. Though I don't think he remembered to turn it back given his performances...

StringerBell

Also not set in stone as they sign players but they can still lose players. Just seems idiotic in practise as the other leagues are not doing the same.

If all leagues closed at the same time id be all for it for the record, I think the window closing before a competitive ball is kicked is how it should be.

yabadabado

~Rebel~ wrote: »

And even as it is, they all knew what they had to do. Plenty of clubs managed to get their business done. I really like this 'teams set in stone' before a ball is kicked thing.

And as you say, they'll have an extra 6 weeks effectively next season without the world cup. No point changing back.

It was idiotic to change it when all other leagues weren't doing the same.
It's a good idea to have a squad set before season starts but no good when you start losing players to other clubs outside UK.

pjohnson

Serie A closes at 7pm tonight.

KingdomYid

pjohnson wrote: »

Serie A closes at 7pm tonight.

Yep Italy following the same model, close before a ball is kicked. I agree with the principle of it to be honest, but will always be tricky as not every season starts the same weekend.

justshane

Marchisio has left Juve, never the same since his cruciate injury. Still a good signing for a host of clubs.

Fitz*

KingdomYid wrote: »

Yep Italy following the same model, close before a ball is kicked. I agree with the principle of it to be honest, but will always be tricky as not every season starts the same weekend.

Yeah I think they are on the right track.

The best time to get the window totally in sync will probably be the year before/after the Qatar WC. All leagues will have to start & finish earlier & later so maybe that is the time to sync them up. Everyone start mid-late August or something.

Baggly

yabadabado wrote: »

It was idiotic to change it when all other leagues weren't doing the same.
It's a good idea to have a squad set before season starts but no good when you start losing players to other clubs outside UK.

It would, imo, be idiotic to want to change it but wait for every league in the world to fall in line.

yabadabado

Pter wrote: »

It would, imo, be idiotic to want to change it but wait for every league in the world to fall in line.

Makes no sense that you can lose players but are unable to replace them .This was supposed to be for squad to have stability.

Quazzie

yabadabado wrote: »

Makes no sense that you can lose players but are unable to replace them .This was supposed to be for squad to have stability.

No one HAS to be sell players.

Baggly

yabadabado wrote:

Makes no sense that you can lose players but are unable to replace them .This was supposed to be for squad to have stability.

Don't sell your players so.

yabadabado

If only it was that straightforward.

Baggly

yabadabado wrote:

If only it was that straightforward.

How is it not? How many key players have English clubs lost so far?

Baggly

Apart, obviously, from Klavan, of course.

yabadabado

Pter wrote: »

How is it not? How many key players have English clubs lost so far?

Clubs often don't have much option than to sell if a player wants out.Leave a player to rot in the reserves or leave them to be a toxic presence around the club.
Sometimes it best to cut your losses but at least before this you could replace them.

Whos to know who may move before the transfer window closes. EPL clubs willingly gave away some of their power.

Amirani

FitzShane wrote: »

Yeah I think they are on the right track.

The best time to get the window totally in sync will probably be the year before/after the Qatar WC. All leagues will have to start & finish earlier & later so maybe that is the time to sync them up. Everyone start mid-late August or something.

That's not going to happen for a variety of reasons.

Baggly

yabadabado wrote: »

Clubs often don't have much option than to sell if a player wants out.Leave a player to rot in the reserves or leave them to be a toxic presence around the club.
Sometimes it best to cut your losses but at least before this you could replace them.

Whos to know who may move before the transfer window closes. EPL clubs willingly gave away some of their power.

So a player suddenly becomes a toxic presence after the PL window closes but before the others do? Im not buying that.

If you wanted someone out and time to replace them, clubs had all summer to sort it (and a lot of them did).

And so far, we havent seen any adverse effects to closing early. Who are you thinking of? Pogba? Not gonna happen this summer window. Cant see City selling anyone, cant see Pool selling anyone of significance, cant see Arsenal selling anyone they dont want to. Outside of that, im not seeing any chat of significant players leaving any PL club.

I understand where you are coming from, but i dont think the effect you are talking about is actually going to take place.

Mr.Nice Guy

Simone Zaza has signed for Torino from Valencia. They're packing some firepower now with him, Belotti, Falque and Ljajic.