Summer Transfer Thread Bonanza (World Cup watch included)

TitianGerm

yabadabado wrote: »

Klopp will do the decent thing and stick with Karius.Only a few weeks ago he was seemingly very good.

No errors leading to goals in the 32 games before the CL final and two huge errors that night.

Whether he's there or not next season he needs to be taken out of the spotlight for a time.

Gbear

sugarman wrote: »

Yeah but Buffon was bought way back in 2001! £32.6m adjusted for inflation in 2017 is £51.3m!

That doesn't really compare either, because prices have grown out of proportion to currency inflation.

The scale of the signing is probably like £120m+ these days.

yabadabado

Lukker- wrote: »

Honestly, it might be Karius's wish to leave. Hard to come back from something like that after getting death threats etc. Keeping is such a confidence based thing, any self doubt creeps in and you are goosed.

You maybe right ,forgot about the death threats and online abuse. Maybe he would be glad of a move.

blueser

sugarman wrote: »

Yeah but Buffon was bought way back in 2001! £32.6m adjusted for inflation in 2017 is £51.3m!

Gbear wrote: »

That doesn't really compare either, because prices have grown out of proportion to currency inflation.

The scale of the signing is probably like £120m+ these days.

Both very valid points. 30-odd million back in 2001 was a serious wedge.

the untitled user

Gbear wrote: »

That doesn't really compare either, because prices have grown out of proportion to currency inflation.

The scale of the signing is probably like £120m+ these days.

A good barometer would be as a percentage of total revenue... Juvenut's revenue in 2001/2002 was around €175m according to their own documents. Last season it was €550m. That would be put Buffon's signing in the region of €102m, about 19% of annual revenue.

Cantona's Collars

Mundo Deportivo:

Liverpool have contacted Barcelona about Cillesen and Dembele.

GavRedKing

Wolves have spent 12.5m on Benik Afobe from Bournemouth.

Iang87

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Mundo Deportivo:

Liverpool have contacted Barcelona about Cillesen and Dembele.

I'd be surprised with both of these. Dembele would realistically be a squad player. (still probably play 25-30 games) but he wouldnt break the front 3 at the minute and for what Liverpool would have to pay. I'd assume Barca would want a fair chunk of their fee from last year back.

As for Cillesen. I dunno but a traffic cone would have been an improvement on last week

TitianGerm

Iang87 wrote: »

I'd be surprised with both of these. Dembele would realistically be a squad player. (still probably play 25-30 games) but he wouldnt break the front 3 at the minute and for what Liverpool would have to pay. I'd assume Barca would want a fair chunk of their fee from last year back.

As for Cillesen. I dunno but a traffic cone would have been an improvement on last week

Any links with Dembele have been saying it's a loan move.

yabadabado

Why would Barca sell Dembele?
He is a serious talent and had an ok season after that bad injury.
Wouldn't they want to recoup the fee which isn't likely to happen.

Gbear

TitianGerm wrote: »

Any links with Dembele have been saying it's a loan move.

Even a two year loan with an option to buy doesn't make that much sense to me.

I guess we might be hesitant to commit to signing another big-name forward, or they might be hesitant to come, given that the front 3 are nailed on, but if you can say anything about Klopp, you can say he's not a short-termist.

Trigger

Sure he is a RW anyways, will he be happy sitting on the bench backing up Salah

Iang87

TitianGerm wrote: »

Any links with Dembele have been saying it's a loan move.

Makes a lot more sense now. Hadnt read anything about the links apart from here

TitianGerm

Gbear wrote: »

Even a two year loan with an option to buy doesn't make that much sense to me.

I guess we might be hesitant to commit to signing another big-name forward, or they might be hesitant to come, given that the front 3 are nailed on, but if you can say anything about Klopp, you can say he's not a short-termist.

The only reason I can see Barcelona selling him is if they are now struggling to pay Dortmund and Liverpool from last summer.

I don't think they'd have any other reason at the moment.

NIMAN

He was being touted as one of the young rising stars, so is he not?

I know he was out most of season, but surely Barca could use a talented player?

TitianGerm

NIMAN wrote: »

He was being touted as one of the young rising stars, so is he not?

I know he was out most of season, but surely Barca could use a talented player?

Is the Grizman transfer still on? Maybe they need more money for that?

Trigger

TitianGerm wrote: »

Is the Grizman transfer still on? Maybe they need more money for that?

He won’t think about his future until July he said so no idea anymore ha

Agent Coulson

Are Barca under FFP issues with the Dembele & Coutinho deals.


That they may need to sell to buy.

GavRedKing

I dont think we'll see any big deals done until after the WC and then it will be a free for all.

GavRedKing

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Are Barca under FFP issues with the Dembele & Coutinho deals.


That they may need to sell to buy.

I dont know about Barca but I think PSG are under threat for cooking their books to the tune of 200m.

I'm sure I read that somewhere recently.

yabadabado

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Are Barca under FFP issues with the Dembele & Coutinho deals.


That they may need to sell to buy.

They sold Neymer for around the price they paid for both those 2.
I can't see it being an issue.

Be mad to sell/loan Dembele imo,give him a full season injury free ,he hugely talented.

Lucas Hood

astradave wrote: »

Sure he is a RW anyways, will he be happy sitting on the bench backing up Salah

Isn't Salah dead?


Or you'd swear he was at least.

yabadabado

astradave wrote: »

Sure he is a RW anyways, will he be happy sitting on the bench backing up Salah

Salah is off to Real ,Ramos twisted his arm.

Agent Coulson

yabadabado wrote: »

They sold Neymer for around the price they paid for both those 2.
I can't see it being an issue.

Be mad to sell/loan Dembele imo,give him a full season injury free ,he hugely talented.

I thought I read somewhere that the Neymar money wasn't enough to wipe out previous issues with FFP.


I guess we will find out over the summer.

GavRedKing

If Barca werent paying insane wages to about 4 players, it might help their cause.

StringerBell

GavRedKing wrote: »

If Barca werent paying insane wages to about 4 players, it might help their cause.

Messi...... Suarez is not as far as I know on the kind of money I assume is covered by the same interpretation of insane? Then again maybe he is I haven't checked Neymar gone, I'm struggling to find the 4 players you mean!

Iniesta gone, Sergio be on good money I'm sure but not crazy? Pique is on a fair wedge is he?

Lord TSC

yabadabado wrote: »

Salah is off to Real ,Ramos twisted his arm.

Booooooo, get off Boards, Dad!

GavRedKing

Ya, those 4 combined must be on well over 1 million a week.

Messis new contract has been reported as €70m a year, even he does pay the 45% (he doesnt) thats still 600k a week.

I Think Suarez was reported to have close to 300k a week.

Pique and Busquets, I'm safely assuming at least 150k a week.

Thats just 4 players. :pac:

Agent Coulson

There was a story a few months back on how Barca pay Messi through the club a separate company and his charity all combined he is getting close to a million a week after tax.

MD1990

Messi got a 100m signing on bonus & is on 70m a year.

Barcelona for sure will need to get rid of quite a few players. Gomez Alcacer wont get huge fee's. If they want Griezmann they will need to sell Dembele.

StringerBell

GavRedKing wrote: »

Ya, those 4 combined must be on well over 1 million a week.

Messis new contract has been reported as €70m a year, even he does pay the 45% (he doesnt) thats still 600k a week.

I Think Suarez was reported to have close to 300k a week.

Pique and Busquets, I'm safely assuming at least 150k a week.

Thats just 4 players. :pac:

Messi money is just unbelievable like, the rest seem reasonable in comparison

Harry Palmr

West Ham are in for Pastore. Not pasta, Javier Pastore

StringerBell

Harry Palmr wrote: »

West Ham are in for Pastore. Not pasta, Javier Pastore

Believe it when it see it, I'm sure they wouldn't mind Messi or Neymar either

Lyle Lanley

Agent Coulson wrote: »

There was a story a few months back on how Barca pay Messi through the club a separate company and his charity all combined he is getting close to a million a week after tax.

After what?

pjohnson

Ben Hamer swaps a spot in the stands at Leicester to a spot on Huddersfield's bench

SuperTortoise

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Are Barca under FFP issues with the Dembele & Coutinho deals.


That they may need to sell to buy.

I would'nt have thought so in terms of FFP, they got 200m for Neymar.
However their wage bill is fairly big which is probably their main issue.

gimli2112

Why are we all talking about FPP like it's a thing? PSG were already done and got a fine they probably paid for with change they dug out of their sofa? If they go done again are there serious sanctions or do they just pay off UEFA again?

Lord TSC

Following Rui Patrico doing so yesterday, William Carvalho has rescinded his contract with Sporting.

Podence has as well, and there's chat that Gelson Martins will be soon.

Trigger

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/1002605763938979840

Cantona's Collars

Maddest unveil video ever.

https://twitter.com/RealBetis/status/1002486161699319810

Betis announced Takashi Inui from Eibar.

irishguitarlad

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Maddest unveil video ever.

https://twitter.com/RealBetis/status/1002486161699319810

Betis announced Takashi Inui from Eibar.

A good bit of business. Add to that Canales and whatever transfers that are coming afterwards. Although Fabián Ruiz is probably going like I posted a few pages back. Atletico Madrid have now entered the race to sign him.

retalivity

Marco Bielsa to Leeds!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/06/01/argentina-chile-elland-roadmarcelo-bielsa-emerges-unlikely-leeds/

Agent Coulson

Wow didn't see that one coming.

Fair play to Leeds that some get more mad times ahead for them.

SuperTortoise

gimli2112 wrote: »

Why are we all talking about FPP like it's a thing? PSG were already done and got a fine they probably paid for with change they dug out of their sofa? If they go done again are there serious sanctions or do they just pay off UEFA again?

UEFA sanctioned an independent review of PSG's "sponsonship" over the last few months, long story short they were found to be making a lot of it up so now UEFA are threatening expulsion from the champs league next year if they don't sort it out, it was said they would'nt be able to buy Mbappe because of this, the coming weeks will tell a lot of how serious UEFA actually are.

the whole year inn

SuperTortoise wrote: »

UEFA sanctioned an independent review of PSG's "sponsonship" over the last few months, long story short they were found to be making a lot of it up so now UEFA are threatening expulsion from the champs league next year if they don't sort it out, it was said they would'nt be able to buy Mbappe because of this, the coming weeks will tell a lot of how serious UEFA actually are.

Real or City so.Thats if FPP will do anything.

TitianGerm

the whole year inn wrote: »

Real or City so.Thats if FPP will do anything.

Could UFEA look into some of City's sponsorship deals I wonder? They signed some huge deals previously when the club had only gotten it's "new" money and they may have been vastly over inflated as there were links between the City owners and the sponsorship partners.

Edit: maybe it's not clear what I'm saying.

United are worth 2bn and City are worth 900m. Therefore it's logical that sponsors would pay more to be involved with United than City.

Do the actual deals match this? Or are City's deal with associated companies pay more in sponsorship than they "need" to?

the whole year inn

TitianGerm wrote: »

Could UFEA look into some of City's sponsorship deals I wonder? They signed some huge deals previously when the club had only gotten it's "new" money and they may have been vastly over inflated as there were links between the City owners and the sponsorship partners.

Edit: maybe it's not clear what I'm saying.

United are worth 2bn and City are worth 900m. Therefore it's logical that sponsors would pay more to be involved with United than City.

Do the actual deals match this? Or are City's deal with associated companies pay more in sponsorship than they "need" to?

They were allready fined ,so suppose they could be looked into again.

gimli2112

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/jul/08/manchester-city-deal-etihad-airways

this is the one that always struck me as odd but it's 8 years ago now. Be interesting to see what the figure is when it renews in a couple of years

yabadabado

Massively inflated price but nothing odd about it when you see the company involved.

TitianGerm

gimli2112 wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/jul/08/manchester-city-deal-etihad-airways

this is the one that always struck me as odd but it's 8 years ago now. Be interesting to see what the figure is when it renews in a couple of years

That was two years after the takeover and they paid 200m for the club so it's a bit mad that a sponsorship deal worth double the club could be a true value