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solicitor sending queries by post in 2018

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  • 09-05-2018 12:42pm
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    sullydublin
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭


    Hi All, 
    We are in the middle of selling our home and we are nearly at the stage where the purchaser will be signing contracts. The purchasers solictor has sent back queries by normal post. is this some type of delay tactic? 

    Just find it crazy in 2018 that a Solictor isn't emailing queries.


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    Askthe EA
    Registered Users Posts: 724 ✭✭✭Askthe EA


    sullydublin wrote: »
    Hi All, 
    We are in the middle of selling our home and we are nearly at the stage where the purchaser will be signing contracts. The purchasers solictor has sent back queries by normal post. is this some type of delay tactic? 

    Just find it crazy in 2018 that a Solictor isn't emailing queries.

    Solicitors do EVERYTHING by post.


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    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users Posts: 5,705 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    They drag things out and then charge you for it.


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    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,621 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They use their own postal system called DX
    Why? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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    sullydublin
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sullydublin


    It's absolute madness, another day lost to backwards solicitors.


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    CrankyHaus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Generally it is to increase billable costs.
    Many firms even send emails with no content, only an attachment of the 'letter' containing the message being sent, for this purpose.


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    GingerLily
    Registered Users Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Ask to get them couriered, you'll be charged but well worth it if your anxious to get it sorted.


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    Grolschevik
    Registered Users Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    Many solicitors don't have systems in place for the verification of digital signatures.


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    jimbev
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭jimbev


    Is it because they need a hard copy with a real signiture


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    vmb
    Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭vmb


    jimbev wrote: »
    Is it because they need a hard copy with a real signiture

    So then someone should show them that we are in 2018 and digital signature is 100% safe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signature . It's been available and used since the 80s. Solicitors/goberments in other countries use it.

    There is no excuse. I've only needed a solicitor once, for conveyancing, and the experience was dreadful for such a simple process. It's not rocket science!


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    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Solicitors write letters for a few reasons. They have to keep a hard copy file so a copy is always put on the file anyway. They mostly use dictaphones rather than sit at a PC. If anything goes to court it looks more impressive if a solicitor has a copy letter on headed paper along with the postal receipt. Email systems go down, accounts are hacked and so on. Files have to be kept for years as trouble may come back. Solicitors practices are sold, staff leave etc. It is essential that there are full paper files with all correspondence available, so that another solicitor can, if necessary follow the full sequence.


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    PCeeeee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    Solicitors write letters for a few reasons. They have to keep a hard copy file so a copy is always put on the file anyway. They mostly use dictaphones rather than sit at a PC. If anything goes to court it looks more impressive if a solicitor has a copy letter on headed paper along with the postal receipt. Email systems go down, accounts are hacked and so on. Files have to be kept for years as trouble may come back. Solicitors practices are sold, staff leave etc. It is essential that there are full paper files with all correspondence available, so that another solicitor can, if necessary follow the full sequence.

    Paper is not essential for any of this


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    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    PCeeeee wrote: »
    Paper is not essential for any of this

    In theory, maybe. Who knows what might happen in the future? A bad virus or a hack could ruin an IT system. The Law Society often demand to see copies of files.
    The papers might have to be printed out eventually. I have seen a judge refuse to accept printouts on the basis they were not contemporaneous copies of documents issued.


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    PCeeeee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    In theory, maybe. Who knows what might happen in the future? A bad virus or a hack could ruin an IT system. The Law Society often demand to see copies of files.
    The papers might have to be printed out eventually. I have seen a judge refuse to accept printouts on the basis they were not contemporaneous copies of documents issued.

    A fire or explosion could destroy paper.

    The legal profession have no incentive to be more efficient. I don't mean to be rude but can you imagine how ridiculous this looks to other professions?


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    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    I'm 38, a computer nerd and I still prefer reading documents, especially legal documents in hard copy. They're easier to read and errors, omissions or additions are much easier to spot. I work in a job where people deal with digital contracts everyday and they are frequently misread.


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    handlemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    sullydublin wrote: »
    Hi All, 
    We are in the middle of selling our home and we are nearly at the stage where the purchaser will be signing contracts. The purchasers solictor has sent back queries by normal post. is this some type of delay tactic? 

    Just find it crazy in 2018 that a Solictor isn't emailing queries.
    probably 50 euro per letter, as far as their concerned let the delays keep coming.


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    handlemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    sullydublin wrote: »
    Hi All, 
    We are in the middle of selling our home and we are nearly at the stage where the purchaser will be signing contracts. The purchasers solictor has sent back queries by normal post. is this some type of delay tactic? 

    Just find it crazy in 2018 that a Solictor isn't emailing queries.
    probably 50 euro per letter, as far as their concerned let the delays keep coming.


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    stargazer 68
    Registered Users Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    Our Solicitor did everything by email until we went into his office to sign the paperwork.


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    sullydublin
    Registered Users Posts: 179 ✭✭sullydublin


    Here's a question has anyone ever changed Solicitor during the middle of the process?


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    zl1whqvjs75cdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    Sure how would they charge you 150 quid for postage if they didn't post something. Our solicitor sent literally 3 letters and charged 150 for post.


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    Juwwi
    Registered Users Posts: 4,250 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    sullydublin wrote: »
    Here's a question has anyone ever changed Solicitor during the middle of the process?


    How long has it been since you went sale agreed on the house ?

    I recently sold and was in the same boat as you thinking solicitor wasn't moving quickly but l think its just the process is slow .

    I think you'd find it hard to change solicitor now presuming he has alot of documents new solicitor would need it would just slow things down further .


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    Dial Hard
    Registered Users Posts: 13,709 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    sullydublin wrote: »
    Here's a question has anyone ever changed Solicitor during the middle of the process?

    Yeah, I did. We went sale agreed in January and by May we still hadn't closed (we weren't selling and it was a new build so no delays with vendors having to move or anything like that). Our solicitor dragged and dragged and dragged his feet and equivocated at every turn as to what was causing the delays. We finally got so sick of him that we changed solicitor and we were just sorry we hadn't done it sooner. We closed within three weeks of changing.


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