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Disciplining Children AKA Back in my day they behaved.

  • 10-05-2018 12:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,938 ✭✭✭✭


    Does not exist anymore really.

    I think we need to bring back parental physical discipline of children. I don't mean beatings but "hidings" could be in. This is as nature intended to keep the sprogs in check.

    We have moved away from that and the result is not good. Children with zero discipline, respect and no direction.

    Only going to get worse.

    Time to take control. The politically correct world is on it's last legs. People want common sense. This is part of restoring the balance.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Its not needed. You just need parents that care for their kids needs as opposed to their wants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Does not exist anymore really.

    I think we need to bring back parental physical discipline of children. I don't mean beatings but "hidings" could be in. This is as nature intended to keep the sprogs in check.

    We have moved away from that and the result is not good. Children with zero discipline, respect and no direction.

    Only going to get worse.

    Time to take control. The politically correct world is on it's last legs. People want common sense. This is part of restoring the balance.

    Do you mean " hiding" the kids somewhere , maybe in a dungeon or basement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Wouldn't like to be one of your sprogs frog


  • Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭Experience_day


    I remember trying to run across a street when I was a child. Nearly got flattened by a lorry apparently. I got a stinging slap on the hand for my troubles. I remembered that! (and the early night :pac: ).

    Within strict moderation, I don't see a problem. Obviously it's very easily abused but I think it has its place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    Spare the rod and spoil the child has long thought to be unture.

    Physically correcting children can lead to violent and aggressive behavior as the child grows older. (among other issues)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,156 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    I remember trying to run across a street when I was a killed. Nearly got flattened by a lorry apparently. I got a stinging slap on the hand for my troubles. I remembered that! (and the early night :pac: ).

    Within strict moderation, I don't see a problem. Obviously it's very easily abused but I think it has its place.

    Itsa you Mario?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie



    I think we need to bring back parental physical discipline of children. I don't mean beatings but "hidings" could be in. This is as nature intended to keep the sprogs in check.

    Can you explain the difference between a 'beating' and a 'hiding'?
    The nuance is kinda lost on me.

    Does one involve a fist and the other a belt or what is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I remember trying to run across a street when I was a killed. Nearly got flattened by a lorry apparently. I got a stinging slap on the hand for my troubles. I remembered that! (and the early night :pac: ).

    Within strict moderation, I don't see a problem. Obviously it's very easily abused but I think it has its place.

    So , are you alive now ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    I remember trying to run across a street when I was a killed. Nearly got flattened by a lorry apparently. I got a stinging slap on the hand for my troubles. I remembered that! (and the early night :pac: ).

    Within strict moderation, I don't see a problem. Obviously it's very easily abused but I think it has its place.

    You got killed and still posting, neat trick


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Teaching a child right from wrong seems to be a thing of the past. It's now all about their rights and perceived wrongs. And that someone else will do it, pay for it etc...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    I think we need to bring back parental physical discipline of children. I don't mean beatings but "hidings" could be in. This is as nature intended to keep the sprogs in check.


    I would like to propose beatings of the parents


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,156 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    So , are you alive now ?

    iczxLy.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Does not exist anymore really.

    I think we need to bring back parental physical discipline of children. I don't mean beatings but "hidings" could be in. This is as nature intended to keep the sprogs in check.

    We have moved away from that and the result is not good. Children with zero discipline, respect and no direction.
    .


    Funny that.
    I say something you don't agree with in another thread, and you comment a snide and unnecessary remark about intellectual abilities.

    Then you post here wondering where respect has gone...


  • Registered Users Posts: 359 ✭✭Experience_day


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Itsa you Mario?
    So , are you alive now ?

    No I'm a ghost.

    whooo


    :D
    :o


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We live in an "all or nothing" society now. Moderation of anything isn't particularly popular anymore. Instead, far better to ban it completely, and replace it with nothing.

    I would understand the change better if prospective parents were given classes on Child/teen psychology and other ways to discipline children... but... that's not going to happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    begbysback wrote: »
    Wouldn't like to be one of your sprogs frog

    He eats the most of them, so they say.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Physically correcting children can lead to violent and aggressive behavior as the child grows older. (among other issues)

    The opposite of that can be true too though.

    I'm not advocating physical punishment but this blind belief that it was wrong in all situations is too PC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    Are parents actually banned from slapping children now? I know it's not allowed in schools, but is it outright banned everywhere?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I am watching episodes of the "World's Strictest Parents" on youtube. It is an accredited reality TV series. The attitudes and behaviour of the teenagers..i contrast with the children in the host families...

    No I do not advocate hitting but NO means NO.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Are parents actually banned from slapping children now? I know it's not allowed in schools, but is it outright banned everywhere?

    Parents can be charged with assault for slapping or hitting their children.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,938 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Graces7 wrote: »
    I am watching episodes of the "World's Strictest Parents" on youtube. It is an accredited reality TV series. The attitudes and behaviour of the teenagers..i contrast with the children in the host families...

    No I do not advocate hitting but NO means NO.

    No to what?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    No to what?

    Rugs


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    Once we're allowed to cattle prod gangs of unruly teenagers, then I don't mind.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    fatknacker wrote: »
    Once we're allowed to cattle prod gangs of unruly teenagers, then I don't mind.

    Oh, you can. Off you go!

    The news will be far more interesting tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,663 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Does not exist anymore really.

    I think we need to bring back parental physical discipline of children. I don't mean beatings but "hidings" could be in. This is as nature intended to keep the sprogs in check.

    We have moved away from that and the result is not good. Children with zero discipline, respect and no direction.

    Only going to get worse.

    Time to take control. The politically correct world is on it's last legs. People want common sense. This is part of restoring the balance.

    RIP Communication

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,663 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Does not exist anymore really.

    I think we need to bring back parental physical discipline of children. I don't mean beatings but "hidings" could be in. This is as nature intended to keep the sprogs in check.

    We have moved away from that and the result is not good. Children with zero discipline, respect and no direction.

    Only going to get worse.

    Time to take control. The politically correct world is on it's last legs. People want common sense. This is part of restoring the balance.

    RIP Communication

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,663 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Does not exist anymore really.

    I think we need to bring back parental physical discipline of children. I don't mean beatings but "hidings" could be in. This is as nature intended to keep the sprogs in check.

    We have moved away from that and the result is not good. Children with zero discipline, respect and no direction.

    Only going to get worse.

    Time to take control. The politically correct world is on it's last legs. People want common sense. This is part of restoring the balance.

    RIP Communication

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    ^^^ Communication breakdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    We have moved away from that and the result is not good. Children with zero discipline, respect and no direction
    This complaint has existed since time immemorial. "Children these days aren't being raised right. They're loud and unruly and don't listen to their parents".

    Literally any human being in the last 100,000 years could have said that sentence.

    My personal experience, having children and therefore having to be around a lot of other people's children is that most people are doing pretty well. There are of course a couple of outliers - a few parents who would rather sit in the corner and look at their phone than correct their kids, and a few kids who are sh1theads. But for the most part most kids are nice kids, they're respectful and careful and just want to play games.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    fatknacker wrote: »
    Once we're allowed to cattle prod gangs of unruly teenagers, then I don't mind.

    That's a really backward mindset , to suggest using a cattle prod on teens.

    We've moved forward now and should be using tazers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭qwerty ui op


    Does not exist anymore really.

    I think we need to bring back parental physical discipline of children. I don't mean beatings but "hidings" could be in. This is as nature intended to keep the sprogs in check.

    We have moved away from that and the result is not good. Children with zero discipline, respect and no direction.

    Only going to get worse.

    Time to take control. The politically correct world is on it's last legs. People want common sense. This is part of restoring the balance.

    How come some people are always looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses.

    First thing you should do is take the vast majority of traditional parenting methods from all part of the world and throw that pile of **** into the bin.
    It didn't work!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Superplex off the top rope.

    That will quieten any child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    Change the wifi password. Thatll learn them.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Your Face wrote: »
    Superplex off the top rope.

    That will quieten any child.

    Unless the reverse it of course

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  • Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭wexford awake


    Nothing wrong with giving children four to six slaps across the arse or back of legs. Europe and their crap has made it illegal to physically discipline children. Kids were happier in the 70s 80s and 90s because we were simply tougher because we got tough love at home. Moddle coddling is more harmful than a slap.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Hitting children makes them happy. Well there we have it folks, lock the thread up because that one's going to be difficult to top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,530 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Nothing wrong with giving children four to six slaps across the arse or back of legs. Europe and their crap has made it illegal to physically discipline children. Kids were happier in the 70s 80s and 90s because we were simply tougher because we got tough love at home. Moddle coddling is more harmful than a slap.

    A few good kicks up the hole.

    Happy days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭wexford awake


    Suppose its quicker 😆


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,849 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    The quarterly children are misbehaving more than ever thread!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Weird to see so many people so eager to hit children.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭qwerty ui op


    Nothing wrong with giving children four to six slaps across the arse or back of legs. Europe and their crap has made it illegal to physically discipline children. Kids were happier in the 70s 80s and 90s because we were simply tougher because we got tough love at home. Moddle coddling is more harmful than a slap.

    Toughen um up eeh! by that logic we should all be building torture chambers for our children. Make them super tough for the big bad world out there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 185 ✭✭wexford awake


    See
    Nothing wrong with giving children four to six slaps across the arse or back of legs. Europe and their crap has made it illegal to physically discipline children. Kids were happier in the 70s 80s and 90s because we were simply tougher because we got tough love at home. Moddle coddling is more harmful than a slap.

    Toughen um up eeh! by that logic we should all be building torture chambers for our children. Make them super tough for the big bad world out there.

    See that's the problem, children have become like fragile ornaments. I mention a few smacks and you equate it to torture. No wonder kids Today are spoiled sh**ts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    See

    See that's the problem, children have become like fragile ornaments. I mention a few smacks and you equate it to torture. No wonder kids Today are spoiled sh**ts.

    Well, they're being spoiled by a generation who were used to getting a few whacks from the wooden spoon when they were younger.

    Seriously, there are better ways to discipline a child. I agree a lot of children nowadays seem to get away with murder, but it's not because their parents don't hit them. It's because their parents don't control them, say 'no' to them, back up teachers or neighbours who complain about their behaviour etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Weird to see so many people so eager to hit children.

    It's funny.

    I would have always been pro smacking (I mean for serious matters and at that, only a smack on the Arse or hand) but since becoming a dad I don't think I could ever bring myself to smack my child. I'd go so far as saying the thought of it actually horrifies me. Myself and my siblings got the wooden spoon by times growing up, weirdly it was always my mam, and i don't think it did us any harm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭qwerty ui op


    See

    See that's the problem, children have become like fragile ornaments. I mention a few smacks and you equate it to torture. No wonder kids Today are spoiled sh**ts.

    No I didn't I was pointing out how crazy this toughen them up thinking is...

    What have you seen in real life to make you think children are now like fragile ornaments ?

    What have you seen to make you believe children are spoiled?


  • Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Bitches Be Trypsin


    There's ways to discipline kids other than physically. Change the WiFi password, remove iPad/phone/Xbox whatever, make it a long time thing, Eg. A week. Longer lasting behavioural correction as opposed to a stinging arse for five minutes.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Children are funny wee yokes. My child would be exactly the kind of kid you could break wooden spoons on and he'd remain defiant, and become more badly behaved if you physically punished him. Change the wifi password or threaten to remove the bedtime story though and he's putty in my hands.

    Tbh, slapping kids is lazy or ignorant parenting IMO. My parents did it because looking back their parenting knowledge was limited to their own upbringings which were quite bleak and harsh. But when they saw their grandchildren being reared without getting slapped and turning out just as well as their parents did, they realised that there are other, more effective ways to discipline and correct poor behaviour, and mam has often said she wished she had the knowledge and resources back then that we have now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    Ah yeah, everyone not hitting their children is a mollycoddling left-wing socialist.

    If you can't raise your kids and discipline them without getting physical I feel really sorry for you.


    Every generation ever gave out about the kids of the following generations because they aren't as amazing as yourself.
    I'd say that today's kids are doing well. Most of them are pretty smart, compassionate and ambitious. Yes, there are a few outlaws but people are portraying that there are only marauding gangs of kids in restaurants (I genuinely couldn't tell you when the last time was misbehaved kids came to my attention in a restaurant). When I see kids throwing absolute millennium fits, pretty much all parents do something about it and it usually works.
    When mine misbehaves he gets the bollocking he deserves, there are thousands of ways to deal with bad behavior than giving them a smack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 299 ✭✭farmerwifelet


    I think parenting classes should be mandatory - and I don't mean the baby ones when you are expecting more on the lines of triple p parenting. Just because you can have a child doesn't automatically mean you know how to raise one!

    I think it would benefit parents and when they choose their own parenting style then fair enough but some basics would be great for all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I think parenting classes should be mandatory - and I don't mean the baby ones when you are expecting more on the lines of triple p parenting. Just because you can have a child doesn't automatically mean you know how to raise one!

    I think it would benefit parents and when they choose their own parenting style then fair enough but some basics would be great for all.

    So I could drop my kids to these classes and head out for a pint ?
    I like the way you're thinking.


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