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    #32
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    The big technical problem is that quoted posts contain the name and I believe that’s pretty much hard coded.

    Must be able to write a script that changes a username if found in the comments in the same thread in which that username has posted.

    Tbh this was always a problem and boards took the line of keeping old posts while making it obsolete by locking old threads.


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    #33
    Permabear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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    #34
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,726 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    As a lawyer who's also happily an expert on data protection, I don't see the issues as starkly as above or some of the other posts on this thread thus far.

    I've not been asked for my views and I await the official response as much as anyone else but I don't think the GDPR goes where many people seem to incorrectly, in my view, think it does.


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    #35
    Permabear
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    #36
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,726 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    They should have drafted the law in that way, if that's what they were aiming for.

    As it is, it's a swing and a miss. (In my view.)


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    #37
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    As a lawyer who's also happily an expert on data protection, I don't see the issues as starkly as above or some of the other posts on this thread thus far.

    I've not been asked for my views and I await the official response as much as anyone else but I don't think the GDPR goes where many people seem to incorrectly, in my view, think it does.

    I think people under-estimate how much you can build from disparate bits of information seemingly un-connected. People who are used to mining such information are perhaps more aware of it.


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    #38
    Steve
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    1984 is upon us... just a bit late.

    What happened to common sense?

    If you post stuff on the internet, you may as well spray paint it on the wall outside your house. Anyone that hasn't copped on to that in this day and age needs to be unplugged from the rest of the world.


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    #39
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I think its a little more nuanced than that. Companies (people) cant say they will use your data for one thing, then use it for another thing, or indeed keep it after its no longer needed for its original purpose.


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    #40
    Jeff2
    Registered Users Posts: 7,074 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Steve wrote: »
    1984 is upon us... just a bit late.

    What happened to common sense?

    If you post stuff on the internet, you may as well spray paint it on the wall outside your house. Anyone that hasn't copped on to that in this day and age needs to be unplugged from the rest of the world.
    Do you know any forum can hide a thread rather than lock it.
    Or just delete it.


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    #41
    Permabear
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    #42
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,726 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    What I've been driving clumsily at is that there is more nuance to it than absolute rights to x, y and z. There are, as always, competing rights of individuals, be they private individuals or corporate.


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    #43
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    What I've been driving clumsily at is that there is more nuance to it than absolute rights to x, y and z. There are, as always, competing rights of individuals, be they private individuals or corporate.

    That’s not saying very much. One thing is certain information shouldn’t be kept when an account is closed. The only reason boards would have to do that is to track old accounts. The only byudiness case they have got that is to ban re reg trolls. But that’s probably not enough.


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    #44
    Permabear
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    #46
    BowSideChamp
    Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭BowSideChamp


    Are PM's on boards.ie still sent via html, not through secure ssl? GDPR requires personal information to be encrypted. Surely there is sensitive information vulnerable.


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    #47
    Nody
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,311 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    ....... wrote: »
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    You are aware that the existing functions to be forgotten were set up with the approval of the Irish Data Protection Inspection, right? Hence they met all the requirements as they don't keep the personal data of a closed account; they get a hashtag number of the data which can only be used to check against another hashtag number to see if they match or not. Hence the e-mail address, name etc. are unknown when the closing of the account has happened and they can not go in and check if closed account Y has e-mail joe.blogs@gmail.com or joes.blogs@gmail.com any more.


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    #49
    Permabear
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    #50
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    "identifiable" is a game changer.

    Considering all the companies and technologies that string lots of snippets together to get meaningful data on people.


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    #51
    Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Employee Posts: 12,597 ✭✭✭✭✭Boards.ie: Niamh
    Boards.ie Community Manager


    We will always remove, if requested to, any identifying information that someone has posted either purposely or inadvertently - their real name, phone number, email address, Eircode, address, employers, etc. Often posts of this nature are reported by other eagle-eyed users, however occasionally someone will contact us about a post they made in their distant past with their mobile number or something similar and ask us to remove it. It is never an issue to edit or remove these posts and this has always been the case.

    It's interesting to hear the different interpretations of the legislation and it'll also be interesting to see how it will shape things for the future for the internet/companies in general, not just us.

    As Mark and dudara posted on Friday, we will have an announcement about this soon after we have received all legal advice.

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    #52
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Nody wrote: »
    You are aware that the existing functions to be forgotten were set up with the approval of the Irish Data Protection Inspection, right? Hence they met all the requirements as they don't keep the personal data of a closed account; they get a hashtag number of the data which can only be used to check against another hashtag number to see if they match or not. Hence the e-mail address, name etc. are unknown when the closing of the account has happened and they can not go in and check if closed account Y has e-mail joe.blogs@gmail.com or joes.blogs@gmail.com any more.

    They must be tracking multiple ip addresses because they can link accounts. We can’t reuse email accounts. I’ve changed isp 3 times in 3 years and I believe I’ve also changed house or country since I started posting. I have 3 old accounts and a mod banned me for a day recently due to my record in old accounts despite no previous infraction in this one in that forum.

    How does that linking work? Can’t be a hash of all the dara since some of the data changed.


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    #53
    Permabear
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    #55
    Boards.ie: Niamh
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    Boards.ie Community Manager


    ....... wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    They can be but not immediately. For example, if you were to close your account today and then decided to open a new account the following day, you cannot reuse the same email address. It will still be associated with the closed account for a specific period of time in a hashed version on our servers. However, it is no longer visible to staff or admins from the moment you've closed the account. The hashed version of the email address is deleted after a certain amount of time and could be reused at that point. To the best of my recollection that period of time is either 30 or 40 days but I'd have to check that. That is the current situation.

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    #56
    _Dara_
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    Permabear wrote: »
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    I'm not sure about this. There are many 10+ year posters here who have written a lot about their lives but yet what they have written is pretty generic and I have no idea who they are despite all that they have written.

    The people I have successfully identified have tended to be people who couple this generic information with clues to their real name in their username. Without that, it becomes much harder.


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    #57
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I have identified people simply because their adverts username is similar to their boards, and when you look at the two together, it became obvious from what they were selling who they were, in conjunction with what they posted. I only stumbled across them looking for something else.


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    #58
    Permabear
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    #59
    Chorus_suck
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    #60
    Soulsun
    Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Soulsun


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Any legal eagle's or gdpr experts out there?

    I suspect boards will back down completely.


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    Permabear
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