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Eir rural FTTH thread II
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Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »The pay per install is a terrible model for this project as there is no incentive for the installer to tackle any issues when he can gamble that the next install will be hassle free. If they were on a daily wage they might be more inclined to do more to complete jobs.
Agree but I see the business need - get the easy ones through, get the numbers and resolve the problem ones over time.
Not a good experience for people who have issues but once your connected thats it. I'd say they tut when they see a duct install on their job list and jump on the overhead jobs
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Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »You bought, borrowed or rented? Had you spliced fibre before? Could you not just have bought a long pre-made cable online?
Borrowed, had used one before but not extensively - it isn't hard to splice one you have the right tools and someone willing to teach you how, you'd be splicing on your own in 30min.
During my house build I had a notion before the slabs went up in the house to run fiber optic cable so I wrangled a long run of it (goes up the internal of a gable wall, across the house and down the other gable. Terminated that into patch panels, reworked one strand to APC-SC.
The only future proofing which panned out so far in the house
Long pre-made would have only worked if I went outside with it and that would have been more hassle.0 -
Johnboy1951 wrote: »In my case the blockage was not on my property at all.
That did not stop me digging, accessing their chamber and clearing the blockage - although not supposed to access their chamber - because of their incompetence. Else it would continue (based on experience) to be failed installs.
They should thank me and give me a discount for saving them money on failed installs!
they might offer you a job working with the team lol 0 -
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Borrowed, had used one before but not extensively - it isn't hard to splice one you have the right tools and someone willing to teach you how, you'd be splicing on your own in 30min.
During my house build I had a notion before the slabs went up in the house to run fiber optic cable so I wrangled a long run of it (goes up the internal of a gable wall, across the house and down the other gable. Terminated that into patch panels, reworked one strand to APC-SC.
The only future proofing which panned out so far in the house
Long pre-made would have only worked if I went outside with it and that would have been more hassle.
seen one of those clever yokes in action on youtube i think - are they the ones with the lcd panel and you close the lid and it does a little graphic as it splices it all together?0 -
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Changes coming to the wholesale connection fee from Jan 1st next year.
In last year's Comreg's consultation on the pricing of wholesale local access one of the issues raised was the wholesale connection fee and the burden this placed on the first retailer that provides to a FTTH connection to a property, the full cost of the wholesale connection fee to open-eir. If the householder changes provider after the initial contract period the subsidised cost of a connection may not be fully recovered by the first provider and any subsequent provider will not pay a connection fee.
Open-eir is proposing to change this from next Jan to a Reimbursement Model with connection and reimbursement fees for retailers over a 20 year period. It will be based a sliding scale where the initial or previous provider will be reimbursed part of their connection fee and the new provider paying that same amount as a wholesale connection fee.
The new initial wholesale connection fee will be €294. They are also introducing a wholesale FTTH cessation / connection charge of €5 from the same date, this is in addition to the to the above connection fee.
Under the Reimbursement Model in Table 1, which applies to cessations or connections on FTTH lines (paths) which were first provisioned after the effective date (01/01/2019), the contribution by the retail operator is protected.
a. At initial connection, the first retail operator (Operator 1) is charged the fee for an ONT installed by open eir.
b. Operator 1’s contribution is protected, on a depreciating basis, for 20 years.
c. In the case that the customer transfers to another retail operator or ceases service:
i. The losing operator receives a reimbursement amount from open eir, calculated at a rate against the standard connection fee, the date of cessation and the date of completion of the initial connection. e.g. a cessation 30 months after the initial connection date will receive the Year 2 Reimbursement Amount
ii. A gaining operator pays a connection fee based on the connection charge in Table 1 based on the initial connection date and fee. E.g. a connection 40 months after an initial connection will attract a Year 3 connection charge.
iii. The balance of the 20 year protection transfers to the gaining operator.
d. The reimbursement amount and connection fees are calculated based on a rate, aligned to the number of completed years since the line was first connected.
e. The reimbursement rates recognise the time the first operator invests in managing the customer through the initial connection appointments etc. For this reason, the reimbursement rates in the Year 0 and Year 1 are higher than the initial connection fee.
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