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Eir rural FTTH thread II
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Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »They are back up. It was a security cert issue.
Hah... Good thing it didn't take them 10 years to fix that like with UG
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Hah... Good thing it didn't take them 10 years to fix that like with UG
/M
LMAO You would think at this stage that no matter what reference you put in to it it would recognise the format of the reference and say hey I know what they are looking for - no, you have to remember which of the dozen links to click0 -
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Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »Not wishing to accuse you of stupidity but have you checked your friends Eircode on
http://www.airwire.ie/avail
Is seems unusual that their premises is passed but they cannot order. If that is the case they must have a long entrance leaving the premises far from the distribution point.
Yes entrance road is ~200 meters.Also, multi-mode fibre is limited to 300m. Bad choice.
Single mode, outdoor fibre is what you want for this job.
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I'm a network engineer. It's 200 meters and I'm donating the fiber, switches/router/APs and my fiber termination services as a birthday present
Working with what I've got, so the options are the multimode (ducted) or an intermediate switch at the stables (which would allow the option of adding an AP down there (there is PoE on one of my spare small switches)).Airwire have had some success at adding extra buildings in this situation I believe so try contacting them.As said the stable is not possible only a building with an Eircode will work, you may need to lay ducting from the road to your house. Usually a simple enough job but you have to pay for it.
Airwire's availability checker said no for my friend's eircode, but yes for the houses across the road and either side of the entrance gate. I'll contact them to see if they can help, they were going to be the preferred ISP anyway if we did get this running.
Just to clarify (using a google streetview image from 10 years ago), the pole on the left is providing FTTH service for the neighbor... and the pole on the right is inside my friend's entrance. That's their current copper line.
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Yes entrance road is ~200 meters.
I'm a network engineer. It's 200 meters and I'm donating the fiber, switches/router/APs and my fiber termination services as a birthday present
Working with what I've got, so the options are the multimode (ducted) or an intermediate switch at the stables (which would allow the option of adding an AP down there (there is PoE on one of my spare small switches)).
Airwire's availability checker said no for my friend's eircode, but yes for the houses across the road and either side of the entrance gate. I'll contact them to see if they can help, they were going to be the preferred ISP anyway if we did get this running.
Just to clarify (using a google streetview image from 10 years ago), the pole on the left is providing FTTH service for the neighbor... and the pole on the right is inside my friend's entrance. That's their current copper line.
It wouldn't surprise me if OE get too intransigent about this sort of situation, if some people were to resort to subterfuge - like asking a neighbour who doesn't know what the internet is, nor want it, if, for a suitable inducement, they would mind lending their house for a morning and having fibre installed. Of course after the KN van disappears up the road, the elves get to work and uninstall everything and move it elsewhere.0 -
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In your expert opinion, is there anything the ISPs could be doing in the sales process to prepare the user for not being able to actually see the speed they have ordered?
i.e. due to WiFi bottleneck, slower devices, slower servers
As a consumer, with no industry knowledge, the only way that would suit me as a consumer, would be to have the router show in a display what the connected speed is.
Rebooting the router should cause it to display anew.
No doubt it would also get rid of the need for support staff suggesting things to do to diagnose a possible wifi problem.
On the other hand maybe that info could be used against the provider 0 -
Johnboy1951 wrote: »As a consumer, with no industry knowledge, the only way that would suit me as a consumer, would be to have the router show in a display what the connected speed is.
Rebooting the router should cause it to display anew.
No doubt it would also get rid of the need for support staff suggesting things to do to diagnose a possible wifi problem.
On the other hand maybe that info could be used against the provider
The Ubiquiti ONTs actually do that. Though I am hesitant to bring third party ONTs into discussion!
https://www.ubnt.com/ufiber/ufiber-nano-g/0 -
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Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »True. I think as FTTH becomes more common the obsession with speedtests will hopefully wane. I think oscarBravo said it before but people don't have the same inclination to constantly measure their ESB voltage. It just works and people take it for granted.
There is a guarantee regarding voltage and frequency of the elec supply.
and yes I have had occasion to measure it in the past when I suspected it was not up to standard.
Broadband supply has never ever approached such a guarantee, nor been able to, whether xDSL or FWA, so people had to check themselves if a problem arose.
With FTTH that necessity for checking should reduce considerably, but not completely, as faults can occur and the result is not like an elec interruption where you can check with neighbours if their supply has also dropped and know if it is just your own supply or a more general fault.
So yes, IMO, an indication/display on the provider equipment, to show the connection speed would be a huge step forward.
I don't expect to see it in my lifetime
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Johnboy1951 wrote: »There is a guarantee regarding voltage and frequency of the elec supply.
and yes I have had occasion to measure it in the past when I suspected it was not up to standard.
Broadband supply has never ever approached such a guarantee, nor been able to, whether xDSL or FWA, so people had to check themselves if a problem arose.
With FTTH that necessity for checking should reduce considerably, but not completely, as faults can occur and the result is not like an elec interruption where you can check with neighbours if their supply has also dropped and know if it is just your own supply or a more general fault.
So yes, IMO, an indication/display on the provider equipment, to show the connection speed would be a huge step forward.
I don't expect to see it in my lifetime
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The problem is, that most people are not network engineers (which is fine, of course), and have no idea how to test broadband supply properly. Like using speedtest.net over WiFi, for instance. This tests
- device
- WiFi medium (channel/environment/activity of neighbours' networks at that moment if overlapping)
- router CPU
- broadband
You can't test four systems together and regard it as an empirical test of one of them.
Most people think WiFi is broadband and vice versa.
So maybe some kind of inbuilt test on a router would help. The only way to do this though would be to have an iPerf server inside every ISPs border for testing their network (not upstream) and for the CPE router to be powerful enough to run a TCP iPerf session. With say 20 parallel streams and display the result somewhere shiny for the user.
I can't see this ever happening.0 -
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