Eir rural FTTH thread II

tsue921i8wljb3

ED E wrote: »

IrishHomer reported Sky D2D sales active in his area. Im pretty sure its not just Eir retail using them.


We dont know what the retail breakdown is like but if I had to bet Eir would be the largest OE-FTTH retailer but not the majority.

I'd like to take that wager. I'd guess at >60% eir connections. This forum badly represents the general populations knowledge of other ISPs.

Andy From Sligo

ED E wrote: »

*waits for andy to dismantle his ONT to see the magic smoke inside*

ah no - i will leave well alone

i will have to box it all in though one day, hate all these leads and everything showing . looks untidy

Andy From Sligo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

What did the installer do with the copper cable he pulled out?

I understood they were not allowed to interfere with that.

Glad you finally got sorted!

put it back i suppose - it was never ever connected / live in this house ever anyway the PSTN line. just went into the chamber connected to ... er nothing!

tsue921i8wljb3

Good to see you finally connected Andy. It's been some journey!

Andy From Sligo

Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »

Good to see you finally connected Andy. It's been some journey!

really has, hasnt it - there were really times i thought it had been abandoned altogether to be honest. Thats how it kind of gets you, all the DP's and cabling put up a year ago and then coming to a full stop like that.

Andy From Sligo

Just been doing a couple of speedtest using fast.com speed checker with this 150mbps package (150/30) - this is wireless connection with a N adaptor in my win7 laptop and the Fritz! router

Theoretically 2.4Ghz will give you 450 Mbps or 600 Mbps under 2.4ghz
when I connect through 2.4 connection and do 3 speed tests I am getting:

test 1.) 68mbps
test 2.) 79mbps
test 3.) 79mbps

and 25mbps upload

then when I switch to 5Ghz :

test 1.) 110mbps
test 2.) 120mbps
test 3.) 150mbps

upload 23mbps / 23mbps / 28mbps


I dont mind because I am blown away at present with speed - but just wondering why such a big diffrence between connected at 2.4ghz and 5ghz ?

and especially if you can get up to 450 Mbps or 600 Mbps speed on 2.4ghz , why am I getting the figure of 68-79mbps

any ideas please?

cnocbui

The higher the frequency, the greater the bandwidth.
C(bps) = 2B * log2M (Nyquist): https://mason.gmu.edu/~rmorika2/Noise__Data_Rate_and_Frequency_Bandwidth.htm

tuxy

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

and especially if you can get up to 450 Mbps or 600 Mbps speed on 2.4ghz , why am I getting the figure of 68-79mbps

Only with the correct WIFI card and router are speeds even close to that possible in the real world on 802.11 n.

Most laptop come with a very cheap WIFI adaptor.

I don't understand why you are running speed tests when you want to check wifi connection speed.

Just bring up this window or download apps that can give you even more wifi data.

babi-hrse

Glad you got sorted you may be occasionally a wind up artist but you truly suffered waiting for fibre.
The thing he was using to find your copper line was a tone and probe. One end makes the copper sing the other end is basically an antanne and speaker that can hear it without physically touching the copper. Every house should have one. Differences between 2.4ghz and 5ghz think of an accordion when it's compressed and the slats are closer together it's more dense (more bandwidth in a given space) tradeoff is range. 2.4ghz would be akin to pulling the accordion apart more distance but less dense (less bandwidth in a given space)
That's a really simplistic view of it but probably the easiest way to visualise the difference.

Marlow

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Just been doing a couple of speedtest using fast.com speed checker

That there .. that's your problem.

fast.com and the google speedtest are rubbish . They do not report proper figures most of the time.

Use Mozilla Firefox, do the speedtest on speedtest.net and make sure to select either the Blacknight (Carlow), Airwire (Galway) or Northwest Broadband (Sligo) Speedtest server.

Other servers may not have enough bandwidth themselves.

If you do anything else, you add a ton of variables. And yes .. you will probably never max the line on 2.4 GHz.

/M

tsue921i8wljb3

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Just been doing a couple of speedtest using fast.com speed checker with this 150mbps package (150/30) - this is wireless connection with a N adaptor in my win7 laptop and the Fritz! router

Theoretically 2.4Ghz will give you 450 Mbps or 600 Mbps under 2.4ghz
when I connect through 2.4 connection and do 3 speed tests I am getting:

test 1.) 68mbps
test 2.) 79mbps
test 3.) 79mbps

and 25mbps upload

then when I switch to 5Ghz :

test 1.) 110mbps
test 2.) 120mbps
test 3.) 150mbps

upload 23mbps / 23mbps / 28mbps


I dont mind because I am blown away at present with speed - but just wondering why such a big diffrence between connected at 2.4ghz and 5ghz ?

and especially if you can get up to 450 Mbps or 600 Mbps speed on 2.4ghz , why am I getting the figure of 68-79mbps

any ideas please?

http://www.mcsindex.com

Both sides of the link i.e. router and laptop have to support 450Mb. It's likely your laptop does not.

Andy From Sligo

tuxy wrote: »

Only with the correct WIFI card and router are speeds even close to that possible in the real world on 802.11 n.

Most laptop come with a very cheap WIFI adaptor.

I don't understand why you are running speed tests when you want to check wifi connection speed.

Just bring up this window or download apps that can give you even more wifi data.

Yes of course why didnt I check the speed from the laptop mto the router .. anyway just checked it now:

5ghz = 162.0mbps and 2.4ghz= 130.0mbps

oh yeah and its a A/B/G/N adaptor in this ol laptop no 802.11AC (might even be a pre-N in it)

Marlow

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Yes of course why didnt I check the speed from the laptop mto the router .. anyway just checked it now:

5ghz = 162.0mbps and 2.4ghz= 130.0mbps

oh yeah and its a A/B/G/N adaptor in this ol laptop no 802.11AC (might even be a pre-N in it)

And those are raw speeds.

So your tcp throughput is lower.

/M

Andy From Sligo

Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »

www.mcsindex.com

Both sides of the link i.e. router and laptop have to support 450Mb. It's likely your laptop does not.

true , its a trusty ol HP probook laptop with windows 7 - I should upgrade it to a new laptop but i cannot bring myself to part with this trusty one LOL

tsue921i8wljb3

Did the installer use your massive hole Andy?

Andy From Sligo

Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »

Did the installer use your massive hole Andy?

haha yeah - and he filed it for me afterwards if u get my drift :eek:

Johnboy1951

Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »

Did the installer use your massive hole Andy?

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

haha yeah - and he filed it for me afterwards if u get my drift :eek:

Nice of him to plug it for you!

A+-Guru

hahahaahha

Andy From Sligo

he actually went better and complimented me on my hole ....

tuxy

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

he actually went better and complimented me on my hole ....

Was he happy that your hole was all prepped and ready for action when he arrived?

tuxy

Actually serious question.

Did you get a chance to ask him about the very long delay with your area going live?

Andy From Sligo

tuxy wrote: »

Actually serious question.

Did you get a chance to ask him about the very long delay with your area going live?

ya - i cant remember tho what the answer was .. bloody memory

tuxy

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

ya - i cant remember tho what the answer was .. bloody memory

Is your day to day life similar to the main guy in the movie Memento? :P

MBSnr

tuxy wrote: »

Is your day to day life similar to the main guy in the movie Memento? :P

Andy can't remember...

Andy From Sligo

tuxy wrote: »

Is your day to day life similar to the main guy in the movie Memento? :P

i cant remember if i have seen it

I should download it now I have fast internet

- shame I cannot upgrade my mind with fibre I feel like i am running at 3mbps most days

Andy From Sligo

Hello all - what speed checkers are people on here using these days on FTTH for accuracy ?

Heres 3 ones that i know of I tried one after the other with differing results:

www.fast.com



www.speedtest.net




speedtest.googlefiber.net/




and I was also wondering what has happened to all the Sligo servers now on speedtest.net now - I couldnt find any ?

Andy From Sligo

I'm sure I am not dreaming this - I am pretty sure I see the installer put the end of the fibre cable after he stripped it into his mouth and lick it before putting the connector on

why ? - is it to clean it? - i mean he did have some alcohol wipes as well and wiped the fibre with them - is this an 'in-trade' secret to getting a good connection the licking of it?

brianbruff

anyone else on gigabit on the fedamore exchange?

brianbruff

i found fast .com lies to me at gigabit speeds
usually use speedtest.net,
sometimes i use public cloud servers i own

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Hello all - what speed checkers are people on here using these days on FTTH for accuracy ?

Heres 3 ones that i know of I tried one after the other with differing results:

www.fast.com



www.speedtest.net




speedtest.googlefiber.net/




and I was also wondering what has happened to all the Sligo servers now on speedtest.net now - I couldnt find any ?

MBSnr

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

I'm sure I am not dreaming this - I am pretty sure I see the installer put the end of the fibre cable after he stripped it into his mouth and lick it before putting the connector on

why ? - is it to clean it? - i mean he did have some alcohol wipes as well and wiped the fibre with them - is this an 'in-trade' secret to getting a good connection the licking of it?

You sure this wasn't the short linking other fibre with the pre-mouded connector and he was just removing the dust cover with his teeth? I'm sure the single SC connector has a dust cover similar to the LC ones I use at work. There are tiny white end caps on the LC ones at least.