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Eir rural FTTH thread II

Marlow · 2018-02-15 00:55:59

Because they don't want to invalidate their copper infrastructure. And well, it does indeed cut down on civils, cable replacement, investment in dense populated areas. A lot of those areas would also have underground cabling. Often with blocked ducts etc. Thats even more costly. Running fiber overhead on poles is…

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#10142 16-10-2019 2:51pm
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Still waiting myself.

2 months on after ordering with Vodafone and OpenEir came out themselves for the first time to have a look why it could't be done from the 3 previous visits. Guy arrived and found trees trimmed, ducts cleared, and a new draw rope installed. They seem like they're moving the DP now, so another month or 2 for that and then however long it takes for the install visit.

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#10143 16-10-2019 3:13pm
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riggerman wrote: »

From Discover on Google https://www.independent.ie/business/technology/sky-settles-high-court-case-with-telecoms-regulator-over-eir-broadband-costs-38601408.html

In other words, SKY were trying it on, but have been seen off.

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#10144 16-10-2019 4:50pm
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cnocbui wrote: »

In other words, SKY were trying it on, but have been seen off.

They settled so Sky must have got what they wanted. Its the consumer that ends up paying the 170 euro everytime they switch provider is the problem here. It doesn't reflect the actual cost of installation.

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#10145 16-10-2019 4:52pm
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Sky poaching customers and not wanting to cover the cost to openeir for the installation is a related issue.

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#10146 16-10-2019 5:49pm
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recyclebin wrote: »

They settled so Sky must have got what they wanted. Its the consumer that ends up paying the 170 euro everytime they switch provider is the problem here. It doesn't reflect the actual cost of installation.

The average cost of installations is well known.
Each user should have to pay that in increments as they switch provider.
There should be a running balance showing what has been paid by the customer and also what has been contributed by the ISP.

Once the total has been paid there should be no further charge (except the real cost of <€3.

I guess this would be just too simple and open for the likes of ComReg, and instead they arrange for the customer to be screwed.

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#10147 16-10-2019 8:22pm
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recyclebin wrote: »

They settled so Sky must have got what they wanted. Its the consumer that ends up paying the 170 euro everytime they switch provider is the problem here. It doesn't reflect the actual cost of installation.

Got what they wanted? Seen any announcement dropping the €170 switching fee?

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#10148 19-10-2019 10:19am
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https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiS2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnJ0ZS5pZS9uZXdzL2J1c2luZXNzLzIwMTkvMTAxNy8xMDg0MDE1LWVpci1yZXZhbXBlZC10di1zZXJ2aWNlL9IBH2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnJ0ZS5pZS9hbXAvMTA4NDAxNS8?hl=en-IE&gl=IE&ceid=IE%3Aen

Eir have changed the f2000 since Thursday and I think they're using f3000 the TV portion will now be posted out to the customer in the form of appletv app downloaded then pulls credentials from modem
Homeplugs no longer needed and wiring no longer needed

Vodafone is likely to start posting out gigabox modems sh3000
Pure have added f2000 to their range

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#10149 19-10-2019 12:45pm
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babi-hrse wrote: »

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiS2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnJ0ZS5pZS9uZXdzL2J1c2luZXNzLzIwMTkvMTAxNy8xMDg0MDE1LWVpci1yZXZhbXBlZC10di1zZXJ2aWNlL9IBH2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnJ0ZS5pZS9hbXAvMTA4NDAxNS8?hl=en-IE&gl=IE&ceid=IE%3Aen
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Surely ,everyone has appleTV 4k STB. What of bunch of ....They could just add support for SMART TV (Samsung, LG etc) instead.
Eir Sports APP so pathetic ...never worked well for me.

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#10150 19-10-2019 1:50pm
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babi-hrse wrote: »

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMiS2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnJ0ZS5pZS9uZXdzL2J1c2luZXNzLzIwMTkvMTAxNy8xMDg0MDE1LWVpci1yZXZhbXBlZC10di1zZXJ2aWNlL9IBH2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnJ0ZS5pZS9hbXAvMTA4NDAxNS8?hl=en-IE&gl=IE&ceid=IE%3Aen
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Surely ,everyone has appleTV 4k STB. What of bunch of ....They could just add support for SMART TV (Samsung, LG etc) instead.
Eir Sports APP so pathetic ...never worked well for me.

I thought that too, but if you read the article you would have noted the bit where an TV is supplied free, with one years TV subscription included I love the bit about €9.99 for each additional room...

So €80 a month for FTTH, €20 for Eir TV, and another €5 for TV+. Only €1,260 a year. €1380 if you add another room.

In a word - no.

Anyone know if you can cancel FTTH and reactivate the copper to go back to slow ADSL? I'm about to get the €30 bump to €80 a month.

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#10151 19-10-2019 2:06pm
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cnocbui wrote: »

Anyone know if you can cancel FTTH and reactivate the copper to go back to slow ADSL? I'm about to get the €30 bump to €80 a month.

Wouldnt you just switch to another reseller? Plenty of them around the €50 mark for FTTH in the first year.

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#10152 19-10-2019 2:10pm
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dam099 wrote: »

Wouldnt you just switch to another reseller? Plenty of them around the €50 mark for FTTH in the first year.

I'll probably do that - €170 to switch, though.

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#10153 19-10-2019 2:15pm
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cnocbui wrote: »

I'll probably do that - €170 to switch, though.

€170 is the fee charged to the ISP by open eir. As far as I know none of them then pass the full amount on to the customer. Digiweb, for example, seems to be €49.95 activation fee.

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#10154 19-10-2019 2:33pm
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Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »

€170 is the fee charged to the ISP by open eir. As far as I know none of them then pass the full amount on to the customer. Digiweb, for example, seems to be €49.95 activation fee.

In addition, last time I checked, Airwire, if you take an 18 month contract, had a €0 charge to switch.

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#10155 19-10-2019 3:17pm
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Johnboy1951 wrote: »

In addition, last time I checked, Airwire, if you take an 18 month contract, had a €0 charge to switch.

Yup, that's what I was just about to recommend. 18 month contract, free switch and €50 a month with no change to price after the contract is up.
I'm with them almost two months now and very happy.

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#10156 19-10-2019 3:50pm
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How do I cancel with Eir? My contract was up on the 8th of this month. Can they roll you into a new contract automatically? Is their a cooling off period for the rollover if so?

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#10157 19-10-2019 4:06pm
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After your contract is over it's one month roll overs. It should be just as easy as giving your UAN to the new provider, that's all I did.
You will have two UAN's one for VOIP and one for broadband which you can see on myeir, make sure you give the broadband UAN.

Of course it's Eir and while the UAN system should be foolproof you do have to be careful they don't try to overcharge you.
You pay one month in advance with Eir so you should owe them nothing after a switch using UAN.

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#10158 19-10-2019 4:44pm
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cnocbui wrote: »

How do I cancel with Eir? My contract was up on the 8th of this month. Can they roll you into a new contract automatically? Is their a cooling off period for the rollover if so?

This is how I did my DSL/Landline recently and is going ok so far.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111455725&postcount=31

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#10159 20-10-2019 11:11am
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cnocbui wrote: »

How do I cancel with Eir? My contract was up on the 8th of this month. Can they roll you into a new contract automatically? Is their a cooling off period for the rollover if so?

I just ordered FTTH with Digiweb and they cancelled my Eir account automatically the day the Digiweb connection went live. I got a cheque refund in the post from Eir a few days later, for I presume the paid in advance and unused part of my last month. I never had to contact Eir at all. In fairness to all the horror stories I’ve heard about Eir here I never had one reason to complain in 6 years. I was lucky I guess. Have to also say the process of ordering and setting up with Digiweb was also hassle free.

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#10160 21-10-2019 12:07pm
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babi-hrse wrote: »

Eir have changed the f2000 since Thursday and I think they're using f3000 the TV portion will now be posted out to the customer in the form of appletv app downloaded then pulls credentials from modem
Homeplugs no longer needed and wiring no longer needed

Vodafone is likely to start posting out gigabox modems sh3000
Pure have added f2000 to their range

Do you know the Huewai model number of the new eir modem?

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#10161 21-10-2019 8:09pm
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hopefully the new Eir modem has a more stable and better wifi signal.

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#10162 21-10-2019 8:25pm
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No info about it online yet. Does anyone have an idea which re-branded router it will be?

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#10163 21-10-2019 8:56pm
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tuxy wrote: »

After your contract is over it's one month roll overs. It should be just as easy as giving your UAN to the new provider, that's all I did.
You will have two UAN's one for VOIP and one for broadband which you can see on myeir, make sure you give the broadband UAN.

Of course it's Eir and while the UAN system should be foolproof you do have to be careful they don't try to overcharge you.
You pay one month in advance with Eir so you should owe them nothing after a switch using UAN.

Thanks all. I have gone with Airwire, though it was a close thing with Sky.

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#10164 21-10-2019 8:59pm
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cnocbui wrote: »

Thanks all. I have gone with Airwire, though it was a close thing with Sky.

A lucky escape some would say.....

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#10165 21-10-2019 9:10pm
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I never had a problem with Sky for broadband or Eir for Fibre. Sky are €120 cheaper over an initial 12 months, if one wants to switcheroo every year.

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#10166 21-10-2019 9:12pm
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cnocbui wrote: »

I never had a problem with Sky for broadband or Eir for Fibre. Sky are €120 cheaper over an initial 12 months, if one wants to switcheroo every year.

And airwire are cheaper if you go with the 18 month contract?

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#10167 21-10-2019 9:36pm
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Yeah, then they are €38 cheaper, and even more so going forward.

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#10168 21-10-2019 9:38pm
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cnocbui wrote: »

Yeah, then they are €38 cheaper, and even more so going forward.

Yeah just checking it now. Sky have changed prices since I last looked. €35 a month for 12 months and only €50 to switch. They have to be losing money at that price, I wonder how they plan on retaining customers as that's the only thing that would make it viable.

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#10169 21-10-2019 9:38pm
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Gonzo wrote: »

hopefully the new Eir modem has a more stable and better wifi signal.

I was driving through Dunshaughlin today and noticed that open eir have ducting for fibre installed on some poles in the town (beside the cemetery). The urban build must have started. It's going to be a very well connected place in a short while!

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#10170 21-10-2019 9:40pm
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Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »

I was driving through Dunshaughlin today and noticed that open eir have ducting for fibre installed on some poles in the town (beside the cemetery). The urban build must have started. It's going to be a very well connected place in a short while!

There was one poster claiming at least six months ago that it had started inside Thurles town. Not confirmed though.

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#10171 21-10-2019 9:40pm
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Dominique Loud Waistband wrote: »

I was driving through Dunshaughlin today and noticed that open eir have ducting for fibre installed on some poles in the town (beside the cemetery). The urban build must have started. It's going to be a very well connected place in a short while!

I noticed that too. I also saw them in one of the estates today, manholes open and lots of cones forcing people to walk on the opposite side of the road.

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