Eir rural FTTH thread II

fritzelly

Marlow wrote: »

It will be interesting. Because so far, they're the ones that are taking the biggest p*** with being the only ones automatically charging when going over the cap (apart from mobile providers of course), well hiding the fact that they do and not rewarding loyal customers at all with their staggered pricing structure.

Nevermind the quality of their customer service, their service technically and their track record on over charging.

/M

Well not anymore - was really only a matter of time, can't offer 1Gb download and limit it to 1Tb - bit ridiculous really. They were still living in the annuls of history when download traffic used to be fairly expensive but it's cheap as chips now.
Re mobiles - big boost on data caps

fritzelly

Shiner1888 wrote: »

Just found out they are connecting FTTH in our area since Monday last, all be it 3 miles away from here.
It does state on AirWire that connection date is 8/8/2018 but they are obviously working a few weeks in advance.
Does Eir contact me now or what is the process?
I did contact Eir on the 3rd of July and they told me it would be the second half of 2018 and to keep an eye on their website for updates.

Thankfully I found this chat and the members have more knowledge that Eir employees seem to have.

OE will release "live" data about a month beforehand but can be many things not really live like DP not live etc. So don't hold your breath expecting it all to work on that date.
Usually eir send sales guys around the time of OE saying its going live.

Airwire: MartinL

Shiner1888 wrote: »

Just found out they are connecting FTTH in our area since Monday last, all be it 3 miles away from here.
It does state on AirWire that connection date is 8/8/2018 but they are obviously working a few weeks in advance.
Does Eir contact me now or what is the process?
I did contact Eir on the 3rd of July and they told me it would be the second half of 2018 and to keep an eye on their website for updates.

If you've ordered with Airwire, it will have nothing to do with Eir. Airwire is an OpenEIR wholesales partner. The same as Eir. So we can provide the same physical connection to your home as Eir, but are a completely different internet provider.

So once you have placed your order, Airwire gets OpenEIR to install your FTTH connection. KN will come out do the physical work. Once that's done, you only have to deal with the provider, that you ordered with.

Marlow

fritzelly wrote: »

Well not anymore - was really only a matter of time, can't offer 1Gb download and limit it to 1Tb - bit ridiculous really. They were still living in the annuls of history when download traffic used to be fairly expensive but it's cheap as chips now.
Re mobiles - big boost on data caps

A limit that low is ridiculous on 1 Gbit/s agreed. And the charge for traffic afterwards that is comparable pricewise, what mobile broadband providers charge is even more ridiculous.

We'll see, what happens.

/M

Shiner1888

Airwire: MartinL wrote: »

If you've ordered with Airwire, it will have nothing to do with Eir. Airwire is an OpenEIR wholesales partner. The same as Eir. So we can provide the same physical connection to your home as Eir, but are a completely different internet provider.

So once you have placed your order, Airwire gets OpenEIR to install your FTTH connection. KN will come out do the physical work. Once that's done, you only have to deal with the provider, that you ordered with.

Yea KN is doing the physical work, I need to get on the ball tomorrow then.

With the news of better prices coming out tomorrow AirWire will have to compete ;-)

KOR101

fritzelly wrote: »

Well not anymore - was really only a matter of time, can't offer 1Gb download and limit it to 1Tb - bit ridiculous really. They were still living in the annuls of history when download traffic used to be fairly expensive but it's cheap as chips now.
Re mobiles - big boost on data caps

Yes, 36 hours in on SIRO and already over 330gb.

Marlow

KOR101 wrote: »

Yes, 36 hours in on SIRO and already over 330gb.

The joys of getting fiber. Until the hard drives are full

/M

fritzelly

KOR101 wrote: »

Yes, 36 hours in on SIRO and already over 330gb.

There isn't that much **** in the world - what are you downloading?

Marlow

fritzelly wrote: »

There isn't that much **** in the world - what are you downloading?

Ah here. All he needs to do is to sign up for an old fashioned news (NNTP) sub that includes binaries and has no limit, install sabnzbd, sickbeard and couchpotato.

He can pretty much be downloading at full throttle for days then without moving another finger.

/M

KOR101

fritzelly wrote: »

There isn't that much **** in the world - what are you downloading?

Not just downloading, repairing some ratios.

fritzelly

KOR101 wrote: »

Not just downloading, repairing some ratios.

LMAO!!!

Did star out what is probably obvious after remembering this is not AH

KOR101

fritzelly wrote: »

LMAO!!!

Did star out what is probably obvious after remembering this is not AH

Bluray of a 5 episode German TV series .....125Gb. Single 1080i rugby match ....19gb. Are you still on SD?

ninja 12

KOR101 wrote: »

Bluray of a 5 episode German TV series .....125Gb. Single 1080i rugby match ....19gb. Are you still on SD?

Hehe , it's amazing /frightening how quickly the usage racks up

Even aside from watching movies/tv from "unofficial" sources , games and general streaming uses a fair bit .

For example , I've a brother in law who will quite happily sit watching youtube 24/7 when they visit , with the quality settings turned up full .


My wife and I regularly use the All4 app ( legally , it's not geoblocked in Ireland ) built into the TV in the sitting room to watch the Walter Presents foreign dramas .


Steam and other game services are also unreal .


For example -

I only got Eir Fibre Extreme 300 installed in the middle of May .


During the recent Steam sale I bought and downloaded three games .


Thief (25GB)

Watch_Dogs 2 (34GB)

Quantum Break (75GB)


Aside from the initial downloads , (which didn't take 5days + , like it used to ) Quantum Break streams a large portion of the content (high quality cutscenes / mini movies ) that was another 50-75 GB on top of the initial download .

So between those three games alone , that was over 200 GB


Plus I get game updates nearly every time I launch Steam .


A cap of 1 TB is really restrictive on a fibre connection .

ninja 12

I've just looked at the Eir site .

It now says "no usage caps "



When I log in , there's no usage stats anymore . There was yesterday .

Please let it be true :D

Johnboy1951

fritzelly wrote: »

Across both and some (very) good prices arriving tomorrow as well
eir seem to be going full on against the competition

Prices have changed today as promised

150Mb bundle
Was
€45 for 6 months, then €50 for 6 months and €81 thereafter

Now
€45.99 for 12 months and €65.99 thereafter
Only off-peak calls to Irish landline now whereas previously there was
Unlimited calls to Irish and UK landlines and mobiles.

I did not check out the 'cap' situation for the three different bundles .... but 'no cap' is mentioned on the site.

The pricing is much clearer now .... more in line with what some competitors are offering such as Airwire.

https://www.eir.ie/broadband/1000mb-fibre/

ninja 12

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Prices have changed today as promised

150Mb bundle
Was
€45 for 6 months, then €50 for 6 months and €81 thereafter

Now
€45.99 for 12 months and €65.99 thereafter
Only off-peak calls to Irish landline now whereas previously there was
Unlimited calls to Irish and UK landlines and mobiles.

I did not check out the 'cap' situation.

The pricing is much clearer now .... more in line with what some competitors are offering such as Airwire.

I uploaded a screenshot of the Eir site just before you posted .

It now says "no usage caps "

Johnboy1951

ninja 12 wrote: »

I uploaded a screenshot of the Eir site just before you posted .

It now says "no usage caps "

Ah! had not seen it.

What is not clear without delving into the small print, is whether the 'no usage caps' applies to all bundles or only the 1Gb one.

fritzelly

Unlimited is for all FTTC/FTTH bundles not just the 1Gb package

Tigerandahalf

fritzelly wrote: »

Unlimited is for all FTTC/FTTH bundles not just the 1Gb package

Do you have to sign a new contract to avail of it? Mine isn't up for a few months.

KildareP

fritzelly wrote: »

Unlimited is for all FTTC/FTTH bundles not just the 1Gb package

Does this apply to business accounts also or just residential?

KOR101

ninja 12 wrote: »

I've just looked at the Eir site .

It now says "no usage caps "



When I log in , there's no usage stats anymore . There was yesterday .

Please let it be true :D

The wording is clearly different for the 1000mbit product (includes "with unlimited usage").

ninja 12

KOR101 wrote: »

The wording is clearly different for the 1000mbit product (includes "with unlimited usage").

I think we all need an official clarification from Eir .

Yesterday when I logged into my Eir account I could see my download stats / usage for the month .

Now all I see is this -



There was a link for usage beside the Eir fibre extreme text , now it's gone .

fritzelly

Business haven't had any package changes (yet)
That unlimited blurb is the same as it was before for the 1Gb package - it really is unlimited on all packages
New contract needed if you want the new packages.

MiskyBoyy

Please let it be true. Should have FTTH available in the coming months and wasn't as excited as I should be due to the usage restriction.

AidenL

Those are more attractive packages now alright.

Tigerandahalf

fritzelly wrote: »

Business haven't had any package changes (yet)
That unlimited blurb is the same as it was before for the 1Gb package - it really is unlimited on all packages
New contract needed if you want the new packages.

Are they going to notify us I wonder or will we need to contact them. It is a big blow to virgin media.

DrPhilG

I'm hitting the live chat now to confirm.  I've signed up for the new deal but it doesn't start until installation so I want to ensure I'm getting unlimited.

DrPhilG

True unlimited broadband is for NEW CUSTOMERS ONLY.  Not available for current customers, even if you are upgrading to fibre for the first time.

I dare say that could be argued if you call up and threaten to leave, but it's pretty poor form.

fritzelly

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Are they going to notify us I wonder or will we need to contact them. It is a big blow to virgin media.

No, you need to contact them. Plenty of advertising so expect lots of people will be phoning in.

KOR101

DrPhilG wrote: »

True unlimited broadband is for NEW CUSTOMERS ONLY. Not available for current customers, even if you are upgrading to fibre for the first time.

I dare say that could be argued if you call up and threaten to leave, but it's pretty poor form.

If they are removing the usage meter for existing customers you would have to assume it applies to them also. Typical Eir messup.