Werewolf XXVII - WESTWORLD

Frank WW

I’ve started putting together all interactions with Doris. Lots of stuff but my eyes are getting tired.

This morning we started with 13 villagers, 4 wolves and an SK. the wolves didn’t get their munch, shots have killed 2 wolves and the SK. So now there’s 12 villagers and 2 wolves.

Does anyone else find this really weird? Could it all be reset like in Overwatch?

Orla WW

Holly WW wrote: »

We do get value out of a Nigel lynch,
if he turns out to be a wolf, i seriously doubt he bussed any wolves in very first FFA of FFA1.
Wolves do early FFAs to try to steer people onto bandwagons, so,
if Nigel is a wolf, Isla, Katie and Frank can be put into not wolf, could be SK pile.

Im this far. No idea what happens afterwards other than nigel met the hangman and the vig is 3 for 3.... i would love to know if holly is a wolf though, basically for the reasons she gave for nigel

Mary WW

So I have managed to sort of catch up a bit.

Riona, Doris and Jake were all bad and got f**ked up . . Not sure why the Vig hasn't come out cause you have nothing to lose at this stage and with Two wolves left my gut doesn't see why they would be so bold as to try and double bluff. They just cannot afford to at this stage . .

My Gut initially created a cramp that farted Henry's name out. . So I put on the gloves, applied the lube and fingered Henry Hard . . Henry hasn't posted much so far so it was easy enough to catch-up with his all round play thus far. When you look closer there was some nice interaction with Doris and Holly pre munch and a couple of defensive posts towards Liam when he spoke of Henry in the same name as Jake.

And since my Gut has been fairly decent to me after a stressful day I also think:

- Katie is worth a peek and then Frank, maybe you could finger each other and tell the village how it goes ?

- Nigel is kind of ok about his departure



Big shout out to the Vigilante . . This bud is for you . .



Good night all . . Maybe

Liam WW

Frank WW wrote: »

I don’t mind. Will take me a while.

Liam, would you look at the posts responding to your FFA and any posts that trailed off from it?

Missed this earlier

I dont recall anyone responding to my FFA off hand.

Mary WW

And Henry, if I get munched for fingering you I hope they lynch you so you can join me in the backroom. .

Orla WW

Ok caught up more or less.

I hate annon games cause I'm not an excel player and its hard to keep track of everything.


Katie why did you lay off Nigel? All morning you were gung ho on Nigel and then around the time Jake bit the bullet, or shortly after it, you changed off him to me. I seemed a very easy target as a non poster after the bandwagon on Nigel didn't materialise. I mean come on, the vig shot a non poster and hit a wolf so now you would? Really?

Nigel I apologise for casting the deciding vote on you. Had i had time to read any further i would not have voted for you... apologies.

Fiona WW

Something isn't lining up like we think. Hope I'm wrong but 3 bullets fired by a vig on day 1 and all being on target with a baddie then the guy who offered to be killed and therefore an obvious person the wolves could have tried to direct things towards (knowing he's not one of them) only barely gets lynched and turns out to be (probably just flavor) fords co creator of westworld Bernard.

My fear is that's far more bullets than I would have expected this early especially on targets not many seemed 100% confident on) and who knows maybe cos of the theme we might get dead characters loops restarting or something (probably just a theme related stretch tho)

I'd also think there could be a wolf on Nigel as only 3 voted that way and it'd seem like a smart move for a wolf to take out someone offering themselves up that they were sure wasn't wolfie. Iirc that means Frank, Tegsn and Orla is were my intentions will be as we begin today more so. Hopefully Orla is more active today.

Orla WW

Fiona WW wrote: »

Hopefully Orla is more active today.

I shall not be making any promises.

Orla WW

Fiona WW wrote: »

I'd also think there could be a wolf on Nigel as only 3 voted that way and it'd seem like a smart move for a wolf to take out someone offering themselves up that they were sure wasn't wolfie. Iirc that means Frank, Tegsn and Orla is were my intentions will be as we begin today more so.

I've been thinking about this, i think there are 2 or no wolves on Nigel. If I was on a wolf team today I would have moved away from Nigel. The only reason I would vote for him as a wolf is if one of our remaining 2 were up for lynch (both Tegan and Frank were tbf) and they felt they needed to block vote to save themselves. So my aim tomorrow will be to look at those who were voting for him and then moved off of him, hence my questioning of Katie as to why she moved off him and why to me.

Sorry Katie i have read the thread but cant remember. Did you have a 3rd ffa candidate other than Nigel and myself?

Again I know I voted for him, while I dont expect ye to, I am choosing to ignore that.

Holly WW

Orla WW wrote: »

I've been thinking about this, i think there are 2 or no wolves on Nigel. If I was on a wolf team today I would have moved away from Nigel. The only reason I would vote for him as a wolf is if one of our remaining 2 were up for lynch (both Tegan and Frank were tbf) and they felt they needed to block vote to save themselves. So my aim tomorrow will be to look at those who were voting for him and then moved off of him, hence my questioning of Katie as to why she moved off him and why to me.

Sorry Katie i have read the thread but cant remember. Did you have a 3rd ffa candidate other than Nigel and myself?

Again I know I voted for him, while I dont expect ye to, I am choosing to ignore that.

#FFA1
|A|B|C
Nigel|Isla|Katie|Ewan
Frank|Nigel|Conor|Ewan
Fiona|Frank|Henry|Conor
Liam|Jake the Wolf|Henry|Frank
Ewan|Steve|Tegan|Isla
Holly|Tegan|Fiona|Doris
Eva|Ewan|Tegan|-
Katie|Nigel|Isla|Orla
Isla|Nigel|Frank|~Fiona
Henry|Fiona|Ewan|-
Conor|Isla|Tegan|-
Doris|Frank|Orla|-
Riona|Jake (after he's dead)|Nigel|-
Steve|Tegan|Eva|NigelNo FFAs from Mary, Orla & Tegan


Vote Day 1
Nigel - Orla, Tegan, Frank
Tegan - Ewan, Steve
Fiona - Holly, Henry
Frank - Isla, Fiona
Ewan - Eva, Nigel
Isla - Conor
Henry - Liam
Orla - Katie

Holly WW

Holly WW wrote: »

jake post 2 looks good for isla.

Isla WW wrote: »

How so?

Jakes 2nd post calls isla a wolf, something they return to here

Holly WW

Doris WW wrote: »

#FFA1

Frank - non committal about finding anything wolfy till the first death, then 2nd out with FFA. It's been grinding my gears all day.

Orla - barely here - 3 posts is a poor show. Not going to harp on about the low poster thing (although Jake was suitably low) as it's been done to death. At the very least maybe this will draw them out to respond.

That's whats I got so far. Other minor inklings but really nothing concrete to put on an FFA.

Nigel - Orla, Tegan, Frank

Known wolf doris had hots for frank and orla.

Holly WW

Doris WW wrote: »

I don't buy the Tegan thing at all.

And here's why:

Tegan's first post.






Does a wolf really call another out in their very first post? I mean, it would be crazily brazen.

I'd rule Tegan out as being a wolf, but not the SK as a result tbh.

Don't know what to think of this yet.

Orla WW

Katie WW wrote: »

Doris the wolf cleared Tegan, that's an interesting point to not, your right on the Doris thing, very risky to put Frank on an FFA but how late was the FFA? Basically was it going to make a difference?

But it wasn't risky to put me on her ffa?


I've "tunnelled" innocent players before so i am going to try and not come at you tomorrow unless there is a reason. You are top of my suspect list right now and if i had to vote now it would be for you but that could obviously change.

I'd appreciate, however, if you could point out the post/posts that led you from having a hard on for nigel to believing he was a good valuable villager though and what it was that was new about it and stopped him from being a "dick" to, o ya i wont be voting for him

Holly WW

As in, jumping in a vilagers pocket, or backing up a fellow wolf, as i said , unsure, could be either, for me, it 1 or none on nigel, not 2 or none.

Orla WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Don't know what to think of this yet.

Why? I mean you are quoting a post so must be thinking something, right?

Holly WW

Orla WW wrote: »

Why? I mean you are quoting a post so must be thinking something, right?

yeah, my next post explains my thought process,

here is the post you want off katie btw

Orla WW

Eva WW wrote: »

As I said earlier, Dorris was very active with Frank, even putting them on the FFA. Would they put another wolf on it after losing Jake earlier? Personally, I feel not.

Orla, meanwhile, hasn't posted much but still got a vote in, which always looks suspicious.

Why do you contradict yourself?

You don't think a wolf would put a wolf on their list?

A wolf puts someone quiet on their list who managed to vote so is suspicious?

Im sorry but rl is a real thing guys, i mean why are you so quiet now?

Holly WW

Orla WW wrote: »

Why do you contradict yourself?

You don't think a wolf would put a wolf on their list?

A wolf puts someone quiet on their list who managed to vote so is suspicious?

Im sorry but rl is a real thing guys, i mean why are you so quiet now?

exactly, this is a 11/13 game, the is less hours in the day than the night and majority of player slack off! :rolleyes:

Orla WW

Holly WW wrote: »

yeah, my next post explains my thought process,

here is the post you want off katie btw

No its not.

I want to know where nigel went from dick to ah he's grand. A second possible quiet wolf doesn't wash imo. Also it'd be great if you could stop answering for katie. I know your trying to help but i would really like for katie's answers to be her own and if you are a wolf and katie isn't then I'm sure she would not like you speaking on her behalf.

Holly WW

Orla WW wrote: »

No its not.

I want to know where nigel went from dick to ah he's grand. A second possible quiet wolf doesn't wash imo. Also it'd be great if you could stop answering for katie. I know your trying to help but i would really like for katie's answers to be her own and if you are a wolf and katie isn't then I'm sure she would not like you speaking on her behalf.

Thanks for putting me in my place,
it just so happened that i was reading that post
and jumped the gun, sorry.

Orla WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Thanks for putting me in my place,
it just so happened that i was reading that post
and jumped the gun, sorry.

No i didnt mean to be snappy, just wanted katie's own words so i could drop the feeling i have atm...

Holly WW

Yesterday, 20:52

Orla WW wrote: »

I am up to 13.4x


I am going to make my vote on Henry due to ending a lot of posts with deflection. Will catch up on the rest later.

you are votig henry?

yet

Nigel - Orla, Tegan, Frank
??

You ask katie why she changed her vote, why then did you.

I think i have chronological order correct,

frank voted with 3 minutes to go,
tegan i gather voted before that,

what time did you vote for Nigel?

Holly WW

Yesterday, 20:53

Orla WW wrote: »

Wait im voting for Nigel sorry.

ah crap, i should have read anoter two posts.

Holly WW

so, tegan voted nigel between 20:53 and 20:57, is that correct Tegan?

Orla WW

I believe it would have been around 5 to. Would they not have voted before me though, being before me on the list?

Orla WW

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Voter - Vote
Frank Nigel
Fiona - Frank
Steve Tegan
Henry Fiona
Tegan Nigel
Conor Isla
Nigel Ewan
Ewan Tegan
Liam Henry
Katie Orla
Holy Fiona
Isla Frank
Eva Ewan
Orla Niegl

Nigel 3
Frank 2
Tegan 2
Fiona 2
Isla 1
Ewan 2
Henry 1
Orla 1

Scratch that list i was refferring to was Eva's. Still though i imagine Frank's was first and mine last, no?

Holly WW

eva posted it in reverse chron order, except for her own line,

i posted in chrono order. (to best of my knowledge)

voted - first to last.

i also fixed the #ffa1 above where evas ffa was not in order of actual ffas;

nothing in this statement about eva is bad, eva pointed out her ffa wasnt picked up, frank just didnt reorder. eva changed flushes vote order to something we are more used to, but may not have taken chrono into account, i did.

Holly WW

Orla WW wrote: »

Scratch that list i was refferring to was Eva's. Still though i imagine Frank's was first and mine last, no?

look back, according to frank, his change was last minute, so i believe newest to oldest is the order.

Holly WW

Holly WW wrote: »

Yesterday, 20:52


you are votig henry?

yet

Nigel - Orla, Tegan, Frank
??

You ask katie why she changed her vote, why then did you.

I think i have chronological order correct,

frank voted with 3 minutes to go,
tegan i gather voted before that,

what time did you vote for Nigel?

13) The votes will be published when we announce the Lynch. They will be posted in order of who received the most votes and then in chronological order but with no timestamps

Katie WW

Orla WW wrote: »

No its not.

I want to know where nigel went from dick to ah he's grand. A second possible quiet wolf doesn't wash imo. Also it'd be great if you could stop answering for katie. I know your trying to help but i would really like for katie's answers to be her own and if you are a wolf and katie isn't then I'm sure she would not like you speaking on her behalf.

He never stopped being a dick!

Katie WW wrote: »

I kind of wasn't either up until about the last hour, some of his posts have now changed my mind somewhat

I initially thought Nidge as a village but two posts containing information about me was wrong. I put it down to malicious intent, he eventually roled back on the guts of it.

Katie WW wrote: »

Nice shot vig, that is one ballsy move on day 1, fair play.

Still a lot left to post FFAs, would a second wolf be in the low posters, I'm leaning towards Orla over Nidge at this point.

This was when I decided to go for you really, lack of engagement and relatively confident Nidge wasn't bad.

Katie WW wrote: »

You guys voting off FFAs or going for gut?

You didn't top the FFA so I asked the village what the consensus was, most people said gut. That suited me as more to analyse than a stampede on Nidge

Katie WW wrote: »

Gut suits you now, are you not concerned anymore about hitting a villager? Slight change on the sacrifice front, that said I'm going gut aswell at this point. There's a lot this evening to read back on from a lot of posters which is good.

This was in response to Nidge, he peeked my interest when sayin he was going for gut over the FFA so I asked him why!

I voted for you at around half 7 is that's any help. I stand by my vote, I said yesterday if people though Nidge was good they should play the odds as there is only 2 roled villagers and 5 bad guys (those numbers changed dramatically last night). That was my thinking on it

MrsFlushdraw

Holly WW wrote: »

13) The votes will be published when we announce the Lynch. They will be posted in order of who received the most votes and then in chronological order but with no timestamps

Just on voting. I copied the rules from another game and didn't pay attention to it. When I was doing the votes, I had to do quickly as the other two mods had done the vote count.

There were two in the list that changed their vote before lynch, I did not re-order the people, I changed the lynchee name and left the name on the left in the same place.

Frank WW

Liam WW wrote: »

Missed this earlier

I dont recall anyone responding to my FFA off hand.

What I mean is was the conversation steered away from talking about your FFA. Did some people not want to highlight the fact that Jake was on yours. May be nothing.

This could all be moot today as it now stands at 12 v 2 and it’s only Tuesday. A correct lynch tonight and tomorrow would be game over. And that’s not taking into consideration the vig having more bullets and being an excellent shot.

Expect a shake up today

Eva WW

Holly WW wrote: »

eva posted it in reverse chron order, except for her own line,

i posted in chrono order. (to best of my knowledge)

voted - first to last.

i also fixed the #ffa1 above where evas ffa was not in order of actual ffas;

nothing in this statement about eva is bad, eva pointed out her ffa wasnt picked up, frank just didnt reorder. eva changed flushes vote order to something we are more used to, but may not have taken chrono into account, i did.

Just for clarity, I just quickly posted it up in the familiar format for ease of reading. I forgot to think about chronological arrangement at all in my haste to do so.

Henry WW

Morning all


So, business first: Mary, what is this pile of ****e?

Mary WW wrote: »

So I have managed to sort of catch up a bit.

Riona, Doris and Jake were all bad and got f**ked up . . Not sure why the Vig hasn't come out cause you have nothing to lose at this stage and with Two wolves left my gut doesn't see why they would be so bold as to try and double bluff. They just cannot afford to at this stage . .

My Gut initially created a cramp that farted Henry's name out. . So I put on the gloves, applied the lube and fingered Henry Hard . . Henry hasn't posted much so far so it was easy enough to catch-up with his all round play thus far. When you look closer there was some nice interaction with Doris and Holly pre munch and a couple of defensive posts towards Liam when he spoke of Henry in the same name as Jake.

And since my Gut has been fairly decent to me after a stressful day I also think:

- Katie is worth a peek and then Frank, maybe you could finger each other and tell the village how it goes ?

- Nigel is kind of ok about his departure



Big shout out to the Vigilante . . This bud is for you . .



Good night all . . Maybe

I had a quick look back! My interactions are mainly with Li am (surprise surprise) Nigel and Isla. If you really want to stretch out the definition of pre munch I had a single interaction with Doris at 8.27am yesterday. That was where people including Doris challenged my point to Fiona on players not posting. And a single interaction with holly I think too. I also had some interactions with Riona around her fantasy ffa, though clearly I can’t be the sk since Riona was.

So basically your contributions has been to skulk out of the shadows yesterday evening. Drop some shade where you apologetically mention me alongside a no lynch then gradually drip feed nonsense until you’ve “fingered” me

What say you Mary?

Isla WW

Morning folks, another beautiful morning here in Las Mudas.

I'm expecting **** to get crazy at the munch as I just cannot believe that we're doing that well. If the vigilante has hit 3 wolves and the SK on day one I need to retire from this game coz I could never compare to those sort of skillz.

Henry WW

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Just on voting. I copied the rules from another game and didn't pay attention to it. When I was doing the votes, I had to do quickly as the other two mods had done the vote count.

There were two in the list that changed their vote before lynch, I did not re-order the people, I changed the lynchee name and left the name on the left in the same place.

MrsF, is it possible to get the correct order?

Ewan WW

Morning all, ready for another day of excitement?

For those of you familiar with Westworld, how would you expect the game to be reset? Players back from the dead? New roles announced?

Isla WW

Ewan WW wrote: »

Morning all, ready for another day of excitement?

For those of you familiar with Westworld, how would you expect the game to be reset? Players back from the dead? New roles announced?

I would think it's players back from the dead. It makes sense with the theme. Westworld is basically reset every day or every few days. I'm not sure how it works though seeing as how we would know that the 4 of them are evil. Unless they actually do shake up the whole thing and reassign literally everyone's roles. Which would be crazy. :eek:

Frank WW

If Tegan is good we should also be looking at who voted her too. If I hadn’t switched my vote off her and onto Nigel she would have been lynched.

Nb: I remain on the suspicious list in both events.

Tegan WW

Good morning all. Ill be pretending to be busy in work today to keep an eye on things here!

Orla WW

Thanks Katie, pretty happy with your answer unfortunately

Steve WW

Frank WW wrote: »

A B C
Nigel Isla Katie Ewan
Frank Nigel Conor Ewan
Fiona Frank Henry Conor
Liam Jake the Wolf Henry Frank
Ewan Steve Tegan Isla
Holly Tegan Fiona Doris
Katie Nigel Isla Orla
Isla Nigel Frank Fiona
Eva Ewan Tegan -
Henry Fiona Ewan -
Conor Isla Tegan -
Doris Frank Orla -
Riona Jake (after he's dead) Nigel -
Steve Tegan Eva Nigel


No FFAs from Mary, Orla & Tegan

Vote Counts
Nigel: 5 votes
Tegan: 5 votes
Isla: 4 votes
Frank: 4 votes
Ewan: 4 votes

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

Voter - Vote
Frank Nigel
Fiona - Frank
Steve Tegan
Henry Fiona
Tegan Nigel
Conor Isla
Nigel Ewan
Ewan Tegan
Liam Henry
Katie Orla
Holy Fiona
Isla Frank
Eva Ewan
Orla Niegl

Nigel 3
Frank 2
Tegan 2
Fiona 2
Isla 1
Ewan 2
Henry 1
Orla 1

Hoping to find some discrepancies between FFAs and votes but could not. Only real thing is that Riona would be quite the SK if she found two wolves in day one. Although the vig has killed 3 so 2 wouldn't be that much of a stretch. And Riona did say that she suspected Jake after Jake was killed.

Tegan WW

Im expecting some Mod trickery or shenanigans today!!!

Steve WW

Frank WW wrote: »

If Tegan is good we should also be looking at who voted her too. If I hadn’t switched my vote off her and onto Nigel she would have been lynched.

Nb: I remain on the suspicious list in both events.

Can I ask why Tegan specifically? There are a number of others with 2 votes on them.

Steve WW

Tegan WW wrote: »

Im expecting some Mod trickery or shenanigans today!!!

I'd be shocked if everything has been on the straight and narrow thus far.

Orla WW

Orla WW wrote: »

Why do you contradict yourself?

You don't think a wolf would put a wolf on their list?

A wolf puts someone quiet on their list who managed to vote so is suspicious?

Im sorry but rl is a real thing guys, i mean why are you so quiet now?

Eva, why were tou trying to cast aspersions on me when it contradicts something you used to clear another player?

Liam WW

Fiona WW wrote: »

Something isn't lining up like we think. Hope I'm wrong but 3 bullets fired by a vig on day 1 and all being on target with a baddie then the guy who offered to be killed and therefore an obvious person the wolves could have tried to direct things towards (knowing he's not one of them) only barely gets lynched and turns out to be (probably just flavor) fords co creator of westworld Bernard.

My fear is that's far more bullets than I would have expected this early especially on targets not many seemed 100% confident on) and who knows maybe cos of the theme we might get dead characters loops restarting or something (probably just a theme related stretch tho)

I'd also think there could be a wolf on Nigel as only 3 voted that way and it'd seem like a smart move for a wolf to take out someone offering themselves up that they were sure wasn't wolfie. Iirc that means Frank, Tegsn and Orla is were my intentions will be as we begin today more so. Hopefully Orla is more active today.

The play yesterday was unprecidented.

3 bullets used on day one, all succesful. Thats defying the odds.

Why use 3 bullets on day 1?

If I was Vig, Id be hard pushed to use one and Henry may have been my top choice.

He hit Jake and while I suspected him, I didnt suspect him enough to off him on day 1. Id have been more inclined to save my bullets for further down the line.

Was the Vig afraid of a Westworld reset (my speculation) hence why he used his bullets in the space of a few hours?

Steve WW

Holly WW wrote: »

look back, according to frank, his change was last minute, so i believe newest to oldest is the order.

I voted around 7 I think, so I doubt I was one of the last to vote.

Frank WW

MrsFlushdraw wrote: »

There were two in the list that changed their vote before lynch, I did not re-order the people, I changed the lynchee name and left the name on the left in the same place.

So I was one of the two people to change my vote. Who was the other one?

Anyone want to fess up?