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Dublin bus driver attacked

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,195 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    What route was that on


  • Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭ax586


    What route was that on

    I heard the 184 now don’t count me on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭cython


    Scumbag behaviour from the would-be passenger, and I am in no way condoning it, but why in the name of sweet suffering jaysus would the driver have opened the cab door to let him get a shot at him?! I genuinely am not one for victim blaming, but those security measures weren't fitted for no reason, so I just have to wonder what goes through the mind of someone who exposes themselves like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭Peter Flynt


    cython wrote: »
    Scumbag behaviour from the would-be passenger, and I am in no way condoning it, but why in the name of sweet suffering jaysus would the driver have opened the cab door to let him get a shot at him?! I genuinely am not one for victim blaming, but those security measures weren't fitted for no reason, so I just have to wonder what goes through the mind of someone who exposes themselves like that.

    WTF have I just read?


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭duvetdayss


    Jesus. Vicious is right. Hope the driver is ok


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    WTF have I just read?

    The same question the employer will ask after the driver is fully recovered probably.

    The guy was a scumbag but the doors were installed to prevent assaults on drivers. Not blaming the driver at all but it is a question that will be asked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    The driver was an idiot for getting involved. Not condoning the actions of the scumbag but if the driver had any sense he would put the perspex screen up if it was down sit back and let the incident unfold and radio for garda assistance or keep driving if the incident was not impeding on his driving ability. At the end of the day no scumbag is worth putting your health, job, good name or life at risk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭alane20


    The scumbag was upstairs on the bus smoking weed, following complaints from passengers the driver went upstairs and told him to get off, the footage starts as the scumbag tried to talk his way out of been thrown off, the driver had to sadly take action as from experience the driver would have been waiting an hour for the gardi to come, not blaming the guards for it they are stretched thin, but as a fellow driver we have to police the bus for the comfort of other passengers because no one else will


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,508 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    Lad in the pink shirt (seems to be a passerby rather than a passenger) is to be seriously commended for intervening.

    Not one passenger helps it seems.

    Hope the scumbag gets what's coming to him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    I'm amazed at how 'quickly' passengers came to the drivers aid?

    What did they think? It wasn't for real?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,508 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    I love the person who videoed it writes "love that lady" who essentially roars at the scumbag and can only do so because the lad in the pink got involved.


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,750 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Scumbags gonna scumbag.

    I hope the driver is ok and the passengers who helped him are too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    ****in hell, bus driver got a bad bad hiding there.

    Why is it that the bus drivers tend to have their screens down more than up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    alane20 wrote: »
    The scumbag was upstairs on the bus smoking weed, following complaints from passengers the driver went upstairs and told him to get off, the footage starts as the scumbag tried to talk his way out of been thrown off, the driver had to sadly take action as from experience the driver would have been waiting an hour for the gardi to come, not blaming the guards for it they are stretched thin, but as a fellow driver we have to police the bus for the comfort of other passengers because no one else will

    Then the passengers were idiots too. If I was on a bus and some was smoking weed I would shut up and put up. At the end of the day I take the bus because I want to get home or get somewhere I don't have the time for the bus to be delayed because the person smoking weed kicks off and refuses to get off the bus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Conservatory


    As a passenger who went back to using Dublin bus because of where I’m working at the moment I can say it’s nowhere near as bad as it used to be. To think I can sit upstairs watching Netflix on my phone now and not get beaten and robbed by a gang of scrotes is a huge plus. Aparantly they all moved to the luas.
    What kind of nut job thinks it’s ok to smoke on the bus never mind weed. He must have just been out of prison after a very long time or been living in another country.
    I hope he gets the book launched at him, I’ve had enough of scum in this country annoying the people who pay their social welfare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭patrickbrophy18


    Regardless of security (i.e. opening doors to would-be passengers etc), that guy was an absolute scumbag and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Regardless of security (i.e. opening doors to would-be passengers etc), that guy was an absolute scumbag and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    John Dunne of 27 McSilly Gardens has 187 prior convictions for....

    Yeah, not holding my breath there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭cython


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    The driver was an idiot for getting involved. Not condemning the actions of the scumbag but if the driver had any sense he would put the perspex screen up if it was down sit back and let the incident unfold and radio for garda assistance or keep driving if the incident was not impeding on his driving ability. At the end of the day no scumbag is worth putting your health, job, good name or life at risk.

    I sincerely hope that you meant to say you were not condoning his actions, as they should 100% be condemned! However, per my earlier post, I do still think the driver was remiss in not fully availing of the protections available to him. From what I saw it wasn't even a case of the screen not being up, but rather that the door was wide open and the driver halfway out of the cab. A poster has since elaborated that the driver left the cab to eject said individual from the bus, and presumably had the door still open on his way back in, but whatever the reason, the driver essentially waived/bypassed physical security measures that are there for a reason, and the thug took full advantage of this. I sympathise with the driver for the abuse he received, but he put himself in danger unnecessarily too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    Who watches and records this kind of thing?
    It's all messed up.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    ED E wrote: »
    Regardless of security (i.e. opening doors to would-be passengers etc), that guy was an absolute scumbag and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    John Dunne of 27 McSilly Gardens has 187 prior convictions for....

    Yeah, not holding my breath there.
    I'm sure judge martin Nolan will throw the book at him.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    The driver was an idiot for getting involved. Not condemning the actions of the scumbag but if the driver had any sense he would put the perspex screen up if it was down sit back and let the incident unfold and radio for garda assistance or keep driving if the incident was not impeding on his driving ability. At the end of the day no scumbag is worth putting your health, job, good name or life at risk.

    have things changed so much or was I on a better route? It use to be the drive pulled, and announced "Sorry all we are all waiting here until the Gardai arrive due to ..." opened the doors and waited for the whomever to do a runner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,761 ✭✭✭Xterminator


    So if the sole dublin bus employee on the bus actually intervenes when anti social behaviour is happening, some posters here think he is at fault, for not hiding behind the perspex and waiting for the cavalry?

    I commend a driver who takes action to protect/make passengers feel secure. i didn't think there was any other viewpoint?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Stephen15 wrote:
    Then the passengers were idiots too. If I was on a bus and some was smoking weed I would shut up and put up. At the end of the day I take the bus because I want to get home or get somewhere I don't have the time for the bus to be delayed because the person smoking weed kicks off and refuses to get off the bus.

    Anarchy would prevail if everyone had this attitude Stephen15.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    So if the sole dublin bus employee on the bus actually intervenes when anti social behaviour is happening, some posters here think he is at fault, for not hiding behind the perspex and waiting for the cavalry?

    I commend a driver who takes action to protect/make passengers feel secure. i didn't think there was any other viewpoint?

    Yes, well done that driver for taking a beating. I am sure had he ended up eating his meals via a straw your words would consol him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Pelvis wrote:
    Yes, well done that driver for taking a beating. I am sure had he ended up eating his meals via a straw your words would consol him.

    You seem to think the driver wanted to get beaten up.

    There was one person at fault in this video. The scumbag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭alane20


    I commend a driver who takes action to protect/make passengers feel secure. i didn't think there was any other viewpoint?

    Fully agree, the fault here is the mentality of the person in question, this inbread scum thinks it's his bus and no concern, actually concern is not the correct phrase, I should say basic common decency for others on the bus, then when challenged he responds like This, let's be honest here, he will get a slap on the wrist by a bleeding heart judge and be told your a very naughty boy don't do it again and add to his list of previous convictions and walk out the door, if your child was on the bus and said that people were smoking on the bus you can be sure they would be on the phone to donnybrook asking why the driver did nothing


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,751 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    noodler wrote: »
    Lad in the pink shirt (seems to be a passerby rather than a passenger) is to be seriously commended for intervening.
    A P.E. teacher from a top Dublin private school apparently, and not unknown in the world of MMA if the rumour is true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭jaxxx


    ED E wrote: »
    John Dunne of 27 McSilly Gardens has 187 prior convictions for....

    Yeah, not holding my breath there.

    Goddamn I love this country, don't you?

    .........

    @~!~@?><!!!!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    Aw come on, there's no way that was weed your man was smoking.

    Poor bus driver. Give him and the guy in the pink tshirt all the money and happiness in the world.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 168 ✭✭dublinbuster


    was told its 184 the stop just before donnybrook fare/tesco
    Greystones 'world's most liveable community' won the award twice i believe.
    now what hope does a driver have in one of the rowdy areas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭KD345


    This is shocking. I really hope this scumbag was arrested and charged.

    I also hope he is barred from using public transport for a considerable amount of time. Dublin Bus really need to make an example of this incident after any pending court case. If you attack a public transport employee you have no right to use the service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭vg88


    KD345 wrote: »
    This is shocking. I really hope this scumbag was arrested and charged.

    I also hope he is barred from using public transport for a considerable amount of time. Dublin Bus really need to make an example of this incident after any pending court case. If you attack a public transport employee you have no right to use the service.

    If this happened on a plane or airport they could never set foot in one again. But it's much easier to enforce there.

    We really need bus security like on the Luas or Dart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Absolutely shocking assault, it was hard to watch that. The driver should be commended for standing up to anti social behaviour but unforntunately the incident shows all other drivers that they are better off to ignore it in case they end up with injuries.

    The whole thing underlines just how much we need some form of roving transport police or Luas style security. It is just not on that a bus driver should be subject to this type of behaviour and Dublin Bus should be sending a message out that it wont tolerate this carry on towards their staff. I hope the book gets thrown at that scumbag but actually doubt it will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Anarchy would prevail if everyone had this attitude Stephen15.

    He smoked a joint on a bus hardly the crime of the century. If no one said anything no he would have just continued smoking his joint and the passengers would have got to where they are going on time.

    No scumbag smoking a joint is worth delaying your bus journey. Just because someone is on a social justice crusade doesn't mean anyone else cares.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    He smoked a joint on a bus hardly the crime of the century. If no one said anything no he would have just continued smoking his joint and the passengers would have got to where they are going on time.

    No scumbag smoking a joint is worth delaying your bus journey. Just because someone is on a social justice crusade doesn't mean anyone else cares.



    Bus driver probably felt obliged to act, even though its not his job to do so.

    Feel very bad for the man and hope he recovers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Stephen15 wrote:
    He smoked a joint on a bus hardly the crime of the century. If no one said anything no he would have just continued smoking his joint and the passengers would have got to where they are going on time.

    Why should one d*ckhead be allowed break the law just because (by your measure) it's not the crime of the century? That becomes acceptable, where does it end?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭KD345


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    He smoked a joint on a bus hardly the crime of the century. If no one said anything no he would have just continued smoking his joint and the passengers would have got to where they are going on time.

    No scumbag smoking a joint is worth delaying your bus journey. Just because someone is on a social justice crusade doesn't mean anyone else cares.

    Firstly, smoking illegal drugs on a bus is a crime. That is not up for debate here. Regardless of what level of crime you consider it to be is entirely irrelevant. An employee was assaulted while driving a bus, that’s what we’re dealing with. I have no idea what you mean by social justice, but whatever view you take or how you choose to categorise it, a man was viciously assaulted while doing their job. The build up to that assault, however big or small you view it, does not take away from what happened.

    I hope the excellent level of CCTV coupled with passenger witnesses form a solid case against this scumbag. If I was CEO of Dublin Bus I would be stepping forward to say this is not acceptable to their employees and they will ban this person, and any person who commits a similar assault, from using their service.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    He smoked a joint on a bus hardly the crime of the century. If no one said anything no he would have just continued smoking his joint and the passengers would have got to where they are going on time.

    No scumbag smoking a joint is worth delaying your bus journey. Just because someone is on a social justice crusade doesn't mean anyone else cares.

    I think you're smoking something yourself. According to you the driver is an idiot for getting involved, the passengers are idiots for complaining...what kind of mindset is that? Why should ordinary law-abiding people be put out by some absolute ball sack who has no respect for anyone else and never will?

    Cop on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    I think you're smoking something yourself. According to you the driver is an idiot for getting involved, the passengers are idiots for complaining...what kind of mindset is that? Why should ordinary law-abiding people be put out by some absolute ball sack who has no respect for anyone else and never will?

    Cop on.

    But they are going to be put out more if they say nothing. If they said anything to the driver the driver would have either called for Garda assistance to remove the offender or like the scenario he would have gotten assaulted by the scumbag and be in an likely be in unfit position to continue driving the bus meaning the passengers get delayed either way. I'm not defending the scumbag I'm putting it how it is and telling the truth.

    If the passengers kept their mouth shut nothing would have happened and the passengers would have got to their destination on time and in one piece. FACT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Stephen15 wrote:
    If the passengers kept their mouth shut nothing would have happened and the passengers would have got to their destination on time and in one piece. FACT.

    For 99.999% of people, there's more to life than getting somewhere on time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Pelvis


    For 99.999% of people, there's more to life than getting somewhere on time.
    If you asked people on a packed bus at rush hour, in the pissing rain, on their way home, if they'd rather stop and wait for the guards for an hour because someone on the bus is smoking and won't get off, or if they'd rather just put up with it and get home, I think you'll find your 99.999% figure is complete and utter bollocks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Why should one d*ckhead be allowed break the law just because (by your measure) it's not the crime of the century? That becomes acceptable, where does it end?

    I think you may have misunderstood my post. The fact of the matter is everyone the scumbag will get away with it no matter what. If no one said anything the bus wouldn't have got delayed and the passengers would have gotten to where they need to be on time and not got hurt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Pelvis wrote:
    If you asked people on a packed bus at rush hour, in the pissing rain, on their way home, if they'd rather stop and wait for the guards for an hour because someone on the bus is smoking and won't get off, or if they'd rather just put up with it and get home, I think you'll find your 99.999% figure is complete and utter bollocks.

    Spark up the next time you're on a packed bus in the pissing rain and I think you'll find you'll find yourself outside the bus (in said pissing rain) wondering now what is utter bullocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭flatty


    Funnily enough, I'd not have minded him smoking a joint. I'd find a cigarette far more offensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Stephen15 wrote:
    I think you may have misunderstood my post. The fact of the matter is everyone the scumbag will get away with it no matter what. If no one said anything the bus wouldn't have got delayed and the passengers would have gotten to where they need to be on time and not got hurt.

    Again, using that logic, where does it end.

    Scumbags doing everything they want all of the time. With impunity.

    You might think that's what's happening now. It isn't. There's isolated events and outright disregard for law. This was an isolated event. Thankfully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    flatty wrote: »
    Funnily enough, I'd not have minded him smoking a joint. I'd find a cigarette far more offensive.

    Also true


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Glass fused light


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    I think you may have misunderstood my post. The fact of the matter is everyone the scumbag will get away with it no matter what. If no one said anything the bus wouldn't have got delayed and the passengers would have gotten to where they need to be on time and not got hurt.

    Appart from being forced to inhale whatever the scumbag decided to smoke?

    If the passengers are so determined to get home on time they will as a group make it clear to the scumbag to put it out or get off. No need for violence just the threat of group action while all end up waiting for the Gardai is normaly enough to get most off.

    And I for one would be happy to unhappily await the Gardai if it means a smoke free public transport service.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    You might think that's what's happening now. It isn't. There's isolated events and outright disregard for law. This was an isolated event. Thankfully.

    Yes that was an isolated incident but the facts still remain that Guards are always going to be slow to arrive. When a 999 call comes in the Guards aren't going to come quicker if it's an 'isolated incident'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,972 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Stephen15 wrote:
    Yes that was an isolated incident but the facts still remain that Guards are always going to be slow to arrive. When a 999 call comes in the Guards aren't going to come quicker if it's an 'isolated incident'.

    I refer you to my earlier post.
    For 99.999% of people, there's more to life than getting somewhere on time.


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