Recommend electric folding scooter for end of commute (Mod Note Post #1)

liamog

weldoninhio wrote: »

How would you throttle up on an e-board?

They usually come with a wireless hand controller Boosted are a good example.

beauf

weldoninhio wrote: »

How would you throttle up on an e-board?

They have a hand controller usually wireless. Though there are some which simply boost your effort.

beauf

rubadub wrote: »

were you expecting a requirement for insurance? had there been much talk of it?

Are there many countries require insurance where it is currently legal to use say a standard XIAOMI M365 limited to 25km/h that require insurance?

Obviously high speed or high power ones might.

And I am obviously not looking for a smart-ass answer like "yes, in Ireland you currently need insurance to legally use one".

Some do yes. But it varies. some have different classification for types of e Bikes and types of scooters. You'd need to research it.

liamog

beauf wrote: »

Some do yes. But it varies. some have different classification for types of e Bikes and types of scooters. You'd need to research it.

Most of the countries that expect insurance, also offer a more general personal liability insurance that is low cost and protects you. We don't really have that kind of system here.

BarryM

rubadub wrote: »

were you expecting a requirement for insurance? had there been much talk of it?

Are there many countries require insurance where it is currently legal to use say a standard XIAOMI M365 limited to 25km/h that require insurance?

In my experience in many countries there is 'personal' insurance attached to your policy, house or civil liability, etc. That has cover for things happening to someone else that is your 'fault' I had that on the continent which covered ice falling off your roof and on to someone or their car, etc., for example. Most countries don't have 'loose stones on the pavement' stuff applied to the corpo...., but have personal liability cover. A friend of mine was surprised to discover that someone who slipped in his garden as covered.

I am not sure if household policies here cover personal liability, must look.

Note to mod "replying to 'no insce' requirement in new legl.

rubadub

beauf wrote: »

Some do yes. But it varies. some have different classification for types of e Bikes and types of scooters. You'd need to research it.

liamog wrote: »

Most of the countries that expect insurance,

I did have a quick search before posting that and found none.

To make it a bit more clear, in saying

And I am obviously not looking for a smart-ass answer like "yes, in Ireland you currently need insurance to legally use one"

I meant -are there any countries who in very recent years have updated/introduced regulations for low power, low speed scooters, the likes of an unmodified M365, with the definite aim of encouraging escooter use, who have insisted on insurance.

mgray

Has anyone here experienced water damage problems with ipx4 rated scooters. Is this just a convenient rating for companies to avoid warranty issues or do they really damage easily.? I'm talking riding in rain now and not going through big puddles as that is obviously going to cause problems.

I'm on the lookout for something as waterproof as possible without going into the premium range that I've seen mentioned in this thread. Had my eye on the Pure but cant seem to find Irish stockist and don't want to be stung with UK import.

I also notice some of the cheaper Xiaomi lookalikes claiming to be ipx5 or 6 but I'm a bit sceptical of these and cant find reviews to back it up, anyone any experience of any of these brands..? TIA....

AhHaor

The M365 has a hole about 30cm up the front stem. This is to allow cabling from battery and control unit up to handle bars. The hole has a piece of plastic on it and you could further waterproof it.

If water got down the hole it'll likely accumulate and potentially cause corrosion. There's no way water will ingress from the base as that's a good seal.

Heavy rain will likely result in some water getting in, but unlikely to do major damage. These things are all over Asia and they have a wet enough climate out there.

beauf

rubadub wrote: »

I did have a quick search before posting that and found none.

To make it a bit more clear, in saying



I meant -are there any countries who in very recent years have updated/introduced regulations for low power, low speed scooters, the likes of an unmodified M365, with the definite aim of encouraging escooter use, who have insisted on insurance.

Germany..

Personal Light Electric Vehicles are motor vehicles and thus have to be insured. Due to their small size and special design features, a small insurance sticker has been introduced for these vehicles.

From June 2019, E-scooters in Germany are required to be insured through the purchase of an annual insurance sticker that must be displayed on the vehicle (similarly to mopeds and high-speed electric bikes (45 km/h))

beauf

mgray wrote: »

Has anyone here experienced water damage problems with ipx4 rated scooters. Is this just a convenient rating for companies to avoid warranty issues or do they really damage easily.? I'm talking riding in rain now and not going through big puddles as that is obviously going to cause problems.

I'm on the lookout for something as waterproof as possible without going into the premium range that I've seen mentioned in this thread. Had my eye on the Pure but cant seem to find Irish stockist and don't want to be stung with UK import.

I also notice some of the cheaper Xiaomi lookalikes claiming to be ipx5 or 6 but I'm a bit sceptical of these and cant find reviews to back it up, anyone any experience of any of these brands..? TIA....

I think you'd have to take water proof scooters with a pinch of salt.

https://escooterrider.com/waterproofing-xiaomi-m365-you-must-do-this/
https://escooternerds.com/how-to-waterproof-electric-scooter/

Samuel T. Cogley

Guards can and do seize them. New legislation inbound though making them legal.

PalLimerick

BronsonTB wrote: »

Some factual finding on accidents involving e-scooters



If not currently legal to use on a public road, why are they even allowed??
Saw one this morning in the middle of the lane with a line a traffic being delayed behind it. Should they be confiscated if used publicly until it's legal to use one on the road?



https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2021/0524/1223683-escooter-injuries/

They are confiscated but they will be legal in the not too distant future.

Cheensbo

They're handy yokes, might get one myself if they're brought out of the grey area.

Samuel T. Cogley

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Guards can and do seize them. New legislation inbound though making them legal.

That was my understanding also- however - from the above article-

It is not legal to use e-scooters under current road traffic road traffic law, but Minister for Transport Eamon Ryan has said new legislation is on the way to regulate their use.


So now I’m rightly confused

Doodah7

I literally saw a Garda car pass a woman on an escooter last week. The squad had to move out to overtake the scooter but they then both continued on their merry way. So it seems it is likely down to luck whether you get stopped or not.

Alkers

Is the m365 the go to model for these, liking at upcoming legalisation? Any recommended alternatives or retailers?

LeeroyJ.

Alkers wrote: »

Is the m365 the go to model for these, liking at upcoming legalisation? Any recommended alternatives or retailers?

The Ninebot max is the current all-rounder king. It's the spiritual successor to the M365

Alkers

LeeroyJ. wrote: »

The Ninebot max is the current all-rounder king. It's the spiritual successor to the M365

Beefy price too, was hoping to spend less than 500e!

STEE

I seen an advert for these things in the Evening Herald on tuesday for 599 euro from independent.ie store. Checked it out and it says 499 on the website They have some brand called Veloci https://shop.independent.ie/products/up-veloci-electric-scooter Anybody know if this is a decent make of scooter ? Do I need tax & insurance ? How do I go about it ? just call into the local gardai station ???

liamog

Mod Note: Moved helmet discussion to own thread https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058189421

seligehgit

What's the best e scooter on the market?

CyberGhost

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118357951#Comment_118357951

Tesla Model S Plaid

ramirodelojo

I can't wait for it to finally get warm so I can ride to and from work on my scooter that I bought that year. Honestly, it's almost my favourite time of day to get home not by underground or bus, but by scooter. Plus I was choosing from fast electric scooters, so it's cool with the speed. I get home in about 25 minutes, which seems to me the best option for the warm season.