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Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭pah




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,161 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    pah wrote: »

    The poor girl and her poor family . Of course no one would want this outcome but at least they will know now and be able to grieve and bury her .
    RIP Jastine


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭JaMarcus


    Ugh. Was hard to see this ending any other way after yesterday's developments unfortunately. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    A body has been found in the search for missing 24-year-old Jastine Valdez from Enniskerry, Co Wicklow.

    Investigators discovered remains next to Pucks Castle golf course, not far from where a purse believed to belond to Jasmine was discovered earlier today.


    Gardai have been searching an area in Rathmichael, Co Dublin this morning as part of their investigations into her disappearance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    From DublinLive

    A body has been found in the search for missing 24-year-old Jastine Valdez from Enniskerry, Co Wicklow.

    Investigators discovered remains next to Pucks Castle golf course, not far from where a purse believed to belond to Jasmine was discovered earlier today.

    Gardai have been searching an area in Rathmichael, Co Dublin this morning as part of their investigations into her disappearance.

    Purse found in search for missing Jastine Valdez in Rathmichael
    Areas including 'the scalp' and a walk on Killiney Hill remain cordoned off while a Garda helicopter has been combing the area.

    It’s understood gardai are searching the area after studying the suspect’s car computer.

    The Defence Forces and the Civil Defence are helping with the search.
    Gardai issued a statement earlier today looking to speak to anyone who may have noticed suspicious activity in the area of Puckscastle Lane and Kiltiernan Lead Mines, Rathmichael, from 6pm last Saturday 19 May 2018 to 8pm Sunday 20 May 2018.

    The statement read: "Gardare looking to speak to any persons who may have observed suspicious activity in the area of Puckscastle Lane and Kiltiernan Lead Mines, Rathmichael, from 6pm last Saturday 19th May 2018 to 8pm Sunday 20th May 2018. Anyone with information, however insignificant should contact Bray Garda Station on 01 6665300, Garda Confidential Line 1 800 666 111 or any Garda Station."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Ah lord, such a needless loss of a young life :( RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭dar_cool


    Horrible dirty scumbag. Hope he rots in hell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,645 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Very sad but when he was found yesterday and she was not in the car I feared the worst. He had already ended her life.
    RIP little lady.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭BoroMan32


    Desperate news.

    Poor girl, 5ft and slight build, probably looked like more like a teenager/child to that evil scumbag.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    This is the most horrific thing. The poor beautiful young girl with everything in life ahead of her. Her poor poor family.

    This case has shook me and never extremely invest my emotions so much. I think it was the fact we were following it all as it went along.

    So sad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    I hope some answers can be found. How does a seemingly average family man decide to go out and grab someone off the street and murder them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Dozens of lives now ruined forever and a young life extinguished because this man couldnt control his sick sexual urges. Hard to stomach. RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭dbas


    What a degenerate scumbag


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭Creative83


    That's dreadful news :( RIP


  • Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy


    dar_cool wrote: »
    Horrible dirty scumbag. Hope he rots in hell
    didn't he get the right ending the ****ing **** at least he cant harm any one else now anyway.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 68,370 Mod ✭✭✭✭Grid.


    Terrible outcome...God love her.....R.I.P:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I hope some answers can be found. How does a seemingly average family man decide to go out and grab someone off the street and murder them?

    Yeah this is what I can't get my head around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,843 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    In a way I'm glad he was shot dead but on the other I wish he had survived and spent the remainder of his days living in a box sized room.


  • Posts: 18,962 [Deleted User]


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Yeah this is what I can't get my head around.

    must have been obsessed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Body found in Wicklow mountains now anyway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,175 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    I'd be very surprised if it was just a random attack.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,081 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    So sad , her life cut out so soon and for what ?
    One man's despicable actions .

    Her poor family and what they still have to face in the days ahead .

    Sometimes words aren't enough .

    RIP Jastine :(


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thoughts and prayers with her family and friends. Rest In Peace


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    I hope some answers can be found. How does a seemingly average family man decide to go out and grab someone off the street and murder them?

    Perhaps he wasn't so average. It was mentioned that the Gardai think he might have been a sex offender although not on the list. Perhaps accused or charged but not convicted, or similar. Or young offender with records purged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    A rotten dirtball.
    A poster mentioned earlier, that only for someone saw the scuffle as he pulled her into the car, he would likely be watching this from the sidelines.
    Who knows what else he has been responsible for. Hardly his first "go" at such an exercise one would think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Mam of 4 wrote: »
    So sad , her life cut out so soon and for what ?
    One man's despicable actions .

    Her poor family and what they still have to face in the days ahead .

    Sometimes words aren't enough .

    RIP Jastine :(

    His poor family too. A wife and two children who'll have to live with that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭Sminkypinky


    Terrible news. My wife and I have been following this (she's a Filipina). 
    We feared the worst but hoped for the best.
    RIP.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Huexotzingo


    The Gardai gave him the justice he deserved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭megatron989


    Now we will hopefully see why this happened. I doubt this was something that came out of the blue to his nearest and dearest. Sorry but they must have known something. Someone must've noticed some kind of off or odd behaviour at some point. Not that I'm blaming anyone, they would not have known what he was planning. But if we know the signs we at least learn something from this awful story.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Is it true the police did not investigate the scene of the kidnapping until the next morning?


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  • Awful news :(
    The poor girl :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Mrsmum


    Just so wrong for that to happen to her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    May she Rest In Peace . The Garda did the right thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    strandroad wrote: »
    Perhaps he wasn't so average. It was mentioned that the Gardai think he might have been a sex offender although not on the list. Perhaps accused or charged but not convicted, or similar. Or young offender with records purged.

    The poster said "seemingly" average family man. It is pretty clear he wasn;t your average man, the poster clearly is insinuating that to the man and woman on the street his actions are horrific and shocking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Awful awful news. RIP.

    Glad they shot the prick tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    He was a coward and a monster.

    I hope there's no guff about a good family man who flipped etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    The poster said "seemingly" average family man. It is pretty clear he wasn;t your average man, the poster clearly is insinuating that to the man and woman on the street his actions are horrific and shocking

    There is no such thing as the average person


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭JaMarcus


    Would rather he wasn't shot and had lived to see a proper punishment to be honest. Death seems like an easy, consequence-less way out.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,441 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Horrific :( may she rest in peace.

    A grim few days for our little country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    I hope some answers can be found. How does a seemingly average family man decide to go out and grab someone off the street and murder them?

    And a more important question might be, is this the only time the absolute ****er has done this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Now we will hopefully see why this happened. I doubt this was something that came out of the blue to his nearest and dearest. Sorry but they must have known something. Someone must've noticed some kind of off or odd behaviour at some point. Not that I'm blaming anyone, they would not have known what he was planning. But if we know the signs we at least learn something from this awful story.

    Gemma Dwyer knew nothing of her evil husband's deplorable actions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Gwen Cooper


    Awful news, although we all had a feeling that this will be the case. Thinking of the killer's family, trying to wrap their heads around that. And Jastine's poor family and the entire community dealing with such a tragedy. RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,373 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Is it true the police did not investigate the scene of the kidnapping until the next morning?

    They focused their attention on looking for the vehicle that they had a clear description of. And tracked it down in short order. What would be the point of searching where she wasn’t any more?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,690 ✭✭✭ElChe32


    Absolutely horrible news. The poor girl had so much of life to live. RIP Jastine.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    RIP Jastine :(


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Gardai gave him the justice he deserved.

    Disagree. He deserved to live with the consequences until a ripe old age. Shooting was too good for him. Too quick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,081 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    Omackeral wrote: »
    His poor family too. A wife and two children who'll have to live with that.

    Your heart would go out to all the families involved O , I said it last night . His parents/siblings ,wife,poor children ,they will all be living a nightmare wondering Why ..
    Jastines family , doesn't bear thinking about what they will have to face yet as more details come to light .

    This has touched everyone I think , the complete insanity of it all :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,456 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Hennessy was obviously very ill in some way or other. Which will be of no consolation to the Valdez family, her friends and Community.

    I cant help feeling thankful the Gardai shot him, probably saving them and the Country a drawn out case process. In time, it will give both families some chance to move on.

    May she RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    OscarBluth wrote: »
    But what makes a rapist? There was a study a number of years ago that showed that in South Africa, 10% of men ADMITTED to having raped a woman - it was a self-reporting study that was totally anonymous. The assumption, if I remember rightly, was that the levels of conflict in South Africa were a huge factor in this. The same applies with soldiers in war zones - lots of sex offences committed by soldiers who realistically, if they hadn't gone to war, would probably have never offended. And in post-conflict societies, it carries on for generations.

    The attitudes that lead to this behaviour aren't innate. Something goes wrong - either with individuals, or with society. And when tragic things happen, we have to ask what it takes for us to look at our society and say this is a huge problem, what can we do to address it. Acting like its somehow victimising men to ask the question is a weak response. A tiny proportion of men are involved in this behaviour: but are we going to ignore it because they're male? Or because they're a tiny proportion? It makes no sense.

    I'm all for targeting the root causes of violence/sexual violence but I don't think that identifying that the perpetrators are predominantly male is going to tell us much, as you say yourself it's a tiny minority of males who carry out these disgusting acts so clearly root cause is more complex than just being a gender issue.

    I don't believe it's as simple as how these men are raised or what pornography they are viewing, I do think that there is probably a mixture of biological, social and nurture issues at the root of these people. I think there are probably endless combinations of each which could be affected by an endless combination of circumstances and as such if there is a solution which can prevent these people developing as they do it would be a complicated one.

    I think where our society is badly failing, and this I believe is the simplest way to diminish the pain that these men cause in the short term, is that our judicial system is woefully inadequate for keeping the general public and the vulnerable safe. I believe that any violent/sexually violent crime should be heavily heavily punished with custodial sentences (not concurrent!).

    If for instance there is a violent young member of society, and we see this very frequently, who has multiple convictions for violent offences they should be locked up for life. Keep them off the streets and crucially prevent them from having children of their own who are also brought up in violent households and learning violent behaviour and bad attitudes towards women (i.e in some cases against their own mother).

    Violence in general is not taken seriously enough in our courts. 3 minor violent offences or 1 serious offence should be punished with at least 10 years in prison without parole. Subsequent convictions should then be punished with life, as in spending the rest of your life in prison. Rape or murder again life, mandatory sentence. This would surely dramatically reduce violent crime in our country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Disagree. He deserved to live with the consequences until a ripe old age. Shooting was too good for him. Too quick.

    Disagree.

    Better off for everyone that he is dead. Zero chance of him reoffending in 10 - 15 years time.


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