Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

BorneTobyWilde

https://twitter.com/jimmymacRTE/status/998287595913166848

fred funk }{

Killed?

jaykay74

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Dunno why they are shooting an unarmed man if he is unarmed which is likely.

Dont let a lack of facts get in the way anyway!

Mrs cockett

Ray Donovan wrote: »

If the abductor has been shot & killed and the girl is found safe & alive is that a successful result all round?

Too right it is

The Talking Bread

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

that remains to be seen.

what remains to be seen??/

Are you seriously questioning An Gardai's efforts today?

What Username Guidelines

wellwhynot wrote: »

I am hoping they shot him to protect Jastine and she is safe now.

Let's hope so, according to the journal, he was armed with a knife which makes that seem more plausible, as opposed to say pointing a gun at Gardai

http://www.thejournal.ie/missing-woman-enniskerry-4023887-May2018/

It’s understood that the man was armed with a knife.

Ray Donovan

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Killed?

Did soneone not post a minute ago a link to Twitter that said he was dead?

JimPa

fred funk }{ wrote: »

They'd only shoot him if there was an imidiate risk to life of someone. This must be serious.

Person abducted. Woman missing. Vehicle search - Do not approach!


It was always serious.

duffman13

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

that remains to be seen.

What age are you? You've literally no idea what's happening so maybe hold fire on criticising everything till you actually something to criticise.

Fair play to the Gardai tracking him down, hopefully she's safe and well

Wheres Me Jumper?

Ray Donovan wrote: »

If the abductor has been shot & killed and the girl is found safe & alive is that a successful result all round?

what if he was a serial abductor/killer?

Omackeral

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Dunno why they are shooting an unarmed man if he is unarmed which is likely.

Ah go and sh*te would ya. People are forever calling the Gardai useless and saying they do nothing right. Seems they've got it spot on here. Couldn't give a monkeys if he's unarmed, you abduct someone, that's the chance you take.

duffman13

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

what if he was a serial abductor/killer?

What if, what if!

Wheres Me Jumper?

JimPa wrote: »

Person abducted. Woman missing. Vehicle search - Do not approach!


It was always serious.

Jasus. when you put it like that ...

Cunning Stunt

Please god they have found her! Surely they wouldnt shoot the main suspect if they still didnt know where she is?

fred funk }{

JimPa wrote: »

Person abducted. Woman missing. Vehicle search - Do not approach!


It was always serious.

When the Guards shoot someone in this country it's normally very serious. That's what I meant and I didnt mean it wasn't already a serious situation.

rayc

Journal says woman found at the scene, condition critical

OldMrBrennan83

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honeybear

rayc wrote: »

Journal says woman found at the scene, condition critical

Please God she survives

tayto lover

rayc wrote: »

Journal says woman found at the scene, condition critical

Let's hope she makes it.

Omackeral

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Maybe applaud and appreciate their efforts today which is the subject of the forum.

Perish the thoughts Breadman! Applauding the Gardai? Can't be done. Most of the moaners that love moaning wouldn't have the cojones to do what they do on a weekly basis I bet.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Omackeral wrote: »

Ah go and sh*te would ya. People are forever calling the Gardai useless and saying they do nothing right. Seems they've got it spot on here. Couldn't give a monkeys if he's unarmed, you abduct someone, that's the chance you take.

so do you think the cops should shoot all suspected abductors?

McCrack

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

Please god they have found her! Surely they wouldnt shoot the main suspect if they still didnt know where she is?

Well if he was pointing a gun at them or running at them with a knife for example of course the Gardai are going to shoot him

Qrt

I doubt they'd shoot if he was armed with a knife and alone. Hopefully she is found safe.

TheChosenOne_

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

so do you think the cops should shoot all suspected abductors?

Cop on would you. Pure attention seeker is all you are. It's hardly a 'suspected' abductor now is it?

Laois_Man

Cunning Stunt wrote: »

Please god they have found her! Surely they wouldnt shoot the main suspect if they still didnt know where she is?

I’m worried that they’re not saying she’s been found and is OK

You’d wonder also could this guy be connected to the discovery in Lucan the other day

Isco

From the Irish Times "Gardai believe the man was armed. Ms Valdez was in his car when he produced what gardai believed was a gun after he was approached by a detective."

BattleCorp

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

so do you think the cops should shoot all suspected abductors?

When the woman he kidnapped is critically injured on the scene, then YES.

McCrack

Im not hearing good news about her im afraid

Omackeral

Patww79 wrote: »

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Couldn't give a rats about him really and wouldn't wish death on him either tbh, just hope Jastine is gonna be ok.

Wheres Me Jumper?

tayto lover wrote: »

Let's hope she makes it.

please God

Panjandrums

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mikemac2

Have the call of duty marksmen arrived yet demanding to know about precise limb shots which of course they can do from their couch

fred funk }{

Isco wrote: »

From the Irish Times "Gardai believe the man was armed. Ms Valdez was in his car when he produced what gardai believed was a gun after he was approached by a detective."

Jasus. Hope she wasn't caught in the crossfire.

BattleCorp

Laois_Man wrote: »

I’m worried that they’re not saying she’s been found and is OK

She has been found but She's not ok. Critically injured.

bladespin

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote:

so do you think the cops should shoot all suspected abductors?

Found armed and holding a victim?

Yes, I'd praise that policy alright.

The Talking Bread

Stop replying to this gombeen. (Where my jumper)
Clearly looking to act controversial and be the central protagonist on a thread with high traffic. This is a very sensitive situation and thread so just f*ck off with your attention seeking sh*te.

jaykay74

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

so do you think the cops should shoot all suspected abductors?

Whats "suspected" about this guy ?

Suckit

Hopefully they will be able to save her...
Hope that scumbag lives long enough to see the hurt he has caused everyone before he dies.

Although I am not entirely sure that would matter to someone like that.

BattleCorp

Panjandrums wrote: »

Source?

Irish Times website. Go Google.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Laois_Man wrote: »

I’m worried that they’re not saying she’s been found and is OK

You’d wonder also could this guy be connected to the discovery in Lucan the other day

apparently that was 13y/old kids according to our 'er well informed posters.

wellwhynot

Excellent work by the Gardai. I hope she pulls through now.

BorneTobyWilde

This could all have been handled badly, she was alive and well until they cornered him into a reaction. Then they shoot him for harming her. It's a big mess if that's the case.

sdanseo

Qrt wrote: »

I doubt they'd shoot if he was armed with a knife and alone. Hopefully she is found safe.

Completely depends on the first Guards on scene. If it was local detective unit no taser and possibly no ASP/spray immediately on hand. Firearm the only immediate option.

If ARU got to him first the chances are he was acting in a way which presented an immediate threat which only a firearm could tackle.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

This could all have been handled badly, she was alive and well until they cornered him into a reaction. Then they shoot him for harming her. It's a big mess if that's the case.

You'd think this is very unlikely. While Garda management is a complete basket case, the individuals on the ground have a record of being very professional of late.

Wheres Me Jumper?

Suckit wrote: »

Hopefully they will be able to save her...
Hope that scumbag lives long enough to see the hurt he has caused everyone before he dies.

do you think he'll even care?

Omackeral

Isco wrote: »

From the Irish Times "Gardai believe the man was armed. Ms Valdez was in his car when he produced what gardai believed was a gun after he was approached by a detective."

Well if that's what they believe they saw, it's unlucky Mr Abductor no matter what the case is. They're covered in bubblewrap as far as procedure goes.

Thesomersarms

Tweet saying suspect is dead and air support has been called in to look for her

tayto lover

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

This could all have been handled badly, she was alive and well until they cornered him into a reaction. Then they shoot him for harming her. It's a big mess if that's the case.

Hindsight is a great thing.

vicwatson

Niall o Connor from the mirror is on site and said he’s been told the girl is not with him

Suckit

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

This could all have been handled badly, she was alive and well until they cornered him into a reaction. Then they shoot him for harming her. It's a big mess if that's the case.

I was thinking the same, but the flip side is, would they wait until he did harm her?

honeybear

RTÉ 9 o’ clock news saying suspect injured