Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

ifElseThen

Hannibal Lecter: He covets. That is his nature. And how do we begin to covet, Clarice? Do we seek out things to covet? No. We begin by coveting what we see every day.

My initial thoughts on this was that he was maybe served by Jastine who probably gave him a polite smile while serving him, shot the breeze maybe, and then he became obsessed from afar.

ellejay

Deleted User wrote: »

Correct me if wrong, Bray people, but I believe Jastine worked in the restaurant by the Civic Centre. Think it's called Koi. Put to bed the frankly stupid rumours of MH falling in love with her over the bar.

No, that's not the "rumour."
She worked somewhere else doing something else.

I don't know why the information hasn't been publicly released.

cagefactor

ellejay wrote: »

No, that's not the "rumour."
She worked somewhere else doing something else.

I don't know why the information hasn't been publicly released.

Spill the beans on the rumours

ellejay

ellejay wrote: »

No, that's not the "rumour."
She worked somewhere else doing something else.

I don't know why the information hasn't been publicly released.

Eh?

It is speculated in this thread that she was a barmaid.
She wasn't.

What rumour?

Conor1974

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Eh?

It is speculated in this thread that she was a barmaid.
She wasn't.

What rumour?

✋🀚

Suckit

Deleted User wrote: »

Eh?

It is speculated in this thread that she was a barmaid.
She wasn't.

What rumour?

We are probably better off not knowing. I have a feeling it is something ridiculous.

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Jastines remains arrived in Phillipines today.
https://extra.ie/2018/06/01/news/irish-news/jastine-valdezs-remains-arrive-philippines

This is a lovely picture. Very sad.

Strazdas

Suckit wrote: »

We are probably better off not knowing. I have a feeling it is something ridiculous.

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Jastines remains arrived in Phillipines today.
https://extra.ie/2018/06/01/news/irish-news/jastine-valdezs-remains-arrive-philippines

This is a lovely picture. Very sad.

That pic was released by her parents yesterday. I have to admit I get a lump in my throat every time I see a photo of her, especially this one. She was a beautiful angel.

tara73

Deleted User wrote: »

Eh?

It is speculated in this thread that she was a barmaid.
She wasn't.

What rumour?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/detectives-search-for-any-link-between-killer-and-his-victim-470992.html

alright, so in this article they wrote: it is reported that she worked in a restaurant in Enniskerry or Bray. Guards are firming it up.

So that's true, it's not confirmed, it's just a rumour.

But how are you so completely sure she wasn't? Do you have special information?

weldoninhio

ifElseThen wrote: »

Hannibal Lecter: He covets. That is his nature. And how do we begin to covet, Clarice? Do we seek out things to covet? No. We begin by coveting what we see every day.

My initial thoughts on this was that he was maybe served by Jastine who probably gave him a polite smile while serving him, shot the breeze maybe, and then he became obsessed from afar.

FFS. Grow up.

OldMrBrennan83

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tara73

tara73 wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/detectives-search-for-any-link-between-killer-and-his-victim-470992.html

alright, so in this article they wrote: it is reported that she worked in a restaurant in Enniskerry or Bray. Guards are firming it up.

So that's true, it's not confirmed, it's just a rumour.

But how are you so completely sure she wasn't? Do you have special information?

Yes. She was a waitress. News reports at the time were confirming this. No special information, the same information that everyone had.

Creative83

Suckit wrote: »

We are probably better off not knowing. I have a feeling it is something ridiculous.

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Jastines remains arrived in Phillipines today.
https://extra.ie/2018/06/01/news/irish-news/jastine-valdezs-remains-arrive-philippines

This is a lovely picture. Very sad.

This photo choked me up. It is very sad... RIP

Shadow1983

There before the grace of God go I. Could have been anyone of our us, our family, friends, neighbours or children, God bless you Jastine, I pray you're at peace now.

tara73

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes. She was a waitress. News reports at the time were confirming this. No special information, the same information that everyone had.

Jesus, so why you then said one post before she wasn't?

just not worth to engage with some people..

Suckit

tara73 wrote: »

Jesus, so why you then said one post before she wasn't?

just not worth to engage with some people..

She was a Waitress, not a Barmaid.

weldoninhio

Patww79 wrote: »

Is it all that hard to believe? He was obviously a nutjob.

Is a fictional movie about a highly educated serial killer transposed onto something random that happened in Bray hard to believe???


Yes, and to do it is pathetic.

Strazdas

Lovely article about Jastine today in the Irish Times from their reporter in the Philippines. It's good to hear about her life story and the type of person she was.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/family-remembers-jastine-valdez-she-is-the-sweetest-1.3516654

tara73

tara73 wrote: »

Jesus, so why you then said one post before she wasn't?

just not worth to engage with some people..

Barmaid is not waitress.

Read.

KathleenGrant

The arguing over trivial details in this thread is tiresome. Piece on Jastine is very touching. She seems to have been a wonderful person.

Suckit

KathleenGrant wrote: »

The arguing over trivial details in this thread is tiresome. Piece on Jastine is very touching. She seems to have been a wonderful person.

It is not entirely trivial if you are referring to the barmaid/waitress comments.
It is also not really arguing.

There seems to be a rumour connecting Jastine with MH (I haven't heard it, so couldn't say what it is exactly.), when she was a barmaid. Assuming he frequented the pub that she was a barmaid in.

It was never reported that she was a barmaid, and a restaurant customer frequenting a restaurant would be a lot more noticeable.
If anything, I would say it is people just trying to help quash the rumours.

Strazdas

KathleenGrant wrote: »

The arguing over trivial details in this thread is tiresome. Piece on Jastine is very touching. She seems to have been a wonderful person.

Hard working and a conscientious student by the sound of things, absolutely devoted to her extended family. If there is one tiny glimmer of positivity in this story, it's that she got to spend a few years living with her parents, giving them many precious memories.

KathleenGrant

Suckit wrote: »

It is not entirely trivial if you are referring to the barmaid/waitress comments.
It is also not really arguing.

There seems to be a rumour connecting Jastine with MH (I haven't heard it, so couldn't say what it is exactly.), when she was a barmaid. Assuming he frequented the pub that she was a barmaid in.

It was never reported that she was a barmaid, and a restaurant customer frequenting a restaurant would be a lot more noticeable.
If anything, I would say it is people just trying to help quash the rumours.

It's not just the barmaid/waitress thing. It's the whole he looks like a freak/he is only socially awkward.....the garda is a hero/ the garda over-reacted.....She was a waitress/she was a barmaid.... of them all the waitress/barmaid most trivial but all annoying.

KathleenGrant

KathleenGrant wrote: »

It's not just the barmaid/waitress thing. It's the whole he looks like a freak/he is only socially awkward.....the garda is a hero/ the garda over-reacted.....She was a waitress/she was a barmaid.... of them all the waitress/barmaid most trivial but all annoying.

No offense but you have completely missed the point here.

It's not trivial because it puts an end to a common rumour that speculates that they knew each other, and how they would know each other. Putting that rumour to bed is very pertinent, IMO.

KathleenGrant

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No offense but you have completely missed the point here.

It's not trivial because it puts an end to a common rumour that speculates that they knew each other, and how they would know each other. Putting that rumour to bed is very pertinent, IMO.

So if she was a barmaid they knew each other and if she was a waitress they didn't. OK. NOW I get it NOT!

Strazdas

Suckit wrote: »

It is not entirely trivial if you are referring to the barmaid/waitress comments.
It is also not really arguing.

There seems to be a rumour connecting Jastine with MH (I haven't heard it, so couldn't say what it is exactly.), when she was a barmaid. Assuming he frequented the pub that she was a barmaid in.

It was never reported that she was a barmaid, and a restaurant customer frequenting a restaurant would be a lot more noticeable.
If anything, I would say it is people just trying to help quash the rumours.

One of the newspapers last week cleared up the issue of where Jastine worked :

Julie Ann was a regular customer in the Blue Ginger Chinese restaurant on Bray’s Main Street where Jastine worked. Entering, Jastine “would always be there, smiling,” said Julie Ann.

Jastine was “so nice and friendly but very shy” with it, recalled Julie Ann. “She’s not the girl who would jump in [to a conversation].”

If there was any connection between she and the killer, I would say it would be purely down to him acting as a stalker, probably without her knowledge (and I'd be sceptical of that scenario).

KathleenGrant

KathleenGrant wrote: »

So if she was a barmaid they knew each other and if she was a waitress they didn't. OK. NOW I get it NOT!

Yeah, I think I'll just have to accept that you're not going to "get it", at this stage.

KathleenGrant

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, I think I'll just have to accept that you're not going to "get it", at this stage.

Great, otherwise it will turn into another stupid argument.

Strazdas

Another nice article about Jastine, this time by the Irish Daily Mail's Michelle Fleming who is out in the Philippines.....a really well written piece

https://extra.ie/2018/06/03/news/jastine-valdez-thanks-irish-for-support

Strazdas

The funeral of Jastine Valdez has taken place in the Philippines today :

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/jastine-valdez-funeral-held-in-philippines-weeks-after-murder-1.3551133

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/jastine-valdez-funeral-1.3551080

May she Rest in Peace

Star Bingo

Bless her, and everybody connected to her back in Aritao she was angelic and remains in our hearts.

The Nal

Did they ever get to the bottom of the friend who didn't report Hennesey to the police when he saw him on Killiney beach?

acai berry

The Nal wrote: »

Did they ever get to the bottom of the friend who didn't report Hennesey to the police when he saw him on Killiney beach?

Good question, The Nal. I'd guess he is a person who has something to hide regarding himself.

Now that Jastine has been buried with all the honours she deserves, I'm wondering will the parents ever bring themselves to return to Ireland.

R.I.P. Jasmine!

Purple Mountain

acai berry wrote: »

R.I.P. Jasmine!

It's Jastine.

AmberGold

Any update on the investigation into Hennessy & connections to other crimes?

Strazdas

acai berry wrote: »

Good question, The Nal. I'd guess he is a person who has something to hide regarding himself.

Now that Jastine has been buried with all the honours she deserves, I'm wondering will the parents ever bring themselves to return to Ireland.

R.I.P. Jasmine!

Apparently her parents plan to return to live in Ireland early next year.

It's been a horrific tragedy and loss for them though. We should never even have heard of Jastine, the odds of her being abducted off the street and murdered in such a fashion by a random maniac must have been millions to one. She was so unlucky.

TomOnBoard

AmberGold wrote: »

Any update on the investigation into Hennessy & connections to other crimes?

Not seen anything reported. In the light of AGS apparent unwillingness to update the public directly (except through feeding information to favoured reporters) I don't expect that we'll be told anything unless a clear connection is found. I'm sure his DNA has been checked to any DNA evidence that might exist from those other crimes by now. If any matches had been found, I'm sure it would be all over the news. Unfortunately, where ppl just disappeared and were never found, the lack of a crime scene and/or victim remains means that evidence like perpetrator DNA will not have been collected so comparison with Hennessy's DNA is not possible.

Strazdas

AmberGold wrote: »

Any update on the investigation into Hennessy & connections to other crimes?

The only thing that was in the press recently was that his life had been spiralling out of control for months and he had been running up big drug debts. It doesn't sound like he had killed before, more like he was going off the rails and heading towards a big blow up.

Impossible to know what was going on in his head that evening. I was reading one forensic psychologist suggest he may have been fantasising about killing someone for months and that it was less likely to have been a spur of the moment decision.

acai berry

Purple Mountain wrote: »

It's Jastine.

Sorry for my mistake. Just a typo.

sightband

acai berry wrote: »

Sorry for my mistake. Just a typo.

Dafuq is the point in this thread still being open? Mods in like a flash if anything slightly libellous is posted or something they don’t agree with but this is just pure voyeurism at this stage, two deaths, no winners. All tragic....yet keep commenting.

Skylinehead

Entirely valid point, closed.