Dun Laoghaire to Greystones.

NUTLEY BOY

As we know services are variously suspended due to a fire on Friday in Bray.

What are the technical reasons why trains cannot be run if the tracks are unaffected ?

I appreciate that if the signals are not operative and or the controllers cannot see electronically where trains are at any time that is a huge safety problem. Is it not possible to control train movements manually by direct contact with drivers who can be cleared from point to point along the system or is that just too dangerous ?

loyatemu

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

As we know services are variously suspended due to a fire on Friday in Bray.

What are the technical reasons why trains cannot be run if the tracks are unaffected ?

I appreciate that if the signals are not operative and or the controllers cannot see electronically where trains are at any time that is a huge safety problem. Is it not possible to control train movements manually by direct contact with drivers who can be cleared from point to point along the system or is that just too dangerous ?

apparently the DART relies on electronic signals from the signalling system. If it's not receiving them it gets speed-limited to 15km/h. Hence the skeleton service between Bray and Dalkey, and the non-service between Bray and Greystones.

tabbey

Notices at stations indicate the disruption will continue until further notice. Have the management no idea of how long the repairs will take?

Meanwhile Greystones is an interesting place, trains for Wexford & Rosslare have to wait for buses / coaches to arrive with passengers from the city and / or Bray.
Buses are on hire from various operators, especially Finnegan of Bray, but including a Neoplan from Pierce Kavanagh of Urlingford.

A 2900 class railcar (29x12) was in the siding while ICR headed south, then moved to the down platform to wait for the next wave of buses.

Passenger numbers very much diminished, the public are probably using their cars, or using buses which continue down the N11, rather than trundling over Bray Head.

Del.Monte

Very convenient fire for IE as it helps test their long term plan of ending rail services south of Bray.

Fred Swanson

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Losty Dublin

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DMU's can be fuelled, watered and drained of discharged waters pretty much anywhere that a truck call pull up to. Basic mechanical checks can be done trackside as well. Anything else and they would have to go back to a depot.

tabbey

Currently Dalkey to Bray is limited service, to town in the morning, back to Bray in the evening.

It runs both directions on the up track only.

It is not just the signalling, but points as well.

A back-up system is to be tested this weekend, but this is not a full system. Full service is further in the future.

This evening the down (southbound) trains used the facing crossover to reach the up platform, while trains terminating in Dalkey, sat in the down platforms, picking up northbound passengers.

It is quite weird, especially seeing the rusting rails on the down track, south of Dalkey.

There is one good thing in this fiasco, the two crossovers at the city end of Dalkey still survive. Without them the situation would be much worse. Let us hope IR learn from this and desist from further removal of crossovers.

Stephen15

tabbey wrote: »

Currently Dalkey to Bray is limited service, to town in the morning, back to Bray in the evening.

It runs both directions on the up track only.

It is not just the signalling, but points as well.

A back-up system is to be tested this weekend, but this is not a full system. Full service is further in the future.

This evening the down (southbound) trains used the facing crossover to reach the up platform, while trains terminating in Dalkey, sat in the down platforms, picking up northbound passengers.

It is quite weird, especially seeing the rusting rails on the down track, south of Dalkey.

There is one good thing in this fiasco, the two crossovers at the city end of Dalkey still survive. Without them the situation would be much worse. Let us hope IR learn from this and desist from further removal of crossovers.

I wonder what sort of service would we get with a back up system. Perhaps a half hourly frequency? With trains going a bit faster.

tabbey

Stephen15 wrote: »

I wonder what sort of service would we get with a back up system. Perhaps a half hourly frequency? With trains going a bit faster.

God only knows, or perhaps some engineer.

cython

Stephen15 wrote: »

I wonder what sort of service would we get with a back up system. Perhaps a half hourly frequency? With trains going a bit faster.

Full service seems to be resuming tomorrow:

https://twitter.com/IrishRail/status/1000362626629685249

Unclear from that whether full weekday service will resume Monday, but can only hope in the absence of info to the contrary?

Stephen15

cython wrote: »

Full service seems to be resuming tomorrow:

https://twitter.com/IrishRail/status/1000362626629685249

Unclear from that whether full weekday service will resume Monday, but can only hope in the absence of info to the contrary?

Full will resume from Sunday would suggest no more distruption

cython

Stephen15 wrote: »

Full will resume from Sunday would suggest no more distruption

You would think so, yes, but then there's the Irish Rail factor, so I take nothing for granted.

Stephen15

cython wrote: »

You would think so, yes, but then there's the Irish Rail factor, so I take nothing for granted.

Very true alright

tabbey

It is good news.
Let us hope for the best.