Mexican stand off at RTE Primetime

drunkmonkey

RTE refusing to let Maria Steen on after all No groups nominate her to speak.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/abortion-referendum/mexican-standoff-between-rt-and-speakers-just-hours-ahead-of-final-televised-referendum-debate-36935170.html

My money says Harris won't allow it.

SEPT 23 1989

The no side wiped the floor with them the last time

RTE won't let that happen again

Impartiality? Absolute joke

verycool

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The no side wiped the floor with them the last time

*clapping*

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

RTE won't let that happen again

*clapping and whooping*

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Impartiality? Absolute joke

*clapping and orgasmic moans*

Happy4all

drunkmonkey wrote: »

RTE refusing to let Maria Steen on after all No groups nominate her to speak.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/abortion-referendum/mexican-standoff-between-rt-and-speakers-just-hours-ahead-of-final-televised-referendum-debate-36935170.html

My money says Harris won't allow it.

You either don't know the full facts or are deliberately trying to mislead people.

Mutant z

I can't wait until next week when it will all be over i can't take much more of this.

drunkmonkey

Happy4all wrote: »

You either don't know the full facts or are deliberately trying to mislead people.

What? We know RTE won't let the No side be represented by who the No side want.

That's not RTE it's Harris he wouldn't have went on knowing Maria was going to be there. She'd eat him for breakfast and well he knows it.

It's funny, yes side have scored an own goal before it even starts.

AGC

verycool wrote: »

*clapping*





*clapping and whooping*





*clapping and orgasmic moans*

Both sides were at that

Roll on Saturday when it’s done. Such an important issue that’s been turned into a slagging match.

Coillte_Bhoy

Happy4all wrote: »

You either don't know the full facts or are deliberately trying to mislead people.

Im intrigued,what are the full facts?

Hitman3000

SEPT 23 1989 wrote:

The no side wiped the floor with them the last time

If you mean those that engaged in shouting, whooping and hollering won the debate, then yep the No side won. Told lots of lies bit once they won right?

byhookorbycrook

The No side candidate refused to go on at the last minute, your issue is with them, not RTE, but sure what do you care about facts?

alan partridge aha

I'm a No voter, but I think Harris might do well in a debate against whoever

Coillte_Bhoy

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

The No side candidate refused to go on at the last minute, your issue is with them, not RTE, but sure what do you care about facts?

What? sorry but im just coming to this but what does that mean in relation to tonight's debate?

If she's the one nominated then put her on, what are they afraid of?

Coillte_Bhoy

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

If she's the one nominated then put her on, what are they afraid of?

afaik she wasn't, they nominated Sherlock and want to make last minute substitution

Atlantic Dawn

Mutant z wrote: »

I can't wait until next week when it will all be over i can't take much more of this.

I've wondering will there be some scrappage scheme for all the Repeal clothing and the Yes and No badges.

Coillte_Bhoy

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

afaik she wasn't, they nominated Sherlock and want to make last minute substitution

But what is the problem if they do?

Hitman3000

Cora Sherlock agreed last Thursday to debate on tonight's programme, she pulled out a few hours ago. RTE is claiming they will not let Maria Steen on as she was on the CB show last week for a debate. RTE has also taken issue with either side dictating their line up.

Hitman3000

drunkmonkey wrote:

It's funny, yes side have scored an own goal before it even starts.

Not sure how you have worked that out? It's RTE that is taking issue not the Repeal groups.

drunkmonkey

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Not sure how you have worked that out? It's RTE that is taking issue not the Repeal groups.

Because not allowing her on when she's backed by all the No groups is biased. If RTE are impartial they shouldn't have a problem and be glad of getting a good speaker at late notice.

lawred2

drunkmonkey wrote: »

RTE refusing to let Maria Steen on after all No groups nominate her to speak.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/abortion-referendum/mexican-standoff-between-rt-and-speakers-just-hours-ahead-of-final-televised-referendum-debate-36935170.html

My money says Harris won't allow it.

Lol at that Sherlock one pulling out after accusing Harris of hiding

Happy4all

lawred2 wrote: »

Lol at that Sherlock one pulling out after accusing Harris of hiding

Yep she called him out personally about hiding. He agreed to debate with her, suddenly she is running away.

Hitman3000

Again how does it reflect badly on the Repeal groups. The issue is with RTE. As in when Google banned all ads from both sides it was Google who made the decision , neither campaigning group was responsible.

Fann Linn

Regardless of Sherlock's position, how can RTE decide who represents who?

Fann Linn

Fann Linn wrote: »

Regardless of Sherlock's position, how can RTE decide who represents who?

+1 Sherlock may look a fool for running away if she called him out, but Steen is their nominated rep

Hitman3000

Fann Linn wrote:

Regardless of Sherlock's position, how can RTE decide who represents who?

They are saying they do not agree with either side dictating their line up.

Fann Linn

Hitman3000 wrote: »

They are saying they do not agree with either side dictating their line up.

But RTE should be there to facilitate, not dictate.

drunkmonkey

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Again how does it select badly on the Repeal groups. The issue is with RTE. As in when Google banned all ads from both sides it was Google who made the decision , neither campaigning group was responsible.

RTE are saying she had a go last week so she can't this week but they gave Boylan a second shot on the late late show.
There being biased.

BarryD2

drunkmonkey wrote: »

RTE refusing to let Maria Steen on after all No groups nominate her to speak.

Maria Steen is not everyone's cup of tea. Frankly she was somewhat unwatchable last time, so I wouldn't blame RTE. They want people to watch, not throw the TV out the window!

Hitman3000

Hitman3000 wrote: »

They are saying they do not agree with either side dictating their line up.

Well if RTE can dictate the line up then it sounds like RTE are playing politics?

Wouldn't be unknown... :pac:

Hurrache

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What? We know RTE won't let the No side be represented by who the No side want.

That's not RTE it's Harris he wouldn't have went on knowing Maria was going to be there. She'd eat him for breakfast and well he knows it.

It's funny, yes side have scored an own goal before it even starts.

She's been given plenty of debate time, it's only right that there's a different panel.

The obvious reason is that the No side have no confidence in Sherlock as she's been crying out for debate with Harris up until this point.

Neither side have a right to say who goes on our TV, and you're big eejits if you think it's a conspiracy.

Clareman

lawred2 wrote: »

Lol at that Sherlock one pulling out after accusing Harris of hiding

LOL at pulling out references, if that was done there'd be no need for the refendum

I joke I joke

Jeff2

I'll have to watch this match.
Kickoff in 10 minutes.

Fann Linn

Hurrache wrote: »

She's been given plenty of debate time, it's only right that there's a different panel.

The obvious reason is that the No side have no confidence in Sherlock as she's been crying out for debate with Harris up until this point.

Neither side have a right to say who goes on our TV, and you're big eejits if you think it's a conspiracy.

If she's the agreed candidate for the No side what is the problem.

Hurrache

Fann Linn wrote: »

If she's the agreed candidate for the No side what is the problem.

Who, Sherlock?

Subcomandante Marcos

RTE have no obligation to make a "star" out of robots like Maria Steen who have been groomed and media trained from birth for this job.

Harris agreed to debate Sherlock, RTE agreed to host it. Sherlock realised she'd be eaten alive and did a legger, boo hoo.

Berserker

Mutant z wrote: »

I can't wait until next week when it will all be over i can't take much more of this.

Agree with you 100%. I'm out of the country from Friday to Sunday morning and I'm delighted. Have it in my head that it'll all be over by the time I come back but I'm probably wrong.

Dial Hard

drunkmonkey wrote:

It's funny, yes side have scored an own goal before it even starts.

Ok I'll bite. Please explain for those of us in the cheap seats how Cora Sherlock pulling out has anything whatsoever to do with the Yes side, let alone constituting an own goal? I'm genuinely puzzled as to the logic here.

Sesame

Two of podiums removed. Looks like it's going to be one on one.

I invite all to return to this thread when its over to loudly claim victory for their own side, no matter how well or badly the debate actually goes :pac:

drunkmonkey

Dial Hard wrote: »

Ok I'll bite. Please explain for those of us in the cheap seats how Cora Sherlock pulling out has anything whatsoever to do with the Yes side, let alone constituting an own goal? I'm genuinely puzzled as to the logic here.

RTE are appearing biased. Let her speak if the No side want her.

Atlantic Dawn

They need bouncers for this, anyone being a tool in the audience needs to be fecked out on their arse.

lawred2

Harris will need to get his anti repeal to pro repeal reasoning out in the open as early as possible..

Otherwise it'll be used as a one size fits all rebuttal by whoever he debates

Atlantic Dawn

I can see this being a car crash.

Coillte_Bhoy

quintana76

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Well if RTE can dictate the line up then it sounds like RTE are playing politics?

Wouldn't be unknown... :pac:

They got their man Michael D elected in a similar scenario.

Ally Dick

This will be rigged in favour of the Yes side

quintana76

quintana76 wrote: »

They got their man Michael D elected in a similar scenario.

It had crossed my mind.....

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Maria Steen was due to appear on the Pat Kenny debate tomorrow night on TV3. But it appears she has pulled out of that as well.

The No side imploding.

Berserker

Ally Dick wrote: »

This will be rigged in favour of the Yes side

There has been a pretty clear bias in favour of the Yes side in the media and RTE, in particular and that's coming from someone who would be a Yes voter.

An Ciarraioch

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Happy4all wrote: »

You either don't know the full facts or are deliberately trying to mislead people.

Im intrigued,what are the full facts?

That Steen is on Pat Kenny's TV3 debate tomorrow, and was already booked before Sherlock's RTE withdrawal, so appears to have been a contrived stunt by No.

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The No side did something similar right before the Marriage Referendum as well. It's an attempt to portray themselves as victims, when really they are just losing the argument.