Mexican stand off at RTE Primetime

Ally Dick

McCullough is showing his pro choice teeth now

Ally Dick

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

That Steen is on Pat Kenny's TV3 debate tomorrow, and was already booked before Sherlock's RTE withdrawal, so appears to have been a contrived stunt by No.

Great. I love looking at and listening to Maria Steen

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The No doctor was really poor. Opposing the 2013 Act and then using it to further his argument.

Hurrache

Ally Dick wrote: »

McCullough is showing his pro choice teeth now

We got it the first time, you're one of eejits I mentioned who thinks everything is a fix.

This ****ing thread.

Pegmatite

Berserker wrote: »

There has been a pretty clear bias in favour of the Yes side in the media and RTE, in particular and that's coming from someone who would be a Yes voter.

How so?
Last week Claire Byrne let Maria Steen and others, shout down and drown out Yes supporters on her show.

Some examples to back up your claim would be great.

The Black Oil

This is a fairly standard response from a broadcaster, and quite reasonable. I'm not a journalist, but from dealing with the media in work they don't like to recycle stories or speakers in a short period of time. It's about ratings and a fresh perspective. There was a mental health story about a suicide a year or two - the family went on Prime Time show during the week, they were then dropped from the Late Late Show because they broke the embargo - again, reasonable.

quintana76

RTE throwing any pretence of neutrality out the window now. Big surprise that.

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It's confirmed that Maria Steen has pulled out of Pat Kenny debate tomorrow. So there must be something going on in the No camp. Imploding with days to go before the vote.

Ally Dick

Hurrache wrote: »

We got it the first time, you're one of eejits I mentioned who thinks everything is a fix.

This ****ing thread.

RTE is clearly pro choice. After the disaster of the Claire Byrne show, they're going to make sure that Yes wins tonight

Fann Linn

Two men debating abortion. What a fcuk up from the state broadcaster.

mzungu

hotmail.com wrote: »

Maria Steen was due to appear on the Pat Kenny debate tomorrow night on TV3. But it appears she has pulled out of that as well.

The No side imploding.

I guess that will be blamed on the Yes side too. It would not surprise me if it was a planned stunt by the No campaign.

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Toibin would force a raped woman to continue her pregnancy.

Atlantic Dawn

Fairly respectful from all so far.

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hotmail.com wrote: »

It's confirmed that Maria Steen has pulled out of Pat Kenny debate tomorrow. So there must be something going on in the No camp. Imploding with days to go before the vote.

If they lose the referendum they will claim they were silenced...

Happy4all

Is it worth switching on?

Berserker

Pegmatite wrote: »

How so?
Last week Claire Byrne let Maria Steen and others, shout down and drown out Yes supporters on her show.

Some examples to back up your claim would be great.

What did you think of the LLS debate from a few weeks back? The discussions around the referendum on Brendan O' Connors show had a similar vibe. I'd also put forward McCullough on the show tonight. I get that these people have their own opinions on the matter but they need to be pros and act with impartiality. Monday night was a utter mess for both sides.

garhjw

Ally Dick wrote: »

RTE is clearly pro choice. After the disaster of the Claire Byrne show, they're going to make sure that Yes wins tonight

I don’t think they are showing bias. It’s just the type of people that support and argue for NO vote aren’t normal. It has been shown time and again. Last weeks debate was a prime example when their behaviour was sub human. As for that Iona institute lot......

Ally Dick

hotmail.com wrote: »

Toibin would force a raped woman to continue her pregnancy.

It's not the child's fault

Pegmatite

Ally Dick wrote: »

RTE is clearly pro choice. After the disaster of the Claire Byrne show, they're going to make sure that Yes wins tonight

Can you back up your claim that RTE is pro choice please. Can you provide some examples please.

lawred2

Ally Dick wrote: »

It's not the child's fault

Not the woman's either

garhjw

Ally Dick wrote: »

It's not the child's fault

And it’s none of your business

Ally Dick

lawred2 wrote: »

Not the woman's either

But we all know where this is heading if you introduce abortion on demand up to 12 weeks

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Ally Dick wrote:

It's not the child's fault

This attitude is just harsh and cruel.

Was their noise from the audience there?

Pegmatite

Berserker wrote: »

What did you think of the LLS debate from a few weeks back? The discussions around the referendum on Brendan O' Connors show had a similar vibe.

Its not what I think, you think there is a bias. I havent seen those debates. Can you explain why you think the debates where biased. What happened to make you belive there was a bias? Some examples would be great thanks.

Berserker

Fann Linn wrote: »

Two men debating abortion. What a fcuk up from the state broadcaster.

The women pulled out to be fair to them.

Ally Dick

Pegmatite wrote: »

Can you back up your claim that RTE is pro choice please. Can you provide some examples please.

Three words - Phillip Boucher Hayes

Berserker

Berserker wrote: »

There has been a pretty clear bias in favour of the Yes side in the media and RTE, in particular and that's coming from someone who would be a Yes voter.

this statement presumes that the sides have an equal justification and quality of logical argument

this not being the case, what you seem to be asking for is for facilitating media platforms to ensure an equal result

frankly the media has done all it can to keep this ugly farce a contest by refusing to fact-check, by refusing to investigate the disgraceful behaviour online, on the streets and in the printed lies of much of the hardcore no side, by refusing to investigate and report on the funding of the no side, and by refusing to moderate the last debate to any decent standard

garhjw

Ally Dick wrote: »

But we all know where this is heading if you introduce abortion on demand up to 12 weeks

Heading where? The no side are the same people that said society would break down if marriage equality was allowed.

With a yes vote it gives women a choice, that mean they don’t have to have an abortion if they don’t want to. Do you find the concept difficult to understand?

Ally Dick

hotmail.com wrote: »

This attitude is just harsh and cruel.

Abortion is extremely harsh and cruel

Ally Dick

garhjw wrote: »

Heading where? The no side are the same people that said society would break down if marriage equality was allowed.

With a yes vote it gives women a choice, that mean they don’t have to have an abortion if they don’t want to. Do you find the concept difficult to understand?

I was all for marriage equality. Nobody was hurt by that.

SEPT 23 1989

There's always a correct reason

So it's on demand

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Cora and the No side teased Harris about debating the issue and then doesn't show up for the debate.

Pegmatite

Ally Dick wrote: »

Three words - Phillip Boucher Hayes

Sorry, I need more then that. What has Hayes done to show bias?
Has anyone else in RTE shown bias?

Ronan|Raven

Ally Dick wrote: »

RTE is clearly pro choice. After the disaster of the Claire Byrne show, they're going to make sure that Yes wins tonight

Ah stop talking ****e.

Ronan|Raven

Ally Dick wrote: »

Three words - Phillip Boucher Hayes

The same PBH who had one of the best series of interviews with people from both sides of the debate over the last few months?

thomas anderson.

Rte bias showing yet again. Clearly pushing their No agenda

Fann Linn

Harris- 'I love answering questions'.

Well Mr. Harris ye were very slow in answering questions in relation to the cervical cancer scandal.

Berserker

Pegmatite wrote: »

Its not what I think, you think there is a bias. I havent seen those debates. Can you explain why you think the debates where biased. What happened to make you belive there was a bias? Some examples would be great thanks.

Well, if you watch them, you see it pretty clearly. I'd suggest that you detach yourself from the emotional aspect of the debate. Lots of Irish people seem to struggle with this.

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thomas anderson. wrote:

Rte bias showing yet again. Clearly pushing their No agenda

Berserker wrote:

Well, if you watch them, you see it pretty clearly. I'd suggest that you detach yourself from the emotional aspect of the debate. Lots of Irish people seem to struggle with this.

Or is it that one side is winning the argument?

Hitman3000

Fann Linn wrote:

Well Mr. Harris ye were very slow in answering questions in relation to the cervical cancer scandal.

He answered when he found out about it. Although I don't see the connection. Sherlock has been goading him for months to debate. He agrees and she pulls out. Hilarious.

Pegmatite

Berserker wrote: »

Well, if you watch them, you see it pretty clearly. I'd suggest that you detach yourself from the emotional aspect of the debate. Lots of Irish people seem to struggle with this.

Can you just give me examples of bias from the debates. I dont think they are on the RTE player anymore.

And you are pretty insistent there is a bias, so it shouldn't really be a problem giving me examples.


Thanks in advance.

pleas advice

It's de facto on request/ elective abortion in the UK, why deny it?

EPAndlee

I can't wait to turn on the radio or TV and not hear anything about this

Hitman3000

Is this going to become another abortion thread?

Ally Dick

It least I will have one thing to look forward to after the YES side inevitably win - Mattie McGrath and the Healy Raes blocking the legislation in the Dail

Ally Dick

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

The same PBH who had one of the best series of interviews with people from both sides of the debate over the last few months?

The same PBH that grills pro life callers to Liveline and gives pro choice callers free reign

Ally Dick

Ally Dick wrote: »

It least I will have one thing to look forward to after the YES side inevitably win - Mattie McGrath and the Healy Raes blocking the legislation in the Dail

Wimmins things...... I bet the drink driving is their main focus for now

Atlantic Dawn

I think there should be another referendum on it every 25 years regardless of result.

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EPAndlee wrote:

I can't wait to turn on the radio or TV and not hear anything about this

The only way to ensure this is to vote Yes. Otherwise, this issue will run and run.