The Healy Raes

Water John

I presume Michael and Danny travel to Dublin together. That should be a great saving to the tax man!!!

whisky_galore

orangerhyme wrote: »

The Mayo farmers welcomed their greenway as they knew it served the greater good. It's a huge success.

Not all landowners did and Kerry isn't Mayo.

One worked with landowners for as long as it took, the other waved CPOs around with no consultation. Chalk and cheese.

padd b1975

Water John wrote: »

I presume Michael and Danny travel to Dublin together. That should be a great saving to the tax man!!!

Like Gino and his push bike is it??

irishguitarlad

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/michael-and-danny-healy-rae-miss-80pc-of-vote-sessions-in-the-dil-38632362.html Disgrace.

The J Stands for Jay

irishguitarlad wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/michael-and-danny-healy-rae-miss-80pc-of-vote-sessions-in-the-dil-38632362.html Disgrace.

We can argue all we want about their showboating and whether their right to bring local politics to the national stage, and never agree or get the right answer, but the truth 9f this matter is that they are a disgrace and are showing themselves up as only chasing Kerry votes to stay on the Dáil gravy train.

Jonybgud

Absolutely nothing wrong in fighting for your local area, in fact it's a desired and admirable trait in a politician. It becomes toxic when you can build a dynasty based on nepotism rather than ability.

JHR would have got no traction and wouldn't have amounted to anything on day one only for he was dealing with a totally corrupt government to begin with. He fought fire with fire and was rewarded because of it. I think this should tell us all we need to know about the dynasty built on his legacy.

Horse trading with a corrupt government misappropriating hard earned tax payers money is to be lauded apparently.

HalloweenJack

Guaranteed they don't miss a vote on drink driving.

skerry

irishguitarlad wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/michael-and-danny-healy-rae-miss-80pc-of-vote-sessions-in-the-dil-38632362.html Disgrace.

Seems to be a common theme with the politicians who have been in the news the last few weeks that none of these votes they miss are close run things therefore their vote wouldn't have mattered. Maybe if half of them bothered to show up for work and actually vote there would be closer voting margins.

It's a bad state of affairs when our politicians are telling us votes don't matter, must remember that one when they call to the door next election.

NIMAN

They could never vote again and they'd still get a massive majority in their constituency.

Buford T. Justice XIX

This thread is funny. From giving out about the Healy-Raes being in the Dail at the start of the thread to giving out about the Healy-Raes not being in the Dail at the end of the thread.:D

nigeldaniel

They know how to play the media. I would not be a fan of them myself I might add.

SlowBlowin

Can I ask how people think a TD should divide their time in a working week, assuming they are located in Kerry ?

And if we are saying a TD spends too much time looking after the interests of the people who elected them, perhaps we should quantify what is too much time to be spent on local interests ?

Water John

I think Dail week starts at 2.30pm Tuesday, so plenty time to get up there that day. Finishes Thurs and go home. Two nights in Dublin, full attendance record.

Liamario

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Can I ask how people think a TD should divide their time in a working week, assuming they are located in Kerry ?

And if we are saying a TD spends too much time looking after the interests of the people who elected them, perhaps we should quantify what is too much time to be spent on local interests ?

When their only focus is local interests, they're spending too much time on it. Which appears to be the case.

Rows Grower

Water John wrote: »

I think Dail week starts at 2.30pm Tuesday, so plenty time to get up there that day. Finishes Thurs and go home. Two nights in Dublin, full attendance record.

Two nights in Dublin doesn't sound too bad if you wanted a break every week but for hard working people who might have to travel 4 hours to get there two nights in Dublin is losing half of a six day working week.

SlowBlowin

Water John wrote: »

I think Dail week starts at 2.30pm Tuesday, so plenty time to get up there that day. Finishes Thurs and go home. Two nights in Dublin, full attendance record.

OK so that's Monday and a half day Friday on local matters and the rest of the time travelling and voting.

In that case would it not be fairer to stop all local work by TDs ? If a Dublin based TD can spend twice the time on their constituents than a Kerry TD (rest of the time travelling), and the Kerry TD gets criticised for prioritising ?

Hande hoche!

They should get them an aircraft to speed up the journey. The Healycopter.

fergiesfolly

SlowBlowin wrote: »

OK so that's Monday and a half day Friday on local matters and the rest of the time travelling and voting.

In that case would it not be fairer to stop all local work by TDs ? If a Dublin based TD can spend twice the time on their constituents than a Kerry TD (rest of the time travelling), and the Kerry TD gets criticised for prioritising ?

Michael seems to have no problem travelling to Dublin for tv appearances.
He looks to have spent more time on the Tonight Show on Virgin Media than he has in the Dail.

SlowBlowin

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Michael seems to have no problem travelling to Dublin for tv appearances.
He looks to have spent more time on the Tonight Show on Virgin Media than he has in the Dail.

He is a popular man...

blinding

Hande hoche! wrote: »

They should get them an aircraft to speed up the journey. The Healycopter.

And it could be used for ‘ dropping ‘ lads home from the pub when the Healy Raes weren’t using it .

SlowBlowin

blinding wrote: »

And it could be used for ‘ dropping ‘ lads home from the pub when the Healy Raes weren’t using it .

A bit like the Sopranos !

bmc58

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

Gobsheens of the highest order

Certainly not.Very savvy people.

Rows Grower

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2019/1026/1085832-enda-kenny-dail

Bellview

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Can I ask how people think a TD should divide their time in a working week, assuming they are located in Kerry ?

And if we are saying a TD spends too much time looking after the interests of the people who elected them, perhaps we should quantify what is too much time to be spent on local interests ?

the Healy Rae have 3 family members who are on the council... so should that 3 concentrate on the local stuff and Danny & Michael concentrate on the national stuff... they have a big enough team now around them that (assistants etc all paid for by the state) they should have no excuse not to attend a bigger percentage of voting..as voting at between 10 & 15% of votes is a making a mockery of system... eventhough the HR will start by blaming the system and not themselves

Bellview

bmc58 wrote: »

Certainly not.Very savvy people.

True pretty sharp alright, especially some deals done in the property market

Zaph

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Can I ask how people think a TD should divide their time in a working week, assuming they are located in Kerry ?

And if we are saying a TD spends too much time looking after the interests of the people who elected them, perhaps we should quantify what is too much time to be spent on local interests ?

As was revealed during Votegate, most voting in the Dail takes place in bloc voting every Thursday. If the Healy-Raes can't even be arsed making it up to Dublin for one day a week to vote, then you have to ask wtf they're doing in the Dail in the first place.

blinding

Zaph wrote: »

As was revealed during Votegate, most voting in the Dail takes place in bloc voting every Thursday. If the Healy-Raes can't even be arsed making it up to Dublin for one day a week to vote, then you have to ask wtf they're doing in the Dail in the first place.

Sure you could say that about any of the TDs especially those Voting more than once :eek::eek::eek:

Dank Janniels

All this talk about "Rural Oirland" being dictated by an Dublin urban elite goes out the window when you hear about their 80-90 absentee voting rate

Rows Grower

The Healy-Rae's seem to have a lot of posters in a very firm psychological grip for some reason.

It must be very frustrating, especially when you can't even vote against them.

The J Stands for Jay

Rows Grower wrote: »

The Healy-Rae's seem to have a lot of posters in a very firm psychological grip for some reason.

It must be very frustrating, especially when you can't even vote against them.

Imagine being so psychologically disturbed by the HR crew and wanting to vote against them that you throw yourself into politics and getting elected. You finally make it, and are about to achieve your aim.of voting against them in the Dáil. Then the duckers don't show up...

Edgware

If they were Dublin T.D.s with refined accents and doing the same level of constituency work people would regard them as latter day Dr John O Connells or Tony Gregorys.
Ahern Haughey etc werent getting two quotas for their Dail performances.
All politics is local

Rows Grower

Looking forward to Mike’s second book launch next week, should be a good craic.

Bellview

Rows Grower wrote: »

The Healy-Rae's seem to have a lot of posters in a very firm psychological grip for some reason.

It must be very frustrating, especially when you can't even vote against them.

I believe they were asked to remove one poster by the council from Nancy Myles recently..

mikhail

Edgware wrote: »

Ahern Haughey etc werent getting two quotas for their Dail performances

Yeah, it's called vote management. If you have two quotas, your running mate got screwed.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Indo article about Michael and his book, out in a few days.

https://m.independent.ie/life/i-can-feel-the-hate-off-some-people-michael-healyrae-on-life-politics-and-almost-paralysing-woody-allen-38631442.html

Going by this thread, a best seller, I'd say:D

Bellview

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Indo article about Michael and his book, out in a few days.

https://m.independent.ie/life/i-can-feel-the-hate-off-some-people-michael-healyrae-on-life-politics-and-almost-paralysing-woody-allen-38631442.html

Going by this thread, a best seller, I'd say:D

I though God could only be in 2 places at the same time...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/michael-healyrae-logged-into-dil-on-day-he-was-in-kerry-for-a-funeral-38650938.html

sentence below says it all... he is given a national job which there is a salary top up and he sneaks away to Kerry .. he has 3 councillors in the family to help locally so what are they doing..or does he not trust them

Mr Healy-Rae declined to explain the exact circumstances that led to him miss the speeches despite his key role on the EU committee.

marieholmfan

riemann wrote: »

Surely a walking argument against democracy?

I don't think I've ever heard any of them say anything that displayed any kind of education or knowledge on a subject.

The amount of air time they get is scandalous.

Areas that elect these sort of TDs (who hold the nation to ransom over parish pump issues) should be absolutely hammered when the votes are not needed.


I mean dig up the roads , close the schools, remove eligibility to access health services hammered.




Killorglin Delenda Est!!

goat2

Rows Grower wrote: »

Looking forward to Mike’s second book launch next week, should be a good craic.

What is the title of the book, looking for stocking fillers at the moment

Rows Grower

Bellview wrote: »

I though God could only be in 2 places at the same time...

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/michael-healyrae-logged-into-dil-on-day-he-was-in-kerry-for-a-funeral-38650938.html

sentence below says it all... he is given a national job which there is a salary top up and he sneaks away to Kerry .. he has 3 councillors in the family to help locally so what are they doing..or does he not trust them

Mr Healy-Rae declined to explain the exact circumstances that led to him miss the speeches despite his key role on the EU committee.

God is everywhere.

Rows Grower

goat2 wrote: »

What is the title of the book, looking for stocking fillers at the moment

“A listening ear.”

Oasis1974

I'll buy the book for the sheer belly laughs that's bound to be in it. I presume there's signings happening?

tayto lover

McGaggs wrote: »

Imagine being so psychologically disturbed by the HR crew and wanting to vote against them that you throw yourself into politics and getting elected. You finally make it, and are about to achieve your aim.of voting against them in the Dáil. Then the duckers don't show up...

Did they claim though? You bet ya.

tjhook

I blame the people in the constituencies that elect them.

Those citizens have no right to complain about national or international issues. They have chosen to prioritise local issues completely, to the detriment of all other issues.

goose2005

Edgware wrote: »

If they were Dublin T.D.s with refined accents and doing the same level of constituency work people would regard them as latter day Dr John O Connells or Tony Gregorys.
Ahern Haughey etc werent getting two quotas for their Dail performances.
All politics is local

what a ridiculous statement. Shane Ross is pilloried for favouring his own constituency. And not all politics is local; our problems are national and global in scope and require solutions on those levels.

goose2005

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Just to follow up on my post of charging the state for diesel....seems like they got caught at it

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/politics/healy-rae-claims-euro41k-expenses-in-six-months-103632.html

https://www.thejournal.ie/tds-dail-expenses-since-general-election-2016-2748296-May2016/

Danny Healy-Rae & Michael Healy-Rae (Independent, Kerry): €5,096.51 each
Funny how it is exact same value?

Have the family all on the state payroll
https://www.thesun.ie/news/1368375/the-healy-raes-have-eight-of-the-clan-now-on-the-public-payroll-in-political-jobs-as-kerry-dynasty-rake-in-e485k-from-taxpayers/

Do people not understand you are paying taxes for these clowns? they are sitting back and laughing at all the people in Kerry.

Didn't their father travel on his old age pass but still billed for non-existent train fares?

SlowBlowin

Looks like they are dammed if they do, and dammed if they don't !

This campaign against the Healy Raes by the Dublin based media surely has to be worth a few votes to them in the election in the next few months?

blinding

Sure they are no different than the rest ....all be it a lot more Transparent !

liosnagceann75

Answer your phone Michael. Today fm and Matt Cooper have a few questions for you

whisky_galore

goose2005 wrote: »

what a ridiculous statement. Shane Ross is pilloried for favouring his own constituency. And not all politics is local; our problems are national and global in scope and require solutions on those levels.

Their fans don't care as long as their potholes are filled and they're looked after. The rest of the country may as well be on another planet.