Ulster Bank League 2018-2019 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

stellenbosch

sellit90000 wrote: »

Dan Sheehan was playing according to their twitter and an article in the cambridge independent.

Trinity College Dublin: Conor Dunne; Colm Hogan, Phil Murphy, James Moriarty(u20.5), Ronan Quinn(u19); James Fennelly, Conor Lowndes; Bart Vermeulen(u20), Dan Sheehan, Donnelly, Cian O’Dwyer, Arthur Greene, Rueben Pim(u20), Johnny McKeown, Alex MacDonald.

Replacements: Joe Horan, Simon Clear(u20), Rory Clarke(u20.5), Max Kearney, Aran Egan(u20), Michael O’Kennedy.

About 4 starters on first team-Hogan/Fennelly/Sheehan/McDonald

sellit90000

stellenbosch wrote: »

About 4 starters on first team-Hogan/Fennelly/Sheehan/McDonald

I know, just pointing out they did have 1 leinster academy player.

Do you not expect Pim to start at 6 going forward?

stellenbosch

sellit90000 wrote: »

I know, just pointing out they did have 1 leinster academy player.

Do you not expect Pim to start at 6 going forward?

He will compete for a start for sure but the american McDonald is a very good player and played most of last season at 6. Johny McKeon now also back from injury-hes a 7 and he will compete definitely for a start as well. Nulty is now injured with a shoulder problem. Trinity have lots to chose from in the back 5 now

The Lost Sheep

1B
Old Wesley 23 Naas 31

2A
Blackrock College 8 Cashel 22, Galwegians 12 Old Crescent 13, Highfield 40 Navan 10, Nenagh Ormond 24 Dolphin 23, UL Bohemians 36 Queen's University 24

2B
Belfast Harlequins 0 Greystones 36, Dungannon 15 MU Barnhall 22, Skerries 19 Corinthians 20, Sligo 17 Rainey Old Boys 27, Sunday's Well 17 Wanderers 22

2C
Bangor 10 Bruff 15, Malahide 32 City of Derry 12, Omagh 55 Tullamore 17, Seapoint 23 Ballina 39, Thomond 15 Midleton 38

Mc Love

Good away win for Crescent given the amount of injuries they had in their previous game, good wins for NO, Bohs & Bruff too!

The Lost Sheep

Queens play UCD in Belfast in Dudley cup friday night

young munsters man

i see theres going to be provincial a games in the USA causing clubs to be missing players for last few games of regular season..........lack of respect for club rugby in my view

be interested to hear the views from lads whose clubs are going to be affected

Squidgy Black

young munsters man wrote: »

i see theres going to be provincial a games in the USA causing clubs to be missing players for last few games of regular season..........lack of respect for club rugby in my view

be interested to hear the views from lads whose clubs are going to be affected

There's never really been much consideration for the AIL by the provinces/IRFU when it comes to clubs for a good while, all the issues caused by the B&I cup games that was replaced by the Celtic Cup that they said would resolve most of these issues, and then they setup fixtures in the USA during the ail season instead.

The Lost Sheep

young munsters man wrote: »

i see theres going to be provincial a games in the USA causing clubs to be missing players for last few games of regular season..........lack of respect for club rugby in my view

be interested to hear the views from lads whose clubs are going to be affected

Bit late to the party....
Yes its during the last 3 rounds of games but there could be plenty of contracted players involved in these games that wouldnt have played enough club games to be eligible to play later rounds of AIL.

Squidgy Black wrote: »

There's never really been much consideration for the AIL by the provinces/IRFU when it comes to clubs for a good while, all the issues caused by the B&I cup games that was replaced by the Celtic Cup that they said would resolve most of these issues, and then they setup fixtures in the USA during the ail season instead.

There role has changed and for provinces themselves it had to. Celtic Cup and USA games very different to B&I Cup considering theyre on at very start/beginning of season. And A games are far better for provinces than club games even with the very good benefits of some club games

young munsters man

think myself players be better off playing AIL, crucial games of a high intensity possibly a higher intensity than the USA games. Timing is horrible -maybe look at doing it earlier in season,or maybe august maybe season end. Having players from AIL background has done munster good in the past

as i said be interested in hearing from lads whose clubs will be affected

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Bit late to the party....
Yes its during the last 3 rounds of games but there could be plenty of contracted players involved in these games that wouldnt have played enough club games to be eligible to play later rounds of AIL.


There role has changed and for provinces themselves it had to. Celtic Cup and USA games very different to B&I Cup considering theyre on at very start/beginning of season. And A games are far better for provinces than club games even with the very good benefits of some club games

There will be loads of academy players involved

Do you really think the New England Jacks are playing at a higher standard than AIL? Seriously?

It is a very big push to say that Celtic Cup is at AIL standard (check out how one sided most of Leinster A's games were with the exception of the games against other Irish teams). To say that a brand new franchise that has yet to play a fixture in the MLR which is generally considered a notch or 2 below AIL is of a higher standard than AIL is complete nonsense and to be honest a huge insult to anyone involved in AIL rugby.

The Lost Sheep

young munsters man wrote: »

think myself players be better off playing AIL, crucial games of a high intensity possibly a higher intensity than the USA games. Timing is horrible -maybe look at doing it earlier in season,or maybe august maybe season end. Having players from AIL background has done munster good in the past

as i said be interested in hearing from lads whose clubs will be affected

Of course you think that but cant really say that the AIL games will be a higher intensity. Possibly should have looked at going earlier but we dont know if they did or not. Maybe the american side couldnt play earlier/later.
Munster and other provinces still will look at players from AIL. This doesnt change that.

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

There will be loads of academy players involved

Do you really think the New England Jacks are playing at a higher standard than AIL? Seriously?

It is a very big push to say that Celtic Cup is at AIL standard (check out how one sided most of Leinster A's games were with the exception of the games against other Irish teams). To say that a brand new franchise that has yet to play a fixture in the MLR which is generally considered a notch or 2 below AIL is of a higher standard than AIL is complete nonsense and to be honest a huge insult to anyone involved in AIL rugby.

There will and i never said anything about higher standard i said the games can be better for provinces with them working on things that simply cant be done in club games.
So stop implying i said something i never did.

Stainalert

I should add that the MLR league is actively targeting Irish club players which will be yet another drain on players from the league (after academies, sevens have had their pick) so for the IRFU to be cosying up to a potential predator is reprehensible.

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

I should add that the MLR league is actively targeting Irish club players which will be yet another drain on players from the league (after academies, sevens have had their pick) so for the IRFU to be cosying up to a potential predator is reprehensible.

Reprehensible?
Thats bit OTT. Nothing wrong with it especially for guys to go try play pro rugby who mightnt get chance otherwise.

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

There will and i never said anything about higher standard i said the games can be better for provinces with them working on things that simply cant be done in club games.
So stop implying i said something i never did.

Well you seem to think this US freebie is a good idea and that the provinces will benefit from it

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Reprehensible?
Thats bit OTT. Nothing wrong with it especially for guys to go try play pro rugby who mightnt get chance otherwise.

The IRFU should support Irish clubs before they support a US franchise. At a professional level if you play outside of Ireland you do not get considered for national teams. The union do this because they want to keep Irish professional teams strong. But it's okay for the US teams to come in and plunder Irish club sides and weaken the AIL. In fact it's more than okay lets bring a bunch of our developing players over to the US to play a few games that clash with the most important games in the AIL season and put them in the shop window for the US teams to recruit.

FellasFellas

Its actually shocking, the Club Scene chatted about it tonight. The AIL is the 'premier' competition in this country and time and time again it is looked down upon by the IRFU. There is plenty of time in August 2019 as a preseason opener or in June as an ending of season - this is horrendous timing. The academy lads involved + the non contracted players who will be selected will be off on essentially a holiday in the States, while the clubs again suffer. Reminds me of the Young Munster - Clontarf game on the same weekend as the B&I Cup, just so so bad from the committees who claim to be building the amateur game.

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

The IRFU should support Irish clubs before they support a US franchise. At a professional level if you play outside of Ireland you do not get considered for national teams. The union do this because they want to keep Irish professional teams strong. But it's okay for the US teams to come in and plunder Irish club sides and weaken the AIL. In fact it's more than okay lets bring a bunch of our developing players over to the US to play a few games that clash with the most important games in the AIL season and put them in the shop window for the US teams to recruit.

Those friendlies arent about supporting a US side. Its about what the games can do for provinces and individual players within the games.
These games dont mean irish club sides will be plundered. The american sides will get coverage of irish club players/games if they want to anyway

FellasFellas

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Those friendlies arent about supporting a US side. Its about what the games can do for provinces and individual players within the games.
These games dont mean irish club sides will be plundered. The american sides will get coverage of irish club players/games if they want to anyway

This game has zero benefit to the provinces, and the fact that you think they do, is ludicrous.

young munsters man

sheep an AIL game where top 4 or relegation is at stake, with likely a passionate vocal crowd is always going to be of a higher intensity than a friendly,

just shows the low regard the IRFU have for the league,

irishbucsfan

The whole thing is clearly a money grab.

Big reminder to clubs where they sit on the totem pole.

sellit90000

IRFU have told provinces that Under-20 players game time will be managed this season in order to ensure a healthier squad for the 6 nations and JWC.

Clubs will be mostly affected by this.

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Those friendlies arent about supporting a US side. Its about what the games can do for provinces and individual players within the games.
These games dont mean irish club sides will be plundered. The american sides will get coverage of irish club players/games if they want to anyway

The IRFU have prioritised these games over the AIL.

D14Rugby

Wasting your energy lads

ArmchairQB

young munsters man wrote: »

sheep an AIL game where top 4 or relegation is at stake, with likely a passionate vocal crowd is always going to be of a higher intensity than a friendly,

just shows the low regard the IRFU have for the league,

The American franchise is made up of failed academy players and lads who never made it to the top as an AIl player or equivalent leagues with a few college athletes new to rugby thrown in so the quality of the oppisition along with the Welsh sides in the Celtic Cup is very questionable. The provinces along with IRFU dont rate the AIl yet a fair few AIL 1a teams would give any of the Celtic Cup Welsh teams or American teams a good game and expect to win them. They tour the world looking for solutions but wont negotiate with the easist solution on their doorstep. if you told that to people outside of the system they would think you were making it up if all the facts were presented correctly.

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

The IRFU have prioritised these games over the AIL.

Timing is ****e but AIL sides will not necessarily be plundered.

D14Rugby wrote: »

Wasting your energy lads

Im only deliberately putting up a counter argument because of the boring narrative here that IRFU are only interested in pro game and dont care any bit about club game

Limerick 37.5

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Timing is ****e but AIL sides will not necessarily be plundered.

Im only deliberately putting up a counter argument because of the boring narrative here that IRFU are only interested in pro game and dont care any bit about club game

It seems to be the norm here to post the easy negative comment regarding the IRFU not interested in the AIL. I would argue that the IRFU are very interested in the AIL but unfortunately the clubs need to wake up and evolve and realise the AIL in its current structure does not provide the meaningful rugby required for players on the fringes of professional rugby. The IRFU came with a proposal and the clubs shot it down because each one as their own vested interests and not the interest of rugby as a whole. The reality is that the IRFU do not have the finances in the medium term to bankroll tournaments for A players in the USA but are willing to take the short term financial pain in order for the Clubs to see the light.

The Lost Sheep

Queens beat UCD in next round of Dudley Cup 29-24 this evening

ArmchairQB

Limerick 37.5 wrote: »

It seems to be the norm here to post the easy negative comment regarding the IRFU not interested in the AIL. I would argue that the IRFU are very interested in the AIL but unfortunately the clubs need to wake up and evolve and realise the AIL in its current structure does not provide the meaningful rugby required for players on the fringes of professional rugby. The IRFU came with a proposal and the clubs shot it down because each one as their own vested interests and not the interest of rugby as a whole. The reality is that the IRFU do not have the finances in the medium term to bankroll tournaments for A players in the USA but are willing to take the short term financial pain in order for the Clubs to see the light.

Clubs well aware that AIL needs modernising but when terms are dictated to you rathet than discussed with you then there is a problem. Clubs want discusion and want to be involved in the discussions to allow and implement change. The union up to now say this is the proposal take it or leave it. Any decision effecting the senior clubs should involve open and frank conversations not bring in one club at a time and tell them what to do and this is the way it will be. I beleive you are beleiving what is been put out there by the spin doctors in that the clubs are blocking progress? Clubs want progress but want tio be part of and involved in the discussions required to facilatate progress.

USA trips are cost neutral for all provinces USA paying for them so again thinking the Union will take a financial hit for this is again another bit of fake news as they say

Limerick 37.5

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Clubs well aware that AIL needs modernising but when terms are dictated to you rathet than discussed with you then there is a problem. Clubs want discusion and want to be involved in the discussions to allow and implement change. The union up to now say this is the proposal take it or leave it. Any decision effecting the senior clubs should involve open and frank conversations not bring in one club at a time and tell them what to do and this is the way it will be. I beleive you are beleiving what is been put out there by the spin doctors in that the clubs are blocking progress? Clubs want progress but want tio be part of and involved in the discussions required to facilatate progress.

USA trips are cost neutral for all provinces USA paying for them so again thinking the Union will take a financial hit for this is again another bit of fake news as they say

The Clubs will not make a decision that is the point exactly, they are incapable of making a decision, as each club has its own agenda. The challenges facing clubs differ from province to province and from club to club. The IRFU require meaningful rugby for players, they put a plan out there, it was rejected by the Clubs. Did the Clubs come back with an alternative, not to my knowledge. So the Clubs say No, we want dialogue but have not put forward a plan.
As for the USA trip, point here is that it is not sustainable, so the IRFU require a solution and that comes back to AIL rugby, the clubs need to provide a solution to the IRFU otherwise the IRFU will impose theirs. Call it fake news if you wish, I would refer to it as reality

The Lost Sheep

Looks like a lot of the Leinster senior cup games scheduled for recently were conceded.
Terenure gave walkover to Belvedere, Navan conceded to Lansdowne and Wanderers gave game to Wesley.

ArmchairQB

Limerick 37.5 wrote: »

The Clubs will not make a decision that is the point exactly, they are incapable of making a decision, as each club has its own agenda. The challenges facing clubs differ from province to province and from club to club. The IRFU require meaningful rugby for players, they put a plan out there, it was rejected by the Clubs. Did the Clubs come back with an alternative, not to my knowledge. So the Clubs say No, we want dialogue but have not put forward a plan.
As for the USA trip, point here is that it is not sustainable, so the IRFU require a solution and that comes back to AIL rugby, the clubs need to provide a solution to the IRFU otherwise the IRFU will impose theirs. Call it fake news if you wish, I would refer to it as reality

Reality is you said IRFU would take a financial hit, they will not! so not true. Also clubs have been in negotation whith Union thru different divisonal reps as they are aware there are diiferent agendas for different clubs throughout the country when Union announced American deal which is a real slap in the face to clubs. Provinces have made it clear that they want more A games for their players like B&I cup and want an expanded Celtic Cup. IRFU's wanted to parachute in 8 professionals into AIL without the need to train with or be part of the 1a and 1b clubs which would really only benefit 2 provinces and pi** off non professional players and benefit no club when Celtic Cup or hybrid version of same is expanded. It was at best a temporary measure of no benefit to clubs end possibly detremental to what the club game is all about The union and provinces have their own agendas which is fine but using the clubs and throwing them to one side when they don't need them is no good for clubs. Scottish Rugby for example have set up a semi pro league and are financailly supporting it and getting free anaylitical soft ware for clubs. The IRFU said they would not put money into clubs here but wanted 8 clubs to do it for them but if you signed up they would want a gurantee that when players became available they would be automatically picked in the position the union or province wanted. Basically they were trying to take control of clubs without any financial assistance and no plan for what would happen when provincal A games or other solutions such as American games were found. Solution is complex and needs both parties to agree not one dictating to the other. People often said that if the clubs diidn't like it they should fix it as they are the union but when they tried it becme very clear who runs the union and people still give out because one is a large professional outfit with PR professionals the other is a group of volunteers doing their best for their clubs.

D14Rugby

Limerick 37.5 wrote: »

It seems to be the norm here to post the easy negative comment regarding the IRFU not interested in the AIL. I would argue that the IRFU are very interested in the AIL but unfortunately the clubs need to wake up and evolve and realise the AIL in its current structure does not provide the meaningful rugby required for players on the fringes of professional rugby. The IRFU came with a proposal and the clubs shot it down because each one as their own vested interests and not the interest of rugby as a whole. The reality is that the IRFU do not have the finances in the medium term to bankroll tournaments for A players in the USA but are willing to take the short term financial pain in order for the Clubs to see the light.

The IRFU proposal involved relegating and promoting teams to set up the league based on their province to get a 2,2,2,2 split and ring fencing that for a while. What leinster or munster club is going to accept that? You're asking them to accept a proposal that odds are would lead to them being dropped out of the division they worked their arses off to get to and locked out because they're the 3rd best team in their province, to highlight this in theory you either a) top the regular table but lose the semi and be relegated or b) come 3rd and win the league and be relegated if everything aligned funny depending on how they picked the best 2, that's ridiculous.

You then have the whole being given provincial players thing, you'd end up with a mix of teams being relegated and to rub salt into the wounds being gutted as their contracted players are moved to a top division team and not unrealistic possibility where you could end up in 4/5 years right where we are now with no Ulster or Connacht teams in the top division so their contracted players would either be playing lower down or not at all and we'd have history repeat itself.

The whole proposal was a complete **** show and wasn't a good option for clubs and the clubs aren't really in any sort of position to be taking anymore hits as is.

The Lost Sheep

A major issue is the IRFU are looking at things treating every senior club in the country as the same when you cant. You cant compare division 1A clubs to division 2C clubs and you cant compare Limerick to Dublin clubs and you cant compare division 1A Dublin clubs to Division 2C Dublin clubs.

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Clubs well aware that AIL needs modernising but when terms are dictated to you rathet than discussed with you then there is a problem. Clubs want discusion and want to be involved in the discussions to allow and implement change. The union up to now say this is the proposal take it or leave it. Any decision effecting the senior clubs should involve open and frank conversations not bring in one club at a time and tell them what to do and this is the way it will be. I beleive you are beleiving what is been put out there by the spin doctors in that the clubs are blocking progress? Clubs want progress but want tio be part of and involved in the discussions required to facilatate progress.

USA trips are cost neutral for all provinces USA paying for them so again thinking the Union will take a financial hit for this is again another bit of fake news as they say

There is an element of that but there's plenty of clubs who only want to see their own interests protected and feck everything else and that can be said for division 1A as well as divisions 2B/C clubs.

D14Rugby wrote: »

The IRFU proposal involved relegating and promoting teams to set up the league based on their province to get a 2,2,2,2 split and ring fencing that for a while. What leinster or munster club is going to accept that? You're asking them to accept a proposal that odds are would lead to them being dropped out of the division they worked their arses off to get to and locked out because they're the 3rd best team in their province, to highlight this in theory you either a) top the regular table but lose the semi and be relegated or b) come 3rd and win the league and be relegated if everything aligned funny depending on how they picked the best 2, that's ridiculous.

You then have the whole being given provincial players thing, you'd end up with a mix of teams being relegated and to rub salt into the wounds being gutted as their contracted players are moved to a top division team and not unrealistic possibility where you could end up in 4/5 years right where we are now with no Ulster or Connacht teams in the top division so their contracted players would either be playing lower down or not at all and we'd have history repeat itself.

The whole proposal was a complete **** show and wasn't a good option for clubs and the clubs aren't really in any sort of position to be taking anymore hits as is.

The idea was right but limiting it to 8 probably wasnt the right idea. It should have been adapted more to the size of each province and ability of the clubs within the provinces. Leinster/Munster and possibly Ulster could have more than 2 semi pro sides while Connacht would only be able to have 2. Allowing a ring fencing of that would have been far better. Though that would have meant change to 10 team league structure at the top
Yes there would be issues with what if Ulster/Connacht teams get relegated where do players go but then again when Connacht dropped clubs to division 2 they had some players in academy move to play club rugby in Dublin/Limerick at different stages or players stayed with those clubs if theyd came from outside the province.

Tarf1234

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Looks like a lot of the Leinster senior cup games scheduled for recently were conceded.
Terenure gave walkover to Belvedere, Navan conceded to Lansdowne and Wanderers gave game to Wesley.

A number of the clubs wanted to double up games with AIL and weren't allowed. Busy season as is no surprise they didn't want additional games.

The Lost Sheep

Tarf1234 wrote: »

A number of the clubs wanted to double up games with AIL and weren't allowed. Busy season as is no surprise they didn't want additional games.

Shame and very busy season as you say. Not sure how you change that. Doubling up would have made sense. Poor form to not allow doubling up of gams

stellenbosch

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Shame and very busy season as you say. Not sure how you change that. Doubling up would have made sense. Poor form to not allow doubling up of gams

Tarf Trinity exactly the same-thats all four qtr finals that were ditched-the Leinster Branch really need to take a good hard look at them selves..now apparently they want the semi finals - who ever is in them!-to play ob 22nd Dec-after 4 consecutive rounds of AIL-beam me up!

Tarf1234

I understand the desire to have a competitive competition in Leinster from the branch point of view but it just isn't going to happen. At best clubs will field weakened teams.

The Lost Sheep

stellenbosch wrote: »

Tarf Trinity exactly the same-thats all four qtr finals that were ditched-the Leinster Branch really need to take a good hard look at them selves..now apparently they want the semi finals - who ever is in them!-to play ob 22nd Dec-after 4 consecutive rounds of AIL-beam me up!

But Branch are....
clubs need to look at things as well. Semis on 22nd is madness and

Tarf1234 wrote: »

I understand the desire to have a competitive competition in Leinster from the branch point of view but it just isn't going to happen. At best clubs will field weakened teams.

All depends on timing in season. Problem with 18 round leagues. Was different when division 2 was 15 games so those clubs could play earlier rounds and then add division 1 clubs earlier. If you put incentives on finishing places in early season league cup/shield as entry to cup then maybe it might help.

Tarf1234

I can't see any time during the season the way it is structured now that players/coaches would be interested in having it.

ArmchairQB

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

But Branch are....
clubs need to look at things as well. Semis on 22nd is madness and
All depends on timing in season. Problem with 18 round leagues. Was different when division 2 was 15 games so those clubs could play earlier rounds and then add division 1 clubs earlier. If you put incentives on finishing places in early season league cup/shield as entry to cup then maybe it might help.

Yeah plus 3/5 Leinster League Games, QF, Semi & Final of Senior Cup if lucky enough to get that far plus succesful club onto Bateman with Semi & Possible final and if get to final of Ail an additional 2 games plus Irish universites, club & 7s making provincial competitions increasingly pointless for senior clubs especially when the top clubs only play each other in all those competitions anyway so radical solutions required

The Lost Sheep

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Yeah plus 3/5 Leinster League Games, QF, Semi & Final of Senior Cup if lucky enough to get that far plus succesful club onto Bateman with Semi & Possible final and if get to final of Ail an additional 2 games plus Irish universites, club & 7s making provincial competitions increasingly pointless for senior clubs especially when the top clubs only play each other in all those competitions anyway so radical solutions required

Very hard to see radical solutions happening coming from either side as well.

Anyway Bateman Cup draw made. Armagh representing Ulster though Cup not finished.

BATEMAN CUP SEMI-FINALS: Saturday, January 12
CITY OF ARMAGH v BUCCANEERS or CORINTHIANS, Palace Grounds, 2.30pm
GARRYOWEN v LANSDOWNE, Dooradoyle, 2.30pm

The Lost Sheep

This weekends games
1A
Friday
Lansdowne v Terenure College
Garryowen v Young Munster
Saturday
Dublin University v Shannon
UCC v Clontarf
UCD v Cork Con
1B
Ballynahinch v Banbridge
Armagh V Old Belvedere
Malone v Naas
Old Wesley v Ballymena
St Marys v Buccaneers

Stainalert

Friday
Lansdowne v Terenure College - Expecting a big back to the wall performance from Terenure

Garryowen v Young Munster - Should be a great game, I think Garryowen might edge it

Saturday
Dublin University v Shannon - 2 young teams bound to be loads of running rugby and for the neutral would be a great game to get to. Going with Trinity.

UCC v Clontarf - Tarf will have too much artillery up front for UCC in my opinion.

UCD v Cork Con - UCD need to be at full strength to challenge Con and sadly I don't think they will be anywhere near it this week

1B
Ballynahinch v Banbridge - Great local derby - fancy Banbridge to sneak the away win
Armagh V Old Belvedere - difficult away trip - Armagh
Malone v Naas - Naas to keep winning
Old Wesley v Ballymena - Wesley should win well
St Marys v Buccaneers - Not sure on this - form suggests Marys but I am going to pick Buccaneers

The Lost Sheep

Far too lazy to drive to Limerick tonight....
Lansdowne won 41-12 and Garryowen beat Munsters

The Lost Sheep

http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/42995.php#.W_mTa-j7TIU

The Lost Sheep

1A
Saturday
Clontarf v Cork Con
Shannon v Lansdowne
Terenure v Garryowen
Young Munster v UCD
UCC v Dublin University
1B
Saturday
Old Wesley v Ballynahinch
Ballymena v Old Belvedere
Banbridge v Malone
Buccaneers v Armagh
Naas v St Marys
2A
Friday
Cashel v UL Bohs
Old Crescent v Nenagh
Saturday
Dolphin v Blackrock
Highfield v Galwegians
Navan v Queens University
2B
Saturday
Corinthians v MU Barnhall
Greystones v Sundays Well
Rainey Old Boys v Belfast Harlequins
Skerries v Sligo
Wanderers v Dungannon
2C
Saturday
Ballina v Midleton
Bruff v Omagh
City Of Derry v Thomond
Seapoint v Bangor
Tullamore v Malahide

D14Rugby

Saw St Mary's are just building a pedestrian entrance to their grounds and I realised it was their first one, got me thinking, are there and ground regulations for the AIL, other than pitch size and enclosure?

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

Saw St Mary's are just building a pedestrian entrance to their grounds and I realised it was their first one, got me thinking, are there and ground regulations for the AIL, other than pitch size and enclosure?

There is i think. The AIL regulations are on irishrugby.ie probably listed in that?