Ulster Bank League 2018-2019 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

Squidgy Black

D14Rugby wrote: »

Saw St Mary's are just building a pedestrian entrance to their grounds and I realised it was their first one, got me thinking, are there and ground regulations for the AIL, other than pitch size and enclosure?

I'd say it's more health and safety code rather than league mandated.

I'm not familiar with any other regulations outside of pitch size, would be interesting to know if there's anything in terms of capacity for the first division etc.

D14Rugby

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I'd say it's more health and safety code rather than league mandated.

I'm not familiar with any other regulations outside of pitch size, would be interesting to know if there's anything in terms of capacity for the first division etc.

Just had a quick look on the IRFU's site and can't see anything, some booklets for suggestions for things a club might need alright but no ground regulations bar technical area stuff.

Just to be completely clear my original point was in no way a dig at mary's, I think they probably have one of the better set ups around, my brain just went on a bit of a tangent when I was thinking about ground improvements and the variation you get in quality of grounds in the league and how some teams would be in trouble if you did introduce the sort of ground regulations they have in football, number of seats, car spaces, wheelchair spots, etc

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

Just had a quick look on the IRFU's site and can't see anything, some booklets for suggestions for things a club might need alright but no ground regulations bar technical area stuff.

Just to be completely clear my original point was in no way a dig at mary's, I think they probably have one of the better set ups around, my brain just went on a bit of a tangent when I was thinking about ground improvements and the variation you get in quality of grounds in the league and how some teams would be in trouble if you did introduce the sort of ground regulations they have in football, number of seats, car spaces, wheelchair spots, etc

Marys do probably have one of best set ups around. Cork Con, Garryowen, Corinthians would be up there as well.
I think there is something available to clubs as in a club facilities/event guide but not easily accessible on the website.

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Marys do probably have one of best set ups around. Cork Con, Garryowen, Corinthians would be up there as well.
I think there is something available to clubs as in a club facilities/event guide but not easily accessible on the website.

There are guides online but they're fairly standard things like "recommended to have showers and changing rooms and a social room" no actual regulations

The Lost Sheep

Just 2 games tonight in 2A Crescent Nenagh and Cashel Bohs
Rest 2.30pm tomorrow.

Stainalert

1A
Saturday
Clontarf v Cork Con - 1 v 2 Should be a cracker of a match and so little between the teams - Fancy Con to snatch it

Shannon v Lansdowne 5 years since we have played Shannon in the AIL. Been very impressed with Shannon so far. Hayes clearly doing an excellent job

Terenure v Garryowen Garryowen settled the ship last week with a great win last week against Munsters. Hard to see Terenure beating them given recent form

Young Munster v UCD Munsters team looks strong this week but I still think it will be very close. UCD seem to a bit erratic but may surprise everyone with an away win

UCC v Dublin University UCC seem to be playing well but not closing the deal whilst Trinity have been knocking the lights out. Think that tend will continue.
1B

Old Wesley v Ballynahinch - Old Wesley went well last week and think that will be the case again
Ballymena v Old Belvedere - Time for Belvo to win up north
Banbridge v Malone - Banbridge to make home advantage pay
Buccaneers v Armagh - Armagh to win
Naas v St Marys - Naas by a sliver

The Lost Sheep

tonights results
Cashel 24 UL Bohs 20
Old Crescent 29 Nenagh 15

The Lost Sheep

All results
1A
Clontarf 13 Cork Con 16
Shannon 15 Lansdowne 32
Terenure 16 Garryowen 17
Young Munster 34 UCD 34
UCC 28 Dublin University 14
1B
Old Wesley 16 Ballynahinch 27
Ballymena 28 Old Belvedere 14
Banbridge 21 Malone 11
Buccaneers 24 Armagh 17
Naas 8 St Marys 23
2A
Dolphin 20 Blackrock 16
Highfield 40 Galwegians 19
Navan 24 Queens University 17
2B
Corinthians 7 MU Barnhall 18
Greystones 53 Sundays Well 17
Rainey Old Boys 10 Belfast Harlequins 7
Skerries 19 Sligo 27
Wanderers 28 Dungannon 3
2C
Ballina 29 Midleton 20
Bruff 23 Omagh 17
City Of Derry 19 Thomond 13
Seapoint 10 Bangor 12
Tullamore 16 Malahide 12

realhorrorshow

Very possible that there will be 4 Connacht teams in 2B next season.

The Lost Sheep

realhorrorshow wrote: »

Very possible that there will be 4 Connacht teams in 2B next season.

Possible but i dont think it'll happen and hopefully not.

2 rounds for everyone before christmas break and we'll be at half way point in the league.

The Lost Sheep

Limerick Charity Cup and Munster Senior Cup finals have been scheduled for over christmas
Garryowen and Young Munster are in the final of Charity Cup which will be in the Markets Field on Friday December 28 at 6pm and the Munster Senior Cup final between Cork Con and Garryowen will be in Thomond Park on Saturday January 5 at 2pm.

Stainalert

1A
Friday
Garryowen v Shannon

Saturday
UCD v Terenure
Cork Con v Young Munster
Lansdowne v UCC
Clontarf v Trinity

1B
Ballymena v Ballynahinch
City of Armagh v Naas
Malone v Old Wesley
Old Belvedere v Buccaneers
St Marys v Banbridge

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

1A
Friday
Garryowen v Shannon

Saturday
Clontarf v Dublin University
Cork Con v Young Munster
Lansdowne v UCC
Clontarf v Trinity

1B
Ballymena v Ballynahinch
City of Armagh v Naas
Malone v Old Wesley
Old Belvedere v Buccaneers
St Marys v Banbridge

Sure why not list division 2 games as well?
Thoughts on games this weekend?

Faugheen

The top 3 should win in 1A. They're so far ahead of the rest.

1B is unpredictable as f*ck. Really tight this season.

Next weekend will be interesting in 2B if Greystones and Barnhall can win tomorrow. They play each other next week.

Stainalert

Garryowen Shannon game should be a good game - I think Shannon's set piece will need to improve for them to win so I am going with Garryowen

UCD should be stronger this week so Terenure will have to raise their game again. I think Terenure might sneak this one

I think Con will have too much for Munsters up front and that will be the decider

Again Tarf should have the edge up front against Trinity - There will be a lot of familiar faces on the Tarf team with so many of Trinity having joined Tarf this season. I think this probably is an advantage to Tarf as they'll have a good insight into how Trinity play.

UCC are a big unknown for Lansdowne and what has impressed me with UCC is their attack. They look very dangerous.

Think Ballynahinch will have too much for Ballymena despite Ballymena getting the win last week

Armagh and Naas look like 2 pretty well matched teams for me so siding with home advantage here

Old Wesley will find it difficult away to a fully loaded Malone team and a losing bonus point might be as much as they can hope for.

Must win game for Belvo, Buccaneers should have a bit more togetherness about them at this stage but I fancy Belvo to nail this one

Marys Banbridge is another tough call and Marys showing good form going into this but am going to go with Banbridge here.

madds

Faugheen wrote: »

Next weekend will be interesting in 2B if Greystones and Barnhall can win tomorrow. They play each other next week.

Barnhall's match against Wanderers tomorrow has been cancelled as Wanderers President passed away last night. RIP.

Faugheen

madds wrote: »

Barnhall's match against Wanderers tomorrow has been cancelled as Wanderers President passed away last night. RIP.

That's awful news for Wanderers. RIP

The Lost Sheep

Tonights results
1A
Garryowen 30 Shannon 29

The Lost Sheep

1A
Garryowen 30 Shannon 29
Clontarf 12 Trinity 16
Cork Con 26 Young Munster 3
Lansdowne 31 UCC 15
UCD 31 Terenure 3
1B
Ballymena 18 Ballynahinch 10
Armagh 16 Naas 11
Malone 12 Old Wesley 16
Old Belvedere 11 Buccaneers 10
St Mary's College 28 Banbridge 7
2A
Blackrock 24 Old Crescent 10
Navan 28 Galwegians 7
Nenagh Ormond 17 Highfield 36
Queens University 13 Cashel 19
UL Bohs 29 Dolphin 14
2B
Belfast Harlequins 10 Skerries 10
Dungannon 17 Greystones 20
Corinthians 17 Sligo 19
Sundays Well 6 Rainey Old Boys 41
2C
Omagh 34 Seapoint 5
Ballina 14 Bangor 12
Malahide 19 Bruff 14
Midleton 36 City Of Derry 7
Thomond 17 Tullamore 27

realhorrorshow

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Possible but i dont think it'll happen and hopefully not.

2 rounds for everyone before christmas break and we'll be at half way point in the league.

Galwegians bottom of 2A, Corinthians and Sligo literally mid table in 2B, and Ballina top of 2C. What do you think will change?

The Lost Sheep

realhorrorshow wrote: »

Galwegians bottom of 2A, Corinthians and Sligo literally mid table in 2B, and Ballina top of 2C. What do you think will change?

Just dont think Ballina necessarily will win out of 2C and Corinthians/Sligo could get out of 2B as well.
Would rather all 4 were not in one division.

Chico Flores

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Just dont think Ballina necessarily will win out of 2C and Corinthians/Sligo could get out of 2B as well.
Would rather all 4 were not in one division.

From looking at 2B I cannot see how Sligo/Corinthians could possibly get out ahead of Greystones or Barnhall?

Corinthians are 17 points Barnhall in 2nd, who have a game in hand and Sligo are the same?

Galwegians are certainly going to come down and Ballina are going so well. Will be 3 at least I am sure.

The Lost Sheep

Chico Flores wrote: »

From looking at 2B I cannot see how Sligo/Corinthians could possibly get out ahead of Greystones or Barnhall?

Corinthians are 17 points Barnhall in 2nd, who have a game in hand and Sligo are the same?

Galwegians are certainly going to come down and Ballina are going so well. Will be 3 at least I am sure.

You only need to make top 4 and then its playoffs and think they could get it.
Maybe 3 but dont think and hope it will be 4

Stainalert

1A

Trinity v Lansdowne
Shannon v UCD
Terenure v Cork Con
UCC v Garryowen
Young Munster v Clontarf

1B

Ballynahinch V Malone
Banbridge v City of Armagh
Buccaneers v Ballymena
Naas v Old Belvedere
Old Wesley v St Marys

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert could you not just post the division 2 fixtures as well....

Well here they are
2A
Tonight
Old Crescent v UL Bohs
Tomorrow
Cashel v Navan
Dolphin v Queens
Galwegians v Nenagh
Highfield v Blackrock
2B
Sligo v Belfast Harlequins
Greystones v MU Barnhall
Rainey Old Boys v Dungannon
Skerries v Sundays Well
Wanderers v Corinthians
2C
Tonight
Bruff v Thomond
Seapoint v Malahide
Tomorrow
Bangor v Omagh
City Of Derry v Ballina
Tullamore v Midleton

Stainalert

http://irishrugby.ie/news/43121.php#.XBPh6Nv7TGg

The Lost Sheep

Results
2A
Old Crescent 10 Bohs 13
2C
Bruff 27 Thomond 7
Seapoint 14 Malahide 32

madds

Any games called off yet today...it's brutal out there

realhorrorshow

Wegians off the mark for the season, beating Nenagh 20-12.

ArmchairQB

Went to Colege Park yesterday before Aviva to wach Trinity v Lansdowne. Not a great match in fairness but Trinity never looked like scoring a try Lansdowne with some great defence all day and managed 3 tries in foul weather. Trinity as usual showed great ambition but couldn’t repeat last weeks heroics v Tarf. Have to say ref didn’t help game at all very pedantic and looked very inexperienced at this level. I would say Lansdowne would not be to happy with his scrum calls as they were clearly dominant but were strangely penalised for what obviously looked like illegal s rummaging from Trinity props plus ref overruled flag from linesman for a blatant penalty with Trinity player taking out a chasing Lansdowne player. Sylvester and co really didn’t get a chance to impress, Jack Dunne was very good and outplayed Oisin Dowling, Ronan Kelleher looked good for Lansdowne bullet of a throw in Lineout for their last try as did Harry Byrne when he came on, kicked an impressive conversion out wide in terrible conditions. Conditions not conducive to an open game that usually takes place between these two but Trinity would still be behind Lansdowne they seem to have narrowed the gap this season.

Tomtomfoolery

good review, cheers. Trinity looked like they might struggle in 1 A this season but they have achieved a few wins and top 4 so far is a real achievement. There are some really good 1st and 2nd years there so the runes for the future are good.

Stainalert

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Went to Colege Park yesterday before Aviva to wach Trinity v Lansdowne. Not a great match in fairness but Trinity never looked like scoring a try Lansdowne with some great defence all day and managed 3 tries in foul weather. Trinity as usual showed great ambition but couldn’t repeat last weeks heroics v Tarf. Have to say ref didn’t help game at all very pedantic and looked very inexperienced at this level. I would say Lansdowne would not be to happy with his scrum calls as they were clearly dominant but were strangely penalised for what obviously looked like illegal s rummaging from Trinity props plus ref overruled flag from linesman for a blatant penalty with Trinity player taking out a chasing Lansdowne player. Sylvester and co really didn’t get a chance to impress, Jack Dunne was very good and outplayed Oisin Dowling, Ronan Kelleher looked good for Lansdowne bullet of a throw in Lineout for their last try as did Harry Byrne when he came on, kicked an impressive conversion out wide in terrible conditions. Conditions not conducive to an open game that usually takes place between these two but Trinity would still be behind Lansdowne they seem to have narrowed the gap this season.

Good win for Lansdowne against a very decent Trinity team. Hopefully we get better conditions for the rematch in a few weeks time.

Stainalert

Division 1B really is incredibly tight at the moment. 10 points seperates top to bottom whilst just 4 points seperates the top 8.

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

Division 1B really is incredibly tight at the moment. 10 points seperates top to bottom whilst just 4 points seperates the top 8.

Great sign. Hopefully it isnt Marys who finish season top and one of the Ulster sides can get to 1A.

D14Rugby

Shannon's will Leonard has signed for RUNY in the MLR

Stainalert

Anyone go to the clubscene live show last night?

Mc Love

Couldnt make it and the live feed on instagram wasnt great, but it looked like a good show. Havent heard from a colleague of mine that was at it yet, so it must have been a good night after

The Lost Sheep

Plenty of provincial club games this weekend
Connacht senior cup final between Buccs and Corinthians is in Athlone tomorrow
Wesley play Greystones in Leinster League Division2A final in Donnybrook tonight
Munster senior cup final between Garryowen and Con is in Thomond tomorrow
Ulster senior cup semi final Armagh and Rainey tomorrow

The Lost Sheep

Buccs won 16-14
Con won 26-23
Wesley won 41-5
Armagh won 31-15

Psteve232

Ballymena beat hinch 22-20 in the other semi final

The Lost Sheep

Left before end of game in Thomond.
poor game between two division 1A sides especially considering theyre 1st and 4th

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Left before end of game in Thomond.
poor game between two division 1A sides especially considering theyre 1st and 4th

Shame both teams looked pretty close to full sides

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

Shame both teams looked pretty close to full sides

was quite disappointed with the standard. expected a lot more. very much two teams keeping things in reserve though im not sure why when league isnt back for two weeks though Garryowen do have Bateman Cup against ye next weekend which may have been in minds of there coaches/players

lbc2019

Tullamore went on a nice little run before Christmas

The Lost Sheep

lbc2019 wrote: »

Tullamore went on a nice little run before Christmas

Nice run in comparison to their early season form but theyre still very much involved in fight to avoid relegation to junior. they got 2 wins from last 3 games but one win for Seapoint/Thomond and theyre right in it for either auto relegation/playoff.

lbc2019

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

lbc2019 wrote: »

Tullamore went on a nice little run before Christmas

Nice run in comparison to their early season form but theyre still very much involved in fight to avoid relegation to junior. they got 2 wins from last 3 games but one win for Seapoint/Thomond and theyre right in it for either auto relegation/playoff.

Yeah, but good to get off the bottom

The Lost Sheep

Bateman Cup Saturday
Armagh v Buccaneers and Garryowen v Lansdowne

Both games kick off 2.30.
Might be going to Garryowen Lansdowne Saturday afternoon

Stainalert

The Garryowen Lansdowne game should be a good game going on the last couple of outings between both teams.

Frustrating that Leinster A play Munster A in a friendly the day before so unlikely Lansdowne or Garryowen will be at full strength.

CMcsporty

Stainalert wrote: »

The Garryowen Lansdowne game should be a good game going on the last couple of outings between both teams.

Frustrating that Leinster A play Munster A in a friendly the day before so unlikely Lansdowne or Garryowen will be at full strength.

How many lads would be missing from each?

The Lost Sheep

CMcsporty wrote: »

How many lads would be missing from each?

impossible to say as depends on what way provinces line up but could be 2/3 maybe more maybe even just 1 player per side