Ulster Bank League 2018-2019 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

The Lost Sheep

Irish Universities squad for training camp in Maynooth this weekend ahead of game v Scottish Students In Queens February 10th

Rory Bell Queens, Cian Bohane UCC, Cillian Burke UCD, James Fennelly Trinity, Aaron Hehir LIT, Colm Hogan Trinity, Mark Keane Queens, Murray Linn UCC, Conor Lowndes Trinity, Finn Murphy Bath, Rory O Connor Garda Training, Rowan Osborne Trinity, Peter Sylvester UCC, James Taylor UCC

Conall Boomer UU, Kelvin Brown LIT, Ty Chan UL, Alexander Clarke Queens, Sam Griffin UCD, Max Kearney Trinity, Greg McGrath Carlow IT, Jonny McKeown Trinity, Stephen McVeigh UCD, Ntinga Mpiko Carlow IT, Ryan Murphy UCC, Bryan O Connor UCC, JJ O Dea DCU, Shane O Hanlon UCC, Dan Sheean Trinity, David Whitten Queens,

Thermoman12

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Irish Universities squad for training camp in Maynooth this weekend ahead of game v Scottish Students In Queens February 10th

Rory Bell Queens, Cian Bohane UCC, Cillian Burke UCD, James Fennelly Trinity, Aaron Hehir LIT, Colm Hogan Trinity, Mark Keane Queens, Murray Linn UCC, Conor Lowndes Trinity, Finn Murphy Bath, Rory O Connor Garda Training, Rowan Osborne Trinity, Peter Sylvester UCC, James Taylor UCC

Conall Boomer UU, Kelvin Brown LIT, Ty Chan UL, Alexander Clarke Queens, Sam Griffin UCD, Max Kearney Trinity, Greg McGrath Carlow IT, Jonny McKeown Trinity, Stephen McVeigh UCD, Ntinga Mpiko Carlow IT, Ryan Murphy UCC, Bryan O Connor UCC, JJ O Dea DCU, Shane O Hanlon UCC, Dan Sheean Trinity, David Whitten Queens,

Any idea of predictions of what the starting team might look like?

The Lost Sheep

Thermoman12 wrote: »

Any idea of predictions of what the starting team might look like?

Not really able to. But imagine below will certainly start....

Cian Bohane, Colm Hogan, Peter Sylvester, James Taylor

Conall Boomer, Kelvin Brown, Max Kearney, Greg McGrath, Ryan Murphy, JJ O Dea

Stainalert

CMcsporty wrote: »

How many lads would be missing from each?

From Irishrugby.ie "The likes of Coombes, former captain Neil Cronin, Sean O'Connor, Conor Oliver and Ronan O'Mahony are on duty with Munster 'A' this afternoon, while Lansdowne have Ronan Kelleher, Harry Byrne, Peter Dooley and new Leinster cap Oisin Dowling all starting for Leinster 'A' at Thomond Park."

Chico Flores

BATEMAN CUP SEMI-FINALS:

CITY OF ARMAGH 29 BUCCANEERS 13, Palace Grounds
Scorers: City of Armagh: Tries: Andrew Willis, Evin Crummie, Jonny Morton, Neil Faloon; Cons: Cormac Fox 3; Pen: Cormac Fox
Buccaneers: Try: Rory O'Connor; Con: Michael Hanley; Pens: Michael Hanley 2
HT: City of Armagh 10 Buccaneers 6

CITY OF ARMAGH: Shea O'Brien; Andrew Willis, Evin Crummie, Jonny Pollock, Ryan Purvis; Cormac Fox, Harry Doyle; Paul Mullen, Andrew Smyth, Phillip Fletcher, Peter Starrett, Josh McKinley, James Hanna, Robbie Whitten (capt), Neil Faloon.

Replacements: Oisin Kiernan, Jonny Morton, Gareth McNiece, James Morton, Gareth Treanor, Chris Cousins, Matthew Reaney.

BUCCANEERS: Callum Boland; Thomas McGann, Shane Layden (capt), Kieran Joyce, Rory O'Connor; Michael Hanley, Frankie Hopkins; Conan O'Donnell, John Sutton, Liam Winnett, Ruairi Byrne, Torin Rensford, Fergus Galvin, Owen Treacy, Evan Galvin.

Replacements: Harry O'Reilly, Rory Grenham, Sean O'Connell, Gerard Fallon, Dean McMahon, Ross Murphy-Sweeney.

GARRYOWEN 14 LANSDOWNE 12, Dooradoyle
Scorers: Garryowen: Try: Liam Cronin; Pens: Ben Healy 3
Lansdowne: Pens: Scott Deasy 4
HT: Garryowen 3 Lansdowne 6

GARRYOWEN: Jamie Heuston; Daniel Hurley, Peadar Collins, David McCarthy, Cian O'Shea; Ben Healy, Rob Guerin; Niall Horan, Liam Cronin, Andrew Keating, Kevin Seymour, Dean Moore (capt), Tim Ferguson, Diarmuid Barron, Sean Rennison.

Replacements: Mike O'Donnell, David Canny, Scott Leahy, Steven Atkinson, Jamie Gavin, Shane Brosnahan, Andrew O'Byrne.

LANSDOWNE: Eamonn Mills (capt); Daniel McEvoy, Mark O'Keeffe, Conor Murphy, Peter Sullivan; Scott Deasy, Tim Murphy; Denis Coulson, James Rael, Ian Prendiville, Willie Earle, Jack O'Sullivan, Tom Murphy, Conor Fenlon, Aaron Conneely.

Replacements: JJ Earle, Martin Mulhall, Greg McGrath, Conall O'Brien, Alan Bennie, Liam O'Sullivan, Barry Goulding.

ALL-IRELAND LEAGUE: DIVISION 2B:

MU Barnhall 55 Wanderers 3, Parsonstown

Great to see someone like Armagh get to the final - have nothing to lose in it

Big win for Barnhall in 2B.

Stainalert

Great win for Armagh

We were a bit undercooked against Garryowen with Garryowen definitely deserved winners. Hopefully the game will stand to us next week (Desperately looking for a silver lining!!).

Chico Flores

Full round of fixtures this weekend

1A

Garryowen v UCC
Clontarf v Young Munster
Cork Con v Terenure
Lansdowne v Trinity
UCD v Shannon

1B

Ballymena v Buccaneers
Armagh v Banbridge
Malone v Ballynahinch
Old Belvedere v Naas
St Marys v Wesley

2A

Bohs v Crescent (Friday)
Nenagh v Galwegians
Blackrock v Highfield
Navan v Cashel
Queens v Dolphin

2B

Belfast Quins v Sligo
Dungannon v Rainey
Corinthians v Wanderers
Barnhall v Greystones
Sundays Well v Skerries

2C

Malahide v Seapoint (Friday)
Thomond v Bruff (Friday)
Ballina v City of Derry
Midleton v Tullamore
Omagh v Bangor

ArmchairQB

Chico Flores wrote: »

Full round of fixtures this weekend

1A

Garryowen v UCC
Clontarf v Young Munster
Cork Con v Terenure
Lansdowne v Trinity
UCD v Shannon

1B

Ballymena v Buccaneers
Armagh v Banbridge
Malone v Ballynahinch
Old Belvedere v Naas
St Marys v Wesley

2A

Bohs v Crescent (Friday)
Nenagh v Galwegians
Blackrock v Highfield
Navan v Cashel
Queens v Dolphin

2B

Belfast Quins v Sligo
Dungannon v Rainey
Corinthians v Wanderers
Barnhall v Greystones
Sundays Well v Skerries

2C

Malahide v Seapoint (Friday)
Thomond v Bruff (Friday)
Ballina v City of Derry
Midleton v Tullamore
Omagh v Bangor

Not mad on the way they reverse fixtures at halfway stage in AIL, I would like to see teams playing the reverse fixture of their opening AIL game rather than a repeatof their last before christmas. Any thoughts?

The Lost Sheep

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Not mad on the way they reverse fixtures at halfway stage in AIL, I would like to see teams playing the reverse fixture of their opening AIL game rather than a repeatof their last before christmas. Any thoughts?

I agree but would prefer a randomized set of fixtures for second half of league. But that might require irfu to do more work/be harder to do.

Chico Flores

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

I agree but would prefer a randomized set of fixtures for second half of league. But that might require irfu to do more work/be harder to do.

Think randomised could end up being unfair on some teams - just by the way it falls - and the home and away mix - at least if it was consistent everyone knows..

I would agree, no reverse, start again.

The Lost Sheep

Chico Flores wrote: »

Think randomised could end up being unfair on some teams - just by the way it falls - and the home and away mix - at least if it was consistent everyone knows..

I would agree, no reverse, start again.

But the current set up isnt right IMO with round 1 being mirror of 18 in each division. and same goes for 2 and 17, 3 and 16 etc,
Yes everyone knows but i dont see how it would necessarily be unfair if through several seasons it evens itself out
Randomised with some criteria that have to be met would be better than whats there now IMO

ArmchairQB

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

But the current set up isnt right IMO with round 1 being mirror of 18 in each division. and same goes for 2 and 17, 3 and 16 etc,
Yes everyone knows but i dont see how it would necessarily be unfair if through several seasons it evens itself out
Randomised with some criteria that have to be met would be better than whats there now IMO

Yeah local derbies around christmas, Friday nights on International home weekends.

Introduce double headers with 20s or J1s where teams are in same province on Saturday post AIl match

A little imagination would work well

Stainalert

1A

Garryowen v UCC - Expect a very tight game but think Garryowen will squeeze through

Clontarf v Young Munster - Tough ask for Munsters, Expect Clontarf to win well

Cork Con v Terenure - Terenure apparently have added to their squad but Con always very difficult to beat at home and I think will prevail

Lansdowne v Trinity - Very close and tough game before Christmas in poor weather. Should be another tight encounter with Lansdowne hoing to bounce back from last weeks loss to Garryowen in the Bateman.

UCD v Shannon - UCD likely to have a lot of their Leinster contingent available to them which will really test Shannon. Will go with another home victory.

1B
So little between all these teams that picking winners is really a lottery but here we go:

Ballymena v Buccaneers - Ballymena seem to have turned the corner and think this will continue

Armagh v Banbridge - Armagh will be buoyed by reaching their 1st Bateman final and I think they will keep winning

Malone v Ballynahinch - Malone will want to avenge their pre christmas loss away to Hinch but I'm going for an away win here for a change

Old Belvedere v Naas - Naas need to find some form (They've lost 4 on the trot) but I expect Old Belvedere to win this one as I think Belvo are better than their league position suggests.

St Marys v Wesley - I think Wesley will follow up on a good win last day against Marys with an away win here.

The Lost Sheep

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Yeah local derbies around christmas, Friday nights on International home weekends.

Introduce double headers with 20s or J1s where teams are in same province on Saturday post AIl match

A little imagination would work well

Wouldnt necessarily have double headers with 20s though on odd occasion it would work but j1s should nearly always be played with senior games.

Stainalert wrote: »

1A

Garryowen v UCC - Expect a very tight game but think Garryowen will squeeze through

Clontarf v Young Munster - Tough ask for Munsters, Expect Clontarf to win well

Cork Con v Terenure - Terenure apparently have added to their squad but Con always very difficult to beat at home and I think will prevail

Lansdowne v Trinity - Very close and tough game before Christmas in poor weather. Should be another tight encounter with Lansdowne hoing to bounce back from last weeks loss to Garryowen in the Bateman.

UCD v Shannon - UCD likely to have a lot of their Leinster contingent available to them which will really test Shannon. Will go with another home victory.

1B
So little between all these teams that picking winners is really a lottery but here we go:

Ballymena v Buccaneers - Ballymena seem to have turned the corner and think this will continue

Armagh v Banbridge - Armagh will be buoyed by reaching their 1st Bateman final and I think they will keep winning

Malone v Ballynahinch - Malone will want to avenge their pre christmas loss away to Hinch but I'm going for an away win here for a change

Old Belvedere v Naas - Naas need to find some form (They've lost 4 on the trot) but I expect Old Belvedere to win this one as I think Belvo are better than their league position suggests.

St Marys v Wesley - I think Wesley will follow up on a good win last day against Marys with an away win here.

Any thoughts on division 2?

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Wouldnt necessarily have double headers with 20s though on odd occasion it would work but j1s should nearly always be played with senior games.

Any thoughts on division 2?

Arguably the double header with the u20s would be more important than j1s. Get the two squads mingling and supporting each other to encourage the 20s players to continue on into full adult rugby. An ideal scenario would probably be a day where it goes 20s,Firsts,J1s at the same venue in that order.
Guy just game opinions on 20 games out of his own volition, no need to do division 2 if he doesn't want to.
Be interesting to see if any teams have gained or lost players over Christmas, especially those in college who may be going on semesters abroad and such. Hear Terenure have Jake Swaine and Harrison Brewer are back for Terenure. Two huge players to get back.

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

Arguably the double header with the u20s would be more important than j1s. Get the two squads mingling and supporting each other to encourage the 20s players to continue on into full adult rugby. An ideal scenario would probably be a day where it goes 20s,Firsts,J1s at the same venue in that order.
Guy just game opinions on 20 games out of his own volition, no need to do division 2 if he doesn't want to.
Be interesting to see if any teams have gained or lost players over Christmas, especially those in college who may be going on semesters abroad and such. Hear Terenure have Jake Swaine and Harrison Brewer are back for Terenure. Two huge players to get back.

Thats fine for some clubs in division 1 but there is still quite a few clubs across divisions 1B(not 1A this season at least) that dont field under 20 teams never mind division 2 clubs
I think J1s would be better as you could give game time to guys who wont have played in AIL game and players can move up. And J1 players would all be training with the AIL squads so far better use of squads.
And i dont see whats wrong with asking his opinion on division2 when he's such a dedicated follower of the league.

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Thats fine for some clubs in division 1 but there is still quite a few clubs across divisions 1B(not 1A this season at least) that dont field under 20 teams never mind division 2 clubs
I think J1s would be better as you could give game time to guys who wont have played in AIL game and players can move up. And J1 players would all be training with the AIL squads so far better use of squads.
And i dont see whats wrong with asking his opinion on division2 when he's such a dedicated follower of the league.

Well if you don't have a team you don't play the match. Thought that would be obvious.
It should really be a requirement to have an U20s team to play AIL to at the very least encourage clubs to have a good youth section and links with schools. Clubs really don't help themselves with not having requirements to play AIL other than be promoted, it just all looks so amateurish which is part of the reason why the IRFU don't really invite them to the table, because a lot of clubs give very little evidence of being able to provide a professional environment for the fringe provincial players to thrive in when no involved with their province. That's a rant for another day though.

It's fine to ask, but for the 10th (minimum) consecutive gameweek with no reply it's not. If you want it done do it, but to keep asking the same person the same thing and expect a different result is a tad annoying.

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

Well if you don't have a team you don't play the match. Thought that would be obvious.
It should really be a requirement to have an U20s team to play AIL to at the very least encourage clubs to have a good youth section and links with schools. Clubs really don't help themselves with not having requirements to play AIL other than be promoted, it just all looks so amateurish which is part of the reason why the IRFU don't really invite them to the table, because a lot of clubs give very little evidence of being able to provide a professional environment for the fringe provincial players to thrive in when no involved with their province. That's a rant for another day though.

It's fine to ask, but for the 10th (minimum) consecutive gameweek with no reply it's not. If you want it done do it, but to keep asking the same person the same thing and expect a different result is a tad annoying.

I think its a fair question to stainalert to ask their opinion on division 2 when its a very simple thing to just list the fixtures. They care a lot about the league and its progress so why cant they just list the division 2 games. Not that hard to do.

And especially for the more rural clubs fielding 20s teams to join with AIL teams isnt feasible and having seconds would be far better for the league as you can rotate players between each game much more and as said already many clubs cant field a 20s team
I think you havent a clue about most clubs when you say they dont provide a good enough environment for fringe provincial players. Which is what exactly?

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

I think its a fair question to stainalert to ask their opinion on division 2 when its a very simple thing to just list the fixtures. They care a lot about the league and its progress so why cant they just list the division 2 games. Not that hard to do.

And especially for the more rural clubs fielding 20s teams to join with AIL teams isnt feasible and having seconds would be far better for the league as you can rotate players between each game much more and as said already many clubs cant field a 20s team
I think you havent a clue about most clubs when you say they dont provide a good enough environment for fringe provincial players. Which is what exactly?

Not going down this rabbit hole again so this'll be my final say.
It is a lot of work and great someone will even do it for 2 divisions (yeah its the A and B of one division but its really 2) to do it for another 15 games to take the form, strengths and weakness of 30 clubs and compare them and decide who you think will win is a lot of work, its why people are paid to do such work.

It is feasible, if you've a youth section which all clubs should a 20's team should be more than manageable especially since the AIL is for the elite teams in the country and as such there should be standards set like in league structures in most other sports. You seem to have chosen, as per usual, to ignore my point that the 20's requirement shouldn't be there as a standalone, it should be there because it would mean clubs would have to have proper structures in place in that they'd need a youth section which in turn would need a minis, and/or links to local schools, these are basic things that clubs are ignoring in favour of pumping money into their first team because there's no incentive to have them functioning well, a 20's team being needed would be that incentive. Teams should have a J1s team as well. To play in the AIL the requirements of having a firsts, J1 and 20s at minimum isn't too much to ask.#

I think you haven't a clue about what I said. I said it gives the perception of not providing a good environment for fringe players, that and stating that they don't are two very different things I think you'll find. If you're Leo Cullen though and your hearing about clubs that don't have an S&C coach, no nutritionist, low numbers at training, pitch is a state, set-piece training is pretty much just players making it up as they go, no food after training and all these things that add up you're bound to be reluctant to let your players go to clubs in a league where stuff like that is common when you could keep them in your ultra professional environment. On the other hand if you're handed a book that says clubs that are in 1A and 1B have this that and the other facilities and coaching wise at least and the provincial setups can have an input in what they deem to be essential like gps tracked training and what not, they're going to feel a lot more safe with letting their players go there more often.

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

Not going down this rabbit hole again so this'll be my final say.
It is a lot of work and great someone will even do it for 2 divisions (yeah its the A and B of one division but its really 2) to do it for another 15 games to take the form, strengths and weakness of 30 clubs and compare them and decide who you think will win is a lot of work, its why people are paid to do such work.

It is feasible, if you've a youth section which all clubs should a 20's team should be more than manageable especially since the AIL is for the elite teams in the country and as such there should be standards set like in league structures in most other sports. You seem to have chosen, as per usual, to ignore my point that the 20's requirement shouldn't be there as a standalone, it should be there because it would mean clubs would have to have proper structures in place in that they'd need a youth section which in turn would need a minis, and/or links to local schools, these are basic things that clubs are ignoring in favour of pumping money into their first team because there's no incentive to have them functioning well, a 20's team being needed would be that incentive. Teams should have a J1s team as well. To play in the AIL the requirements of having a firsts, J1 and 20s at minimum isn't too much to ask.#

I think you haven't a clue about what I said. I said it gives the perception of not providing a good environment for fringe players, that and stating that they don't are two very different things I think you'll find. If you're Leo Cullen though and your hearing about clubs that don't have an S&C coach, no nutritionist, low numbers at training, pitch is a state, set-piece training is pretty much just players making it up as they go, no food after training and all these things that add up you're bound to be reluctant to let your players go to clubs in a league where stuff like that is common when you could keep them in your ultra professional environment. On the other hand if you're handed a book that says clubs that are in 1A and 1B have this that and the other facilities and coaching wise at least and the provincial setups can have an input in what they deem to be essential like gps tracked training and what not, they're going to feel a lot more safe with letting their players go there more often.

drop the attitude. no need for rabbit hole comment...
Look at the league as a whole not simply division 1 and while all 1A clubs field 20s sides it isnt the case in the other divisions for one reason or another and just saying we should do it isnt the answer. Having 2nds, 3rds(where feasible) would be far better than 20s. 2nds will be training with a AIL side far more than a 20s set up and players can be used by both far more on same day than 20s ever will.
And all clubs dont have youths sections for whole variety of reasons. Schools or any other reasons. And thats even more the case for 20s especially with the way 20s competitions are ran in some places.
I didnt ignore anything you said(and if we're going this way you didnt need to add the potshot at me but you did .... as usual :rolleyes: )
Not having a 20s side doesnt give an impression of there not being a good environment for fringe players. Actually it can hamper a club in some circumstances as it potentially takes from your seconds side if you have a focus on 20s. Only in a small few places can clubs field 20s as well as 1 or more adult sides on the same day and thats Dublin, some Limerick and Cork clubs. Very very few beyond the cities.

GavMan

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

drop the attitude. no need for rabbit hole comment...

In fairness, who made you Mod? I don't think its your place to take admonish posters in that way.

If you've an issue, report the post.

The Lost Sheep

GavMan wrote: »

In fairness, who made you Mod? I don't think its your place to take admonish posters in that way.

If you've an issue, report the post.

Hahaha irony of this considering some of previous posts made relating to me...

1A
Garryowen 22 UCC 23, Clontarf 24 Young Munster 20, Cork Con 28 Terenure 5, Lansdowne 66 Trinity 33, UCD 20 Shannon 24

1B
Ballymena 16 Buccaneers 20, Armagh 15 Banbridge 32, Malone 15 Ballynahinch 8, Old Belvedere 18 Naas 20, St Marys 15 Old Wesley 41

2A
Nenagh Ormond 38 Galwegians 17, Blackrock College 19 Highfield 59, Navan 20 Cashel 13, Queen's University 31 Dolphin 5, UL Bohs 10 Old Crescent 31

2B
Belfast Harlequins 12 Sligo 22,
Dungannon 26 Rainey Old Boys 3, Corinthians 41 Wanderers 31, MU Barnhall 17 Greystones 11, Sunday's Well 11 Skerries 17

2C
Ballina 39 City of Derry 10, Midleton 13 Tullamore 10, Omagh 25 Bangor 18, Malahide 26 Seapoint 17, Thomond 22 Bruff 17

Mc Love

Shannon score is the other way around TLS

Stainalert

http://irishrugby.ie/news/43481.php#.XEcKQFX7TGg


Great try by Ballymena

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Hahaha irony of this considering some of previous posts made relating to me...

1A
Garryowen 22 UCC 23, Clontarf 24 Young Munster 20, Cork Con 28 Terenure 5, Lansdowne 66 Trinity 33, UCD 20 Shannon 24

1B
Ballymena 16 Buccaneers 20, Armagh 15 Banbridge 32, Malone 15 Ballynahinch 8, Old Belvedere 18 Naas 20, St Marys 15 Old Wesley 41

Lot of surprise results this weekend. Great win for UCC which will put pressure on the other teams around them. Sounds like they played some great rugby. Shannon with a really good away win also despite losing players to the U20's. UCD missing players as well but nonetheless a great result for Shannon. We went well against Trinity and got a few decent breaks in the game and then took the foot off the gas. If you do that against Trinity they will punish you as they keep playing and keep running. Baird looks a decent prospect.

1B remains as unpredictable as ever. Marys drop from 1st to 7th (!!!). Old Wesley coming good now. Buccaneers grinding out a very decent away win. Thought Belvo would do better.

NoScrumNoWin0

Stainalert wrote: »

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Hahaha irony of this considering some of previous posts made relating to me...

1A
Garryowen 22 UCC 23, Clontarf 24 Young Munster 20, Cork Con 28 Terenure 5, Lansdowne 66 Trinity 33, UCD 20 Shannon 24

1B
Ballymena 16 Buccaneers 20, Armagh 15 Banbridge 32, Malone 15 Ballynahinch 8, Old Belvedere 18 Naas 20, St Marys 15 Old Wesley 41

Lot of surprise results this weekend. Great win for UCC which will put pressure on the other teams around them. Sounds like they played some great rugby. Shannon with a really good away win also despite losing players to the U20's. UCD missing players as well but nonetheless a great result for Shannon. We went well against Trinity and got a few decent breaks in the game and then took the foot off the gas. If you do that against Trinity they will punish you as they keep playing and keep running. Baird looks a decent prospect.

1B remains as unpredictable as ever. Marys drop from 1st to 7th (!!!). Old Wesley coming good now. Buccaneers grinding out a very decent away win. Thought Belvo would do better.

How did Kelleher and Dowling get on for Lansdowne?
What kind of season is Peter Sullivan having? Worth another look by a province?

Finally how did Dan Sheehan(2) Jack Dunne(5) & Jack Kelly(15) get on for Trinity?

D14Rugby

Should probably change thread title no?

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

Should probably change thread title no?

Dont see too much issue with it. Yes Ulster Bank dont sponsor league but does it matter too much now if its All Ireland or Ulster Bank League...

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Dont see too much issue with it. Yes Ulster Bank dont sponsor league but does it matter too much now if its All Ireland or Ulster Bank League...

Apart from it not being the name of the league, which is a fairly standard requirement for a league thread no? No no problem whatsoever with it...

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

Apart from it not being the name of the league, which is a fairly standard requirement for a league thread no? No no problem whatsoever with it...

Oh it really isnt an issue. If it concerns you that much contact a mod and when thread started wasnt it still not known that ulster bank werent going to be involved and why has it only become an issue now...:rolleyes: and not any time before this....


1A
Friday 8pm
Shannon v Garryowen
Saturday
Trinity v Clontarf
Terenure v UCD
UCC v Lansdowne
Young Munster v Cork Con
1B
Ballynahinch v Ballymena
Banbridge v St Marys
Buccaneers v Old Belvedere
Naas v Armagh
Old Wesley v Malone
2A
Cashel v Queens
Dolphin v UL Bohs
Galwegians v Navan
Highfield v Nenagh
Old Crescent v Blackrock
2B
Greystones v Dungannon
Rainey Old Boys v Sundays Well
Skerries v Belfast Harlequins
Sligo v Corinthians
Wanderers v MU Barnhall
2C
Bangor v Ballina
Bruff v Malahide
City Of Derry v Midleton
Seapoint v Omagh
Tullamore v Thomond

Squidgy Black

Even the IRFU haven't changed over all their links on the website, everything still refers to it as the Ulster Bank league.

D14Rugby

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Even the IRFU haven't changed over all their links on the website, everything still refers to it as the Ulster Bank league.

The urls still say ulsterbankleague but that's just poor/lazy Web design. All the actual content has been updated. Two wrongs...

Stainalert

NoScrumNoWin0 wrote: »

Stainalert wrote: »

How did Kelleher and Dowling get on for Lansdowne?
What kind of season is Peter Sullivan having? Worth another look by a province?

Finally how did Dan Sheehan(2) Jack Dunne(5) & Jack Kelly(15) get on for Trinity?

Kelleher was excellent and I thought Dowling was very good also. Peter Sullivan is going well and progressing - already training with 7's squad I understand.

Dan Sheehan very good in the loose with some excellent ball carrying. Lineout OK.

Jack Dunne did reasonably well and Jack Kelly was good also (seriously big for a full back)

NoScrumNoWin0

Stainalert wrote: »

Kelleher was excellent and I thought Dowling was very good also. Peter Sullivan is going well and progressing - already training with 7's squad I understand.

Dan Sheehan very good in the loose with some excellent ball carrying. Lineout OK.

Jack Dunne did reasonably well and Jack Kelly was good also (seriously big for a full back)

thanks, interesting to see Dowling and Dunne in leinster 23 for the weekend.

all reports on Kelleher are great, somewhat surprised he hasn't gotten his debut yet.

RockBoysarewii

NoScrumNoWin0 wrote: »

thanks, interesting to see Dowling and Dunne in leinster 23 for the weekend.

all reports on Kelleher are great, somewhat surprised he hasn't gotten his debut yet.

Probably because hooker is such a crucial position.

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

The urls still say ulsterbankleague but that's just poor/lazy Web design. All the actual content has been updated. Two wrongs...

But why has this only become an issue now...


And Bateman cup final confirmed for April 20th in Marys

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

But why has this only become an issue now...


And Bateman cup final confirmed for April 20th in Marys

Christ almighty its not a personal insult or anything calm down its just something that clicked with me now since someone pointed out to me that they saw a club still had ulster Bank hoardings up during the week and they said it'd be confusing for any new fans who didn't know the name had changed.

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

Christ almighty its not a personal insult or anything calm down its just something that clicked with me now since someone pointed out to me that they saw a club still had ulster Bank hoardings up during the week and they said it'd be confusing for any new fans who didn't know the name had changed.

Where did i suggest it was. You're the one who needs to calm down... ffs.
Many clubs will have the Ulster bank hoardings up in place. Wont be replacing many of them every season etc.

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Where did i suggest it was. You're the one who needs to calm down... ffs.
Many clubs will have the Ulster bank hoardings up in place. Wont be replacing many of them every season etc.

You're acting as if I personally slapped you across the face and insulted you for the thread title. It's simply something that just clicked with me that it was wrong and I thought it might be a nice idea for a thread dedicated to a league that has a serious name to have the name of the league correct and shouldn't be that hard to change. The clubs won't change them because they can't afford to and it looks better having them than an empty space, it costs nothing to change a thread title..

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

You're acting as if I personally slapped you across the face and insulted you for the thread title. It's simply something that just clicked with me that it was wrong and I thought it might be a nice idea for a thread dedicated to a league that has a serious name to have the name of the league correct and shouldn't be that hard to change. The clubs won't change them because they can't afford to and it looks better having them than an empty space, it costs nothing to change a thread title..

Im not and i dont actually care if its UBL/AIL. If it concerns you that its wrong PM a mod to edit it as i cant.
And i dont see how the name being as it is makes it less serious.
people are still all over Social media saying ubl.

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

And i dont see how the name being as it is makes it less serious.

:rolleyes: my point is that if it's serious it should be accurate......

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

:rolleyes: my point is that if it's serious it should be accurate......

have you thought about contacting the IRFU about it as it appears no one else is too concerned about it considering its January over half way through the regular league season and IRFU havent changed things and they would have if contacted..

D14Rugby

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

have you thought about contacting the IRFU about it as it appears no one else is too concerned about it considering its January over half way through the regular league season and IRFU havent changed things and they would have if contacted..

Your mum never give you the whole "if all your friends were jumping off a cliff would you jump too?" talk? Just because so many people are wrong doesn't give everyone else an excuse to be wrong too

Limerick 37.5

All roads lead to Thomond Park tomorrow evening. Should attract a good crowd.

The Lost Sheep

D14Rugby wrote: »

Your mum never give you the whole "if all your friends were jumping off a cliff would you jump too?" talk? Just because so many people are wrong doesn't give everyone else an excuse to be wrong too

So thats a no then?

Limerick 37.5 wrote: »

All roads lead to Thomond Park tomorrow evening. Should attract a good crowd.

You would hope it does. Might go into thomond for this.

Limerick 37.5

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

So thats a no then?

You would hope it does. Might go into thomond for this.

Match result could define both clubs season, a Garryowen win consolidates 4th place and has Shannon looking over their shoulders. A Shannon win nearly guarantees them Div 1 status and puts Garryowen in to mid table mediocrity.

Stainalert

1A

Friday 8pm

Shannon v Garryowen - Big crowd expected I gather which is great to see. Garryowen will be sore after last week and I fancy them to sneak an away win.

Saturday

Trinity v Clontarf - Expect Trinity to be missing a lot of forwards this week (Jack Dunne: Leinster, Ryan Baird, Coyne: Irish 20's with Clarkson already gone). I think Tarf will grind out the win and will have way too much power up front for the students.

Terenure v UCD - UCD less effected by defections to 20's than in normal years. Decent looking backline if Twitter is right. I am going for another away win.

UCC v Lansdowne - Great win for UCC last week and I believe they played a lot of good rugby so expecting a tough battle in the Mardyke. UCC look to have a pretty settled team this week which should help them a lot. Battle of half-backs will be very interesting.

Young Munster v Cork Con - Given recent form hard to see anything but a Con win but I don't think you can ever underestimate Munsters at home and this is a must win game for them with UCC winning last week. Against all logic but going for a home win.

1B - The lottery!!

Ballynahinch v Ballymena - Both teams badly need the win. Hinch to make home advantage pay.

Banbridge v St Marys - Great win for Banbridge last week and I think they will go well this week and take Marys this week

Buccaneers v Old Belvedere - This really is a season defining game for both teams. Buccs likely to be down a few with all the changes this week from Connacht and I think Belvo will come out all guns blazing and get the away win that could really ignite the 2nd half of the season for them.

Naas v Armagh - Was very surprised with the Armagh loss last week and I think they will get back on track this week with a win away to Naas

Old Wesley v Malone - Great fixture with 1 v 2 - Both teams should have plenty of confidence going into this fixture. Old Wesley by a whisker.

pnpweirdo

Roll along Shannon forwards roll along

The Lost Sheep

2A
Cashel (2nd) v Queens (5th)
Dolphin (8th) v UL Bohs (4th)
Galwegians (10th) v Navan (3rd)
Highfield (1st) v Nenagh (7th)
Old Crescent (6th) v Blackrock (9th)

2B
Greystones (2nd) v Dungannon (8th)
Rainey Old Boys (3rd) v Sundays Well (9th)
Skerries (7th) v Belfast Harlequins (10th)
Sligo (5th) v Corinthians (6th)
Wanderers (4th) v MU Barnhall (1st)
2C
Bangor (6th) v Ballina (1st)
Bruff (4th) v Malahide (5th)
City Of Derry (8th) v Midleton (2nd)
Seapoint (10th) v Omagh (3rd)
Tullamore (7th) v Thomond (9th)

The Lost Sheep

Tough result for wegians today. Were leading 5-0 and Navan got score in 75th minute or so then were able to keep Wegians out who were all out attacking to get back a lead again. got out of jail big time
1A
Shannon 7 Garryowen 28
Trinity 29 Clontarf 21
Terenure 49 UCD 21
UCC 25 Lansdowne 22
Young Munster 5 Cork Con 31
1B
Ballynahinch 19 Ballymena 14
Banbridge 18 St Marys 16
Buccaneers 20 Old Belvedere 12
Naas 23 Armagh 23
Old Wesley 17 Malone 21
2A
Cashel 35 Queens 15
Dolphin 19 UL Bohs 23
Galwegians 5 Navan 7
Highfield 40 Nenagh Ormond 22
Old Crescent 49 Blackrock College 17
2B
Greystones 26 Dungannon 8
Rainey Old Boys 21 Sundays Well 12
Skerries 7 Belfast Harlequins 11
Sligo 17 Galway Corinthians 18
Wanderers 7 MU Barnhall 38
2C
Bangor 28 Ballina 46
Bruff 32 Malahide 17
City Of Derry 19 Midleton 18
Seapoint 23 Omagh 14
Tullamore 11 Thomond 15