Ulster Bank League 2018-2019 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

The Lost Sheep

Wegians beat Ballina 36-34 in connacht league

The Lost Sheep

New podcast for the league from few guys in Limerick
https://twitter.com/theclubscenepod

Chico Flores

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

New podcast for the league from few guys in Limerick
https://twitter.com/theclubscenepod

Should be worth giving a listen to.

Since Knock On stopped - been looking for a club game outlet etc

Stainalert

Terenure and Lansdowne play in the final of the Leinster Senior League this Friday in Donnybrook at 7.30pm

The Lost Sheep

Cookies team to play Garryowen tomorrow in senior cup
Young Munster
Alan Tynan, Jason Kiely, Derek Corcoran, Luke Fitzgerald, Ed O Keefe, Clayton Stewart, Stephen Kerins,
Gavin Ryan, Mark O Meara, Conor Bartley, Tom Goggin, Alan Kennedy, Diarmuid Dee, Dan Walsh, John Foley
subs
Shane Fenton, Colm Skehan, Alan Ross, Conor Mitchell, Shane Airey, Josh Wycherly, Tom McHale

Few new signings playing there. Derek Corcoran and Clayton Stewart from Nenagh
Wycherly finished school.

realhorrorshow

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Cookies team to play Garryowen tomorrow in senior cup
Young Munster
Alan Tynan, Jason Kiely, Derek Corcoran, Luke Fitzgerald, Ed O Keefe, Clayton Stewart, Stephen Kerins,
Gavin Ryan, Mark O Meara, Conor Bartley, Tom Goggin, Alan Kennedy, Diarmuid Dee, Dan Walsh, John Foley
subs
Shane Fenton, Colm Skehan, Alan Ross, Conor Mitchell, Shane Airey, Josh Wycherly, Tom McHale

Few new signings playing there. Derek Corcoran and Clayton Stewart from Nenagh
Wycherly finished school.

How long has Kerins been with Munsters?

The Lost Sheep

realhorrorshow wrote: »

How long has Kerins been with Munsters?

Meant to add him in previous post. He was with Corinthians last season

realhorrorshow

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Meant to add him in previous post. He was with Corinthians last season

Was thinking that alright, dunno how often he played for them he was never playing in any game I was at/reading about. Interesting move.

Chico Flores

Real rugby back this weekend!

iminterestd0

Leinster Senior League Final. Lansdowne won 42-5 against Terenure.

ArmchairQB

Stainalert wrote: »

Terenure and Lansdowne play in the final of the Leinster Senior League this Friday in Donnybrook at 7.30pm

Good win for Lansdowne 42-5 I think? I saw 2nd half on way home from work, Kielys closed was a schock, knew it was coming but thought it might be after Christmas. Lansdowne were impressive enough, Terenure looked to be in bother at scrum time but looked like a few players missing from each team as still early season with a cup up for grabs in September!! They looked worthy winners from what bit I saw

Stainalert

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Stainalert wrote: »

Terenure and Lansdowne play in the final of the Leinster Senior League this Friday in Donnybrook at 7.30pm

Good win for Lansdowne 42-5 I think? I  saw 2nd half on way home from work, Kielys closed was a schock, knew it was coming but thought it might be after Christmas. Lansdowne were impressive enough, Terenure looked to be in bother at scrum time but looked like a few players missing from each team as still early season with a cup up for grabs in September!! They looked worthy winners from what bit I saw

Good win first half was very tight with Terenure having the majority of possession. Terenure definitely missing a few and Lansdowne probably closer to full strength.

iminterestd0

Stainalert wrote: »

Good win first half was very tight with Terenure having the majority of possession. Terenure definitely missing a few and Lansdowne probably closer to full strength.

any teamsheets?

Stainalert

Clontarf had a big win in Leinster Senior Cup over UCD 59-19

Garryowen just sneaked past Young Munster in Munster senior Cup 26-23

Stainalert

iminterestd0 wrote: »

Stainalert wrote: »

Good win first half was very tight with Terenure having the majority of possession. Terenure definitely missing a few and Lansdowne probably closer to full strength.

any teamsheets?

Lansdowne team is on the Lansdowne twitter feed

Stainalert

15. Eamonn Mills (Capt.); 14. Peter Sullivan, 13. Harry Brennan, 12. Fergal Cleary, 11. Mark O’Keeffe; 10. Scott Deasy 9. Tim Murphy; 1. Denis Coulson. 2. James Rael, 3. Ian Prendiville; 4. David O’Connor, 5. Willie Earle, 6. Joe O’Brien, 7. Aaron Conneely, 8. Jack O’Sullivan.
Subs: 16. Tyrone Moran, 17. Martin Mulhall, 18. William Fay, 19. Gareth Molloy, 20. Daniel McEvoy, 21. Tom Roche, 22. Greg McGrath

Mc Love

Shannon had a very good 36-0 win away to Sundays Well in the MSC

The Lost Sheep

Mc Love wrote: »

Shannon had a very good 36-0 win away to Sundays Well in the MSC

1A side should be beating 2B side comfortably enough.

The Lost Sheep

round one fixtures next weekend
2A
Saturday 2.30pm
Blackrock College v Galwegians
Cashel v Dolphin
Navan v Nenagh Ormond
Queens University v Old Crescent
UL Bohs v Highfield
2B
Friday 8pm
Wanderers v Greystones
Saturday 2.30pm
Dungannon v Skerries
Corinthians v Belfast Harlequins
Barnhall v Rainey Old Boys
Sundays Well v Sligo
2C
Saturday 2.30pm
Ballina v Omagh
City of Derry v Tullamore
Malahide v Bangor
Midleton v Bruff
Thomond v Seapoint

gilesdebond

Division 1 isn't kicking off until the 5th & 6th of October due to the Celtic Cup

The Lost Sheep

gilesdebond wrote: »

Division 1 isn't kicking off until the 5th & 6th of October due to the Celtic Cup

Aye it isnt. Didnt mean to add division 1 fixtures.

The Lost Sheep

Colleges league fixtures published on studentsport.ie.
Always is a few AIL players involved across the divisions and while UCC, UL, Queens field teams its far from there AIL sides playing in full together
Athlone, DCU, DIT, Garda College, IT Carlow, Ulster University are sides in Division1

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

round one fixtures next weekend
2A
Saturday 2.30pm
Blackrock College v Galwegians
Cashel v Dolphin
Navan v Nenagh Ormond
Queens University v Old Crescent
UL Bohs v Highfield
2B
Friday 8pm
Wanderers v Greystones
Saturday 2.30pm
Dungannon v Skerries
Corinthians v Belfast Harlequins
Barnhall v Rainey Old Boys
Sundays Well v Sligo
2C
Saturday 2.30pm
Ballina v Omagh
City of Derry v Tullamore
Malahide v Bangor
Midleton v Bruff
Thomond v Seapoint

Who do people fancy as the teams to watch in these divisions?

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

Who do people fancy as the teams to watch in these divisions?

Saw this earlier but was on way to ref some school games and then had to go to work.

I think Highfield will do well in 2A and are my favourites to go up. Theyve already played 2 sides in this division in cup games and won both. Beating Nenagh 34-10 and Old Crescent 29-24.
On the other hand im not sure Nenagh Ormond will do as well this season. Theyve been in playoff final for promotion to 1B for the last 2 seasons but have lost a considerable amount of experience with kiwi 10 Clayton stewart biggest loss. Muldoons also have finished up with them.
Bohs wont be going straight back up to 1B. Beaten in both cup games by the tipp sides. By Nenagh in Charity Cup 27-17 and Cashel in senior cup 23-16. Both in Annacotty. Lost a fair few players as well. Armagh dont appear to be as good as last season on basis of Ulster league games.
So think its Highfield to lose and playoff places could be any number of sides.

The Lost Sheep

Preview of Galway clubs ahead of start of the league with interviews with presidents, coaches and captain of each club
https://galwaybayfm.ie/all-ireland-league-preview-galwegians-and-corinthians/

Mc Love

Bunch of lads from Limerick just started a new Club Rugby podcast. Gave it a listen and they definitely know their stuff. It can be a bit Limerick centric at times but I found it quite enjoyable. Dave Newman from Ballina makes a guest appearance ahead of their return to the AIL

spotify:episode:0nOCn0NpScV28Bfwb7FqxY

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0nOCn0NpScV28Bfwb7FqxY?si=Z-pfqLoETSCBSAgwQ8Se5Q

The Lost Sheep

Mc Love wrote: »

Bunch of lads from Limerick just started a new Club Rugby podcast. Gave it a listen and they definitely know their stuff. It can be a bit Limerick centric at times but I found it quite enjoyable. Dave Newman from Ballina makes a guest appearance ahead of their return to the AIL

spotify:episode:0nOCn0NpScV28Bfwb7FqxY

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0nOCn0NpScV28Bfwb7FqxY?si=Z-pfqLoETSCBSAgwQ8Se5Q

Yeah its started well. Great to see. Will be bit Limerick centric to start but should expand in time.

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Mc Love wrote: »

Bunch of lads from Limerick just started a new Club Rugby podcast. Gave it a listen and they definitely know their stuff. It can be a bit Limerick centric at times but I found it quite enjoyable. Dave Newman from Ballina makes a guest appearance ahead of their return to the AIL

spotify:episode:0nOCn0NpScV28Bfwb7FqxY

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0nOCn0NpScV28Bfwb7FqxY?si=Z-pfqLoETSCBSAgwQ8Se5Q

Yeah its started well. Great to see. Will be bit Limerick centric to start but should expand in time.

Enjoyed it

Chico Flores

Des Berry tweeting starting line ups for alot of teams.

The Lost Sheep

Interesting to actually see confirmed transfers for the division2 clubs whove named teams.

realhorrorshow

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Interesting to actually see confirmed transfers for the division2 clubs whove named teams.

Any catch your eye in particular?

The Lost Sheep

2A
Blackrock College 30 Galwegians 20, Cashel 26 Dolphin 10, Navan 36 Nenagh Ormond 16, Queen's University 19 Old Crescent 21, UL Bohemians 10 Highfield 36
2B
Dungannon 28 Skerries 25, Corinthians 11 Belfast Harlequins 15, MU Barnhall 36 Rainey Old Boys 14, Sunday's Well 20 Sligo 17, Wanderers 17 Greystones 24
2C
Ballina 23 Omagh 19, City of Derry 29 Tullamore 15, Malahide 19 Bangor 44, Midleton 35 Bruff 8, Thomond 33 Seapoint 22

The Lost Sheep

Anyone at a game yesterday?
Both sides relegated from 1B well beaten in 2A. Very big win for Navan at home to Nenagh.
Great start for Ballina in their return to senior status.

telmah

Was at the UL Bohs-Highfield match.Highfield were far superior in nearly every facet of play.The Bohs scrum was strong for the first forty but Highfield's fitness was a huge factor leading to a 6-1 try victory.(Kevin O Byrne doing a lot of S and C work with Highfield during pre-season.)

Chico Flores

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

2A
Blackrock College 30 Galwegians 20, Cashel 26 Dolphin 10, Navan 36 Nenagh Ormond 16, Queen's University 19 Old Crescent 21, UL Bohemians 10 Highfield 36
2B
Dungannon 28 Skerries 25, Corinthians 11 Belfast Harlequins 15, MU Barnhall 36 Rainey Old Boys 14, Sunday's Well 20 Sligo 17, Wanderers 17 Greystones 24
2C
Ballina 23 Omagh 19, City of Derry 29 Tullamore 15, Malahide 19 Bangor 44, Midleton 35 Bruff 8, Thomond 33 Seapoint 22

Navan, Highfield, Barnhall and Bangor results all stand out there as particularly impressive I think.

The Lost Sheep

Chico Flores wrote: »

Navan, Highfield, Barnhall and Bangor results all stand out there as particularly impressive I think.

Does the Highfield result stand out?
Navan stand out by the margin considering theyve just went up to 2A but Nenagh have lost a lot of players from last season as well as got a new coaching team in
Highfield result doesnt stand out too much considering Bohs have lost all games pre league as well as having lost quite a few players due to relegation.

Chico Flores

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Does the Highfield result stand out?
Navan stand out by the margin considering theyve just went up to 2A but Nenagh have lost a lot of players from last season as well as got a new coaching team in
Highfield result doesnt stand out too much considering Bohs have lost all games pre league as well as having lost quite a few players due to relegation.

Navan have lost players and a new coaching team in place too.

The Lost Sheep

Will there be many clubs who will be affected by PPS this season?
45 players cant exceed 100 points through that system.

Stainalert

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Will there be many clubs who will be affected by PPS this season?
45 players cant exceed 100 points through that system.

Can't really see it effecting many clubs. 100 points limit is pretty managable

madds

Was at the Mu Barnhall/Rainey OB match. Home side had the BP in the bag after 30 mins. Rainey eventually got going and made it a much more even contest after the break but damage had already been done.

Chico Flores

madds wrote: »

Was at the Mu Barnhall/Rainey OB match. Home side had the BP in the bag after 30 mins. Rainey eventually got going and made it a much more even contest after the break but damage had already been done.

Assume it will still be those two sides and Greystones fighting it out.

Was it hit and run by Barnhall or better side on the day?

The Lost Sheep

This weeks fixtures
Friday
1A
8pm Clontarf v Lansdowne
2A
8pm Old Crescent v Cashel
2B
8pm Skerries v Barnhall
Saturday
1A
Cork Con v Shannon
Garryowen v Dublin University
UCD v UCC
Young Munster v Terenure
1B
Ballymena v Malone
Buccaneers v Naas
Armagh v Old Wesley
Old Belvedere v Banbridge
St Marys v Ballynahinch
2A
Dolphin v Navan
Galwegians v UL Bohs
Highfield v Queens University
Nenagh Ormond v Blackrock
2B
Belfast Harlequins v Sundays Well
Greystones v Corinthians
Rainey Old Boys v Wanderers
Sligo v Dungannon
2C
Bangor v Thomond
Bruff v City of Derry
Omagh v Malahide
Seapoint v Midleton
Tullamore v Ballina

CMcsporty

telmah wrote: »

Was at the UL Bohs-Highfield match.Highfield were far superior in nearly every facet of play.The Bohs scrum was strong for the first forty but Highfield's fitness was a huge factor leading to a 6-1 try victory.(Kevin O Byrne doing a lot of S and C work with Highfield during pre-season.)

Just curious to know if this is the Kevin O’Byrne of Munster… & UL Bohemians?
I've heard good things about him.
p.s. this is not his mom!

The Lost Sheep

CMcsporty wrote: »

Just curious to know if this is the Kevin O’Byrne of Munster… & UL Bohemians?
I've heard good things about him.
p.s. this is not his mom!

It would. He's from Highfield. Won an all ireland u18 title in 2009 with them.

madds

Chico Flores wrote: »

Assume it will still be those two sides and Greystones fighting it out.

Was it hit and run by Barnhall or better side on the day?

In fairness they were the better side on the day. Rainey's outhalf didn't want to know about contact - he looked pretty light, think he previously played full back for them. Their 9 and 14 stood out.

Number 137

The 9 and 14 for Barnhall or Rainey?

The Lost Sheep

Chico Flores wrote: »

Navan have lost players and a new coaching team in place too.

But they were promoted and on up.
Nenagh are already in trouble in terms of both props and outside backs in general..

Interesting to see from IRFU site Navan have former Munster academy scrum half Brian Haugh playing for them.

Stainalert

1A
Clontarf v Lansdowne - should be a great start to 1A - Castle Avenue always a difficult place to go, will be interesting to see how all the Trinity additions go for Tarf. Hopefully we can sneak it.

Cork Con v Shannon - Haven't heard much team news about Con but expect them to be strong. Tough ask for Shannon on their return to 1A but think Con will shade this

Garryowen v Dublin University - Expect Garryowen to challenge very strongly this year and just can't see Trinity competing this week given the players they have lost and the players away with Leinster A

UCD v UCC - Ideal opening fixture for both teams to find their groove. Good time to get UCD with so many players tied up in Celtic Cup. Paul Kiernan likely to make his debut for UCD against his old club. UCC might surprise UCD

Young Munster v Terenure - Terenure have lost a bit of beef up front and I would expect Young Munster to take full advantage of this

1B
Ballymena v Malone - First of many Ulster derbies in 1B this season. Always fancy Ballymena at home but Malone seem to be in a good place so going for an away win

Buccaneers v Naas - Naas have been pretty busy on the recruitment front from what I hear. Expect both these teams to challenge strongly this season. Buccs to win.

Armagh v Old Wesley - Wesley have some decent young players who will need to front up in what I think will be a tricky away trip. I will go with Wesley more because I really don't know enough about Armagh.

Old Belvedere v Banbridge - Belvo look to have a bit more steel to them this year. Would imagine Banbridge are hurting after narrowly missing promotion last season but think Belvo will get the home win

St Marys v Ballynahinch - Think this is going to be a difficult season for Marys - don't think they have the squad. Hinch to win well.

The Lost Sheep

Stainalert wrote: »

1A
Clontarf v Lansdowne - should be a great start to 1A - Castle Avenue always a difficult place to go, will be interesting to see how all the Trinity additions go for Tarf. Hopefully we can sneak it.

Cork Con v Shannon - Haven't heard much team news about Con but expect them to be strong. Tough ask for Shannon on their return to 1A but think Con will shade this

Garryowen v Dublin University - Expect Garryowen to challenge very strongly this year and just can't see Trinity competing this week given the players they have lost and the players away with Leinster A

UCD v UCC - Ideal opening fixture for both teams to find their groove. Good time to get UCD with so many players tied up in Celtic Cup. Paul Kiernan likely to make his debut for UCD against his old club. UCC might surprise UCD

Young Munster v Terenure - Terenure have lost a bit of beef up front and I would expect Young Munster to take full advantage of this

1B
Ballymena v Malone - First of many Ulster derbies in 1B this season. Always fancy Ballymena at home but Malone seem to be in a good place so going for an away win

Buccaneers v Naas - Naas have been pretty busy on the recruitment front from what I hear. Expect both these teams to challenge strongly this season. Buccs to win.

Armagh v Old Wesley - Wesley have some decent young players who will need to front up in what I think will be a tricky away trip. I will go with Wesley more because I really don't know enough about Armagh.

Old Belvedere v Banbridge - Belvo look to have a bit more steel to them this year. Would imagine Banbridge are hurting after narrowly missing promotion last season but think Belvo will get the home win

St Marys v Ballynahinch - Think this is going to be a difficult season for Marys - don't think they have the squad. Hinch to win well.

Thoughts on Division2?

Dont think Wesley will have to worry about fronting up. They're always massive and can deal with this Armagh side. Banbridge, Buccs, Ballymena to also win

Chico Flores

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

But they were promoted and on up.
Nenagh are already in trouble in terms of both props and outside backs in general..

Interesting to see from IRFU site Navan have former Munster academy scrum half Brian Haugh playing for them.

Brian Haugh has been their 9 for 2 seasons. Into his 3rd with them

Alan Kingsley brought him in