Tommy Robinson jailed

ohnonotgmail

thebull85 wrote: »

Captain you are missing the point here, it is where i sourced the information about tommys court appearance. So i posted it to show where i sourced the information do you understand what the word source means?

well then perhaps you should stick to using journalists as a source instead of Info wars.

thebull85

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

from post 542 in this thread. My source is from an actual journalist not Info Wars who i imagine would struggle to spell the word journalist.



https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/

Who is this journalist what is his/her name?

ohnonotgmail

thebull85 wrote: »

Who is this journalist what is his/her name?

did you even bother to open the link? It is literally in the first line. There is a link to a local newspaper that covered his sentencing. Here is a direct link as you are too lazy to do it yourself


https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/tommy-robinson-jailed-couldnt-report-14704946

thebull85

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

did you even bother to open the link? It is literally in the first line. There is a link to a local newspaper that covered his sentencing. Here is a direct link as you are too lazy to do it yourself


https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/tommy-robinson-jailed-couldnt-report-14704946

I read down as far as "nazi themed protest" that was enough for me.

thebull85

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

did you even bother to open the link? It is literally in the first line. There is a link to a local newspaper that covered his sentencing. Here is a direct link as you are too lazy to do it yourself


https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/tommy-robinson-jailed-couldnt-report-14704946

And LOL at Leeds live any relation to Dublin live?

listermint

thebull85 wrote: »

And LOL at Leeds live any relation to Dublin live?

Are you 'real'

This has to be parody or maybe pantomine.


You are putting on a show, right ? :eek:

ohnonotgmail

thebull85 wrote: »

And LOL at Leeds live any relation to Dublin live?

So your source is the biggest right-wing troll on the planet and mine are journalists that were actually in the court but you still think you are in a position to sneer? sweet suffering jaysus.

Zubeneschamali

thebull85 wrote: »

I read down as far as "nazi themed protest" that was enough for me.

I don't see the phrase "nazi themed protest" at that link.

Or the word Nazi, or Themed.

thebull85

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

So your source is the biggest right-wing troll on the planet and mine are journalists that were actually in the court but you still think you are in a position to sneer? sweet suffering jaysus.

No my source is Caolan Robertson.

thebull85

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

I don't see the phrase "nazi themed protest" at that link.

Or the word Nazi, or Themed.

Sorry ill correct myself, Nazi themed march.

The link provided by ohnonotgmail, the secret barrister.

listermint

thebull85 wrote: »

No my source is Caolan Robertson.

Youve literally made stuff up.

searched google for sources after youve made statements.

Misconstrued actual sources given to you. And made up information that doesnt exist in articles.

You have to be playing a part in a show of some description. I havent quite figured it out yet.

thebull85

listermint wrote: »

Youve literally made stuff up.

searched google for sources after youve made statements.

Misconstrued actual sources given to you. And made up information that doesnt exist in articles.

You have to be playing a part in a show of some description. I havent quite figured it out yet.

What did i make up?

ohnonotgmail

thebull85 wrote: »

No my source is Caolan Robertson.

your source is Info Wars.

Call Me Jimmy

Alex jones is crazy and dangerous, however he yesterday got a first hand account from Tommy's formerly gagged court proceedings. Any news outlet could do it, but very few mainstream if any, did. I am particularly interested in the way Tommy was put away, as there are instances in his past where police have at best stretched the truth (and proven so in court) attempting to having him jailed. I have never heard of a defendant not getting to chance to have their personal legal representative, could be a valid reason for it but very strange.

ohnonotgmail

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Alex jones is crazy and dangerous, however he yesterday got a first hand account from Tommy's formerly gagged court proceedings. Any news outlet could do it, but very few mainstream if any, did.

the bbc covered it. the metro covered it. I posted a link to another newspaper that covered it. The difference is that Alex couldn't tell the truth is he truth.

wes

thebull85 wrote: »

No my source is Caolan Robertson.

Caolan Robertson – Pretend Journalist


Write for "Rebel Media" a far right Canadian outfit. So he is a far right activist, who appeared on a conspiracy theory youtube channel, who again claims that families of victims of mass shootings are crisis actors. So yeah your source is info wars as that is where he appeared and that is what you posted.

Boom_Bap

Jaysus is this thread about the recent Tommy Robinson arrest or is it an award ceremony for greatest source in the world 2018?

wes

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Jaysus is this thread about the recent Tommy Robinson arrest or is it an award ceremony for greatest source in the world 2018?

Well the flat earth society should get the award .

ohnonotgmail

wes wrote: »

Caolan Robertson – Pretend Journalist


Write for "Rebel Media" a far right Canadian outfit. So he is a far right activist, who appeared on a conspiracy theory youtube channel, who again claims that families of victims of mass shootings are crisis actors. So yeah your source is info wars as that is where he appeared and that is what you posted.

He was fired from Rebel Media.

thebull85

wes wrote: »

Caolan Robertson – Pretend Journalist


Write for "Rebel Media" a far right Canadian outfit. So he is a far right activist, who appeared on a conspiracy theory youtube channel, who again claims that families of victims of mass shootings are crisis actors. So yeah your source is info wars as that is where he appeared and that is what you posted.

Ok.... That doesnt change what he said, im sorry you dont like the source. I havent came on here lied like another poster has claimed. I made a statement and then posted a video. Why are you so annoyed?

Captain Obvious

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Alex jones is crazy and dangerous, however he yesterday got a first hand account from Tommy's formerly gagged court proceedings. Any news outlet could do it, but very few mainstream if any, did. I am particularly interested in the way Tommy was put away, as there are instances in his past where police have at best stretched the truth (and proven so in court) attempting to having him jailed. I have never heard of a defendant not getting to chance to have their personal legal representative, could be a valid reason for it but very strange.

Info Wars is not a news outlet. It's an entertainment show. Alex Jones is not a journalist. He is an actor. The reason he appears to scoop actual news sources is because they verify their sources.

Call Me Jimmy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

your source is Info Wars.

Don't take this as implicit defense of infowars, but you're talking about sources, your's calls the march 'neo-nazi' themed, I click the link, daily mail video, no sign of neo nazi symbols or sentiments, black guy singing Tommy Tommy Robinson in the crowd.

Snake Plisken

Speaking of mistrials Tommy should have one as the judge in his case was a witness to his arrest and was caught laughing out the window at him being arrested!
https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1001505639976189954?s=21

listermint

thebull85 wrote: »

Ok.... That doesnt change what he said, im sorry you dont like the source. I havent came on here lied like another poster has claimed. I made a statement and then posted a video. Why are you so annoyed?

You lied,

Then corrected yourself.

I commend you on correcting yourself but does not excuse the original post was in fact 'a lie'....

Call Me Jimmy

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Info Wars is not a news outlet. It's an entertainment show. Alex Jones is not a journalist. He is an actor. The reason he appears to scoop actual news sources is because they verify their sources.

I never said he was a news outlet. In that case I watched him interviewing Tommy Robinsons cameraman, who was in the court, so I got first hand information of what happened which was my goal. *shrugs*

ohnonotgmail

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Speaking of mistrials Tommy should have one as the judge in his case was a witness to his arrest and was caught laughing out the window at him being arrested!
https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1001505639976189954?s=21

On what basis? He seen him arrested. Assuming the photo is correct. So what?

ohnonotgmail

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I never said he was a news outlet. In that case I watched him interviewing Tommy Robinsons cameraman, who was in the court, so I got first hand information of what happened which was my goal. *shrugs*

Completely impartial i'm sure. Not at all biased.

Captain Obvious

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Speaking of mistrials Tommy should have one as the judge in his case was a witness to his arrest and was caught laughing out the window at him being arrested!

And on what basis do you believe that a judge witnessing the arrest prevents him from judging the case in relation to contempt of court? That'd be a new one. Can you imagine it? Someone kicks of in court and the judge says "You are in contempt of court. Hang on there while I find another judge to deal with you because I witnessed your actions."

Call Me Jimmy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Completely impartial i'm sure. Not at all biased.

Of course he's biased, that goes without saying surely? Do you have an article from someone else who was there?

ohnonotgmail

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Of course he's biased, that goes without saying surely? Do you have an article from someone else who was there?

AHFFS are all the right wing lot so lazy? I posted one in the last hour. 2 journalists that were actually in the court. Journalists, not tommys mate.

Call Me Jimmy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

AHFFS are all the right wing lot so lazy? I posted one in the last hour. 2 journalists that were actually in the court. Journalists, not tommys mate.

I honestly didn't see it, was a genuine question. And I'm not right wing.

Snake Plisken

Captain Obvious wrote: »

And on what basis do you believe that a judge witnessing the arrest prevents him from judging the case in relation to contempt of court? That'd be a new one. Can you imagine it? Someone kicks of in court and the judge says "You are in contempt of court. Hang on there while I find another judge to deal with you because I witnessed your actions."

Would you trust a judge that laughs at you while you are bing arrested to, give you a fair hearing and sentence? I for one wouldn’t!

ohnonotgmail

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I honestly didn't see it, was a genuine question. And I'm not right wing.

link here https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/tommy-robinson-jailed-couldnt-report-14704946


excellent analysis by a practicing barrister here https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/

Grayson

pumpkin4life wrote: »

The dirty little secret is that a lot of the Middle to Upper Middle class despise the working class, as it tends to pervade their holier than shìte bubble view of the world. Muslim rape gangs in Luton? We can't have that. Black teenage gangs in Balbriggan and Tyrrelstown? Where are the Irish Times for that? That benny Fintan O Toole talking about compassion? Where's that again?

They hate Tommy because he's the guy that breaks their view of reality, and even despite his flaws, anyone who has grown up in those kinds of estates knows exactly what he is talking about.

Considering from what posters like wes and Grayson have said about their background on here, they haven't a clue. That's how bad these areas have become.

Orwell wrote about it before. Said socialists and a lot of middle class tend to hate the rich, and use the working class as a way to push that forward. Yet they are part of the problem themselves. Great point in my opinion.

Let's see. things I mentioned in the past.

I grew up in a small cottage in the countryside.
I went to a regular national school.
My mother was a nurse. My dad was unemployed and on welfare for most of his life. Both are northsiders. My entire extended family live in the northside.
We moved to Iraq for a year when I was a child because there were no jobs in Ireland in the mid 80's.
I went to a local catholic boarding school as a day pupil. Fees were less that a hundred pounds a year.
At one point my mother had three jobs to support us.
I worked full time and went to college full time at the same time. I managed to get two degrees and a masters whilst doing this.

What exactly is it about my background that makes me unable to understand the rational behind your bigotry? is it that I met loads of muslims? is it that I educated myself? Is it that I've travelled?
At what point have I said anything positive about these rape gangs? At what point have I said anything positive about "Black" gangs? Criminals should be put in jail.

The one thing I've said is that you cannot take the actions of a few and extend it to say that everyone in that group is like that. You can't discriminate against all muslims because of the actions of a few. That's not a radical leftist thought. that's basic equality. Don't discriminate against one human being because of someone else that they have nothing to do with.
I've also said in this thread that Tommy Robinson is a violent criminal. That it's wrong to disrupt the proceedings of a trial of alleged paedophiles because it would be horrible to see a mistrial. Horrible crimes were committed. I want to see those accused get a fair trial and, assuming they are guilty, they get locked up.

ohnonotgmail

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Would you trust a judge that laughs at you while you are bing arrested to, give you a fair hearing and sentence? I for one wouldn’t!

Do you think the judge erred in law in his judgement?

WinnyThePoo

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

AHFFS are all the right wing lot so lazy? I posted one in the last hour. 2 journalists that were actually in the court. Journalists, not tommys mate.

One thing I have to say I love about Tommys fanboys or as I'm calling them now 'Tommys Tits' . There blindness to reality is fascinating. Like we've a lad posting infowars and still whining why he isn't being taken seriously. Another poster claiming MSM have not reported on Tommy, yet from a quick google. I can't notice a big British who hasn't.

Grayson

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Info Wars is not a news outlet. It's an entertainment show. Alex Jones is not a journalist. He is an actor. The reason he appears to scoop actual news sources is because they verify their sources.

He's a salesman for "nutrition" supplements.

Captain Obvious

Snake Plisken wrote: »

Would you trust a judge that laughs at you while you are bing arrested to, give you a fair hearing and sentence? I for one wouldn’t!

If I did something stupid and illegal in front of a judge my reaction would be "I'm ****ed now" not "This is an unfair trial". You think some distant photo of a judge possibly smiling is an issue by all means make that claim but the judge you make it to will probably laugh at you. They are allowed react to things you know.

wes

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

He was fired from Rebel Media.

Ah ok got that wrong. Thanks for the clarification.

wes

thebull85 wrote: »

Why are you so annoyed?

Not really annoyed, just not a fan of infowars for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Grayson

wes wrote: »

Not really annoyed, just not a fan of infowars for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Yeah, Infowars is wrong about so much stuff that even if Alex Jones was right about something you can't can't use him as a source.

terryduff12

A few Muslims true there must be only a few bad apples, Muslims can do as they please in the west, we go over to their countries are our girlfriends allowed to dress as they please are they? What happens if a woman is accused of cheating in this progressive muslim religion brought to court and divorced right of course they are because there's only a tiny tit! majority of them bad or are they brought out and stoned to death. Keep your heads in the sand and blame everyone that try's to bring a highlight to what's happening. For long enough the catholic church were telling the government here what to do same thing seems to be happening in England same cover ups. But everyone is glad to see the Catholic church loosing followers and loving the chance to jump on the band wagon while singing the praises of Islam.

Walter Bishop

What is with these 'it's easier to do things in the West' rants? Surely that's a good thing, that you have more freedom (within reason) to dress and act how you please, than in some medieval ****-hole like Saudi Arabia?

terryduff12

It is a good thing, what's the religion in these countries? What about sharia law only in Saudi Arabia and places like that. Anyone have any ideas where else it is or is that only far right tit nonsense?

weisses

terryduff12 wrote: »

But everyone is glad to see the Catholic church loosing followers and loving the chance to jump on the band wagon while singing the praises of Islam.

The heatwave is having a toll on you I see

weisses

thebull85 wrote: »

Ok.... That doesnt change what he said, im sorry you dont like the source. I havent came on here lied like another poster has claimed. I made a statement and then posted a video. Why are you so annoyed?

Your source

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntWieh7YIgY

terryduff12

weisses wrote: »

The heatwave is having a toll on you I see

Not doing much for you either. Stick your head in the sand it works for most people

Captain Obvious

terryduff12 wrote: »

singing the praises of Islam.

Quote a single post

jmayo

Grayson wrote: »

You brought up colour first.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=107120678

I said the victims were white working class girls.
I never referenced the colour of the groomers and rapists.
I never said anyone was brown, black, pink, etc.
In fact in a couple of the cases some white people, including women, were involved.
I couldn't care less what colour they are, but the fact that other women and girls colluded in this makes me sick.

jmayo wrote: »

Hundreds of perpetrators - child rapists, 90 something percent of them muslims, who have left thousands victims of gang rape and sexual slavery.
And usually the victims are white poor working class young girls.
Now if that isn't racist targeting then what is?

But why were only white girls targeted ?
Is it because they are considered easy meat, they are considered sluts and they are not cared about by the powers that be, nor the dogooders who fall over themselves for some other groups lest they be seen as racist.

Just imagine how long these gangs would have existed if it was muslim girls being abused by some other group ?
The cops would have swooped in within hours of knowing.

Then again muslim girls and women are discriminated and even abused every hour of every day by fellow muslims and shag all is done about it.

But I guess that is multiculturalism. :rolleyes:

Just very recently we had the first case of a mother being charged and found guilty of basically selling her daughter into a forced arranged marriage in Pakistan so maybe there is some hope.

weisses wrote: »

But he is a thicko and a racist ... What part are you not getting ?

He might not sound the most eloquent, might not have a good education, but I would hardly say he is a thicko.
A load of people are always saying look at the racist, but has anyone heard him saying anything about black people, Sikhs, Hindus, Jews in Britain?

Now I am not saying he might not have been racist in the past, but then the question are people capable of change.
He claims he has changed and that was why he left EDL, the very organisation he founded.
How come we can take other people at face value that they have changed, but not him ?
Can we consider Maajid Nawaz to have changed, but not Tommy Robinson?

There are loads of examples of people drastically changing their political and social opinions.
Hell isn't there an adage that states "there is none so zealous as a convert" ?

Robinson as he has said will never be the leader of a new movement because of his past and his upbringing.

But if things keep going the way they are, there will be a leader of a far right movement, they will sound a lot more polished, wont have the prison and loutish baggage and they may well turn out to be pretty dangerous and a step to the worst for all.

See how the US has ended up with the moronic Trump.

terryduff12

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Quote a single post

Quote a post I was talking about this specific thread, I'm talking about everyone that has an issue of someone talking about Islam and being branded a racist. Even a muslim talking about Islam isn't giving the time of day because he'll be branded Far Right.