Tommy Robinson jailed

batgoat

thebull85 wrote: »

And you are only realising this now?

I kinda started realising this when Europe was getting hit with multiple islamic terror attacks.

But its taken 30 football hooligans attacking people for you think we are in worrying times?

hahaha

Get of the bleeding stage will you.

Eh, how about Jo Cox? The murderer was a far right nationalist. She was the first politician assassinated in UK in 30 years. Or how about terrorist Anders Breivik? He's pretty much in line with the political stances of Tommy. You're trying to minimise far right nationalists who are incredibly dangerous and have killed plenty in past few years.

thebull85

FTA69 wrote: »

Yeah and for all the crying about terrorists and paedos the people your mates attacked were working class British and Irish trade unionists; two women were hospitalised.

That’s the core of the people behind this sh*t, women bashing c*nts. Is that the sort of company you want to be in?

Did you not think we were in worrying times when innocent people were getting squashed by trucks in Nice and Berlin and young kids getting blown in up in Manchester? I didnt see you mention it then.

But when something happens to people you know, apparently we are in worrying times only now.

thebull85

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Nobody defends Islamic terrorists though. We disagree on the causes and the solutions but we see it as wrong. We also consider fundamental Islam to be wrong. And I think we all recognize the issues it causes. So why can't you do the same with white nationalism?

Are you likening islamic slaughter of innocent people in Europe to a few slaps getting thrown at a rally yesterday?

Captain Obvious

thebull85 wrote: »

Are you likening islamic slaughter of innocent people in Europe to a few slaps getting thrown at a rally yesterday?

There you go again. Deflecting the point and minimising the actions. All I asked was for you to condemn the violence and ideology of white nationalism.

thebull85

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Nobody defends Islamic terrorists though. We disagree on the causes and the solutions but we see it as wrong. We also consider fundamental Islam to be wrong. And I think we all recognize the issues it causes. So why can't you do the same with white nationalism?

Whenever i see white nationalist terrorism ill come on here and say its wrong ok?

batgoat

thebull85 wrote: »

Did you not think we were in worrying times when innocent people were getting squashed by trucks in Nice and Berlin and young kids getting blown in up in Manchester? I didnt see you mention it then.

But when something happens to people you know, apparently we are in worrying times only now.

How about the gunning down of children and teens by a far right nationalist extremist? You're intent on defending people who are behaving like nazi goons. There's plenty of photos of Sieg Heil gestures from yesterday btw but you ignore this as it suits you to. This is common for Tommy rallies.

thebull85

Captain Obvious wrote: »

There you go again. Deflecting the point and minimising the actions. All I asked was for you to condemn the violence and ideology of white nationalism.

I also think there is a difference between white nationalists and people who dont want to see the demographic drastically changed. Do you see a difference?

thegreengoblin

The state of this wanker. Apparently he's a restaurant owner. Imagine how he treats his staff...

https://twitter.com/SoniaGallegoAJE/status/1018151468925444096

batgoat

thebull85 wrote: »

I also think there is a difference between white nationalists and people who dont want to see the demographic drastically changed. Do you see a difference?

And they bring their goal about by beating people and being rather racist? So far they just sound like hateful thugs.

thebull85

batgoat wrote: »

How about the gunning down of children and teens by a far right nationalist extremist?

Are you really expecting me to say i agree with something like that?

Violence against innocent people is wrong, no matter who it is doing it.

batgoat

thebull85 wrote: »

Are you really expecting me to say i agree with something like that?

Violence against innocent people is wrong, no matter who it is doing it.

You're happily minimising it and ignoring that some pretty far right nationalist attacks have occurred. One of which involved the murder of a British politician.

Captain Obvious

thebull85 wrote: »

Whenever i see white nationalist terrorism ill come on here and say its wrong ok?

That's not what I asked though.

thebull85 wrote: »

I also think there is a difference between white nationalists and people who dont want to see the demographic drastically changed. Do you see a difference?

Not much of one.

FTA69

thebull85 wrote: »

Did you not think we were in worrying times when innocent people were getting squashed by trucks in Nice and Berlin and young kids getting blown in up in Manchester? I didnt see you mention it then.

But when something happens to people you know, apparently we are in worrying times only now.

Obviously I do think the rise in Islamic terrorism is worrying, unlike you I live in a city where it is a problem.

However, if the Tommy brigade are so concerned about the rise of Salafist Islam then why are they attacking trade unionists? And it wasn't "a few slaps" as much as you'd like to trivialise it, it was women getting their ribs broken and women getting glassed in the face.

That's the company you're keeping mate.

thebull85

FTA69 wrote: »

Obviously I do think the rise in Islamic terrorism is worrying, unlike you I live in a city where it is a problem.

However, if the Tommy brigade are so concerned about the rise of Salafist Islam then why are they attacking trade unionists? And it wasn't "a few slaps" as much as you'd like to trivialise it, it was women getting their ribs broken and women getting glassed in the face.

That's the company you're keeping mate.

And have you a source to back up this story about women being glassed and having their ribs broke?

thebull85

Captain Obvious wrote: »

There you go again. Deflecting the point and minimising the actions. All I asked was for you to condemn the violence and ideology of white nationalism.

I condemn white nationalism and violence against innocent people.

batgoat

thebull85 wrote: »

I condemn white nationalism and violence against innocent people.

You're clearly minimising it. You would be singing from the rooftops if Muslims perpetrated what occurred yesterday...

thebull85

batgoat wrote: »

You're clearly minimising it. You would be singing from the rooftops if Muslims perpetrated what occurred yesterday...

What exactly occured yesterday? and provide sources..

Dont link up about the union leader getting attacked ive read it and nowhere does it say anything about women being glassed and having their ribs broke.

thebull85

batgoat wrote: »

And they bring their goal about by beating people and being rather racist? So far they just sound like hateful thugs.

That was a group of 30 im being told, there were around 5 thousand at the march, you're not tarring them all with the same brush are you?

thebull85

Captain Obvious wrote: »

There you go again. Deflecting the point and minimising the actions. All I asked was for you to condemn the violence and ideology of white nationalism.

Captain are you not going to ask FTA69 for a source to back up his story? Or do you only look for sources from people you disagree with?

FTA69

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/fascist-tommy-robinson-supporters-attack-12920784

Also I know Brigid and know she went to the hospital after getting a chair bounced off her, I don't know the woman who was glassed but she was released from hospital yesterday evening which is good. Steve himself gives an account of what happened above in the video.

So why do you think these lads attacked Irish trade unionists? After all they're just normal people who are anti paedo gangs aren't they?

The_Kew_Tour

FTA69 wrote: »

There was another march for Robinson yesterday in central London, around 5,000 people which was significant drop in numbers on the ones previous but still very substantial. Speakers included various right-wing figures from Britain and Europe, the white supremacists of Generation Identity were also present getting clapped and cheered on by the crowds.

More disturbingly, members of the RMT trade union (including good friends of mine) were set upon by a mob of around 30 football hooligan types while in a pub in Westminster. Steve Hedley, the assistant general secretary was glassed in the face and two women were beaten as well, all having to go to hospital. I'd seen a load of scum milling about so myself and others had skipped off via Green Park before it happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/14/police-tell-trump-supporters-not-to-gather-at-us-embassy

This is the real face of these scumbags, for all their moaning about Islamists and paedophiles, the people they chose to attack were trade unionists. This is basically what the far right do - use issues of concern to promote themselves and then violently attack their opponents. We're definitely in worrying times.

The English love a good scuffle. These lads were probably upset at losing to Croatia other night and let their Scummy anger out on innocent people.

The English still have huge problem with the Nationalist Bunch

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote:

The English love a good scuffle. These lads were probably upset at losing to Croatia other night and let their Scummy anger out on innocent people.

Imagine tarring any other race/culture/community with the same brush...

mcmoustache

thegreengoblin wrote: »

The state of this wanker. Apparently he's a restaurant owner. Imagine how he treats his staff...

https://twitter.com/SoniaGallegoAJE/status/1018151468925444096

Ah, now I see where the Gammon thing came from.

The_Kew_Tour

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Imagine tarring any other race/culture/community with the same brush...

But they have a problem. Even the left love a scuffle and are mad for beating. But the Nationalist lads go to extremes and on different level. Been to Rugby League and Boxing matches and seen fights all time, that's before we get to football. It's just a culture over there.

FTA69

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

The English love a good scuffle. These lads were probably upset at losing to Croatia other night and let their Scummy anger out on innocent people.

The English still have huge problem with the Nationalist Bunch

That's it alright mate. A group of forty men travelled all the way around the back of the march, half a kilometre from the FLA demonstration to Westminster station and then launched an attack on RMT trade unionists because they were wound up about Croatia. Sounds entirely plausible alright. Clearly no politics at all behind the targeting of political opponents.

The_Kew_Tour

FTA69 wrote: »

That's it alright mate. A group of forty men travelled all the way around the back of the march, half a kilometre from the FLA demonstration to Westminster station and then launched an attack on RMT trade unionists because they were wound up about Croatia. Sounds entirely plausible alright. Clearly no politics at all behind the targeting of political opponents.

But that's how they roll indeed

Its not just a sheer coincidence that they do that every time they get beat.

They then target innocent victims. It's been like that for 40 years or so. Not changed, and not changing soon.

Stephen15

What are trade unionists doing at a pro immigration event. Surely trade unions should want to prevent mass immigration as it creates a race to the bottom for the ordinary British workers who they claim to represent. Overpaid trade union fat cats who care more about their pay packet than about the workers they represent there's a surprise.

But then again Tommy is a racist as I guess it's racist now to speak the truth about Islam and mass immigration from the third world.

Taytoland

Communists taking a hiding is no bad thing.

batgoat

This thread is doing a fine job at showing the behaviour that Robinson supporters will justify.

FTA69

Taytoland wrote: »

Communists taking a hiding is no bad thing.

Another supporter of women-bashing cowards.

FTA69

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

But that's how they roll indeed

Its not just a sheer coincidence that they do that every time they get beat.

They then target innocent victims. It's been like that for 40 years or so. Not changed, and not changing soon.

This has to do with far right elements violently attacking people they perceive to be political opponents, this has been a hallmark of the far right since time immemorial. A few years ago Tommy's EDL attacked a union office in Liverpool. This has f*ck all to do with football angst and everything to do with bashing the "reds". Wake up.

The_Kew_Tour

When that love Ulster Parade happened here it made main news for few days at least.

You barely see what happened yesterday anywhere because it happens so often.

When Ireland beat England in 1988 Irish business were attacked in London and Birmingham. Same v Germany and even last week Ikea was bashed around after Sweden game.

But it's seen as acceptable in England.

Most these ***** are smelly Scummy ****ers but it's so ingrained into these ***** it's seen as sort of acceptable.

If you see these ***** coming you get out of way and let Police try bash few heads.

Hell even left love scuffle in England just look at the links.

Taytoland

FTA69 wrote: »

Taytoland wrote: »

Communists taking a hiding is no bad thing.

Another supporter of women-bashing cowards.

It's why I don't attend or sign up to any Unions. Full of reds, so I just stay away.

The_Kew_Tour

FTA69 wrote: »

This has to do with far right elements violently attacking people they perceive to be political opponents, this has been a hallmark of the far right since time immemorial. A few years ago Tommy's EDL attacked a union office in Liverpool. This has f*ck all to do with football angst and everything to do with bashing the "reds". Wake up.

Wake up? I was bashed by a White Nationalist myself before cause I was a 'Paddy'. I'm half English I lived about quarter my life in England. I ****ing know what I'm talking about and yes football is central to it for some these scum bags.

super_furry

Taytoland wrote: »

It's why I don't attend or sign up to any Unions. Full of reds, so I just stay away.

Still happy to see women getting beat-up though.

Taytoland

super_furry wrote: »

Taytoland wrote: »

It's why I don't attend or sign up to any Unions. Full of reds, so I just stay away.

Still happy to see women getting beat-up though.

Haven't seen any story on this, just the men would do.

FTA69

Taytoland wrote: »

It's why I don't attend or sign up to any Unions. Full of reds, so I just stay away.

Yeah we all the know the type. Would scab during a strike, sell out his own workmates and condones bashing women.

Typical Loyalist in other words.

FTA69

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Wake up? I was bashed by a White Nationalist myself before cause I was a 'Paddy'. I'm half English I lived about quarter my life in England. I ****ing know what I'm talking about and yes football is central to it for some these scum bags.

Then stop trying to say the reason far right elements attacked trade unionists was a bit of frustration over the football for f*ck’s sake. These people have a program and an agenda, it isn’t some blind rage over the World Cup.

The_Kew_Tour

FTA69 wrote: »

Then stop trying to say the reason far right elements attacked trade unionists was a bit of frustration over the football for f*ck’s sake. These people have a program and an agenda, it isn’t some blind rage over the World Cup.

But it happens far more frequent when they get beat. Statistics from BBC TV prove this. It's not just coincidence.

Not all these blokes support football that was never my point. My point was that it's a rooted ingrained problem with football yobs as well as Nationalist ones but happens more frequent when a football related thing happens.

It's really there in black and white

Taytoland

FTA69 wrote: »

Taytoland wrote: »

It's why I don't attend or sign up to any Unions. Full of reds, so I just stay away.

Yeah we all the know the type. Would scab during a strike, sell out his own workmates and condones bashing women.

Typical Loyalist in other words.

I'm self employed, so no one is my master.

thebull85

FTA69 wrote: »

Yeah we all the know the type. Would scab during a strike, sell out his own workmates and condones bashing women.

Typical Loyalist in other words.

Get the fu*k out of here calling people scabs, so what if they pass a picket, ive done so a few times in my life out of necessity. The need to work to feed my family and keep a roof over their head. I have dealings with unions in this country and they are a bunch of self serving cnuts. All for the employee me hole.

FTA69

thebull85 wrote: »

Get the fu*k out of here calling people scabs, so what if they pass a picket, ive done so a few times in my life out of necessity. The need to work to feed my family and keep a roof over their head. I have dealings with unions in this country and they are a bunch of self serving cnuts. All for the employee me hole.

Anyone crossing a picket is a low scab. Typical of the mindset of the core of Robinson’s supporters; women bashers and scabs. Honestly says it all.

P*ssing and crying about free speech and then trivialising far right scumbags attacking Irish trade unionists for speaking against them. You couldn’t make it up.

thebull85

FTA69 wrote: »

Anyone crossing a picket is a low scab.

You have no clue about whats going on in peoples lives to call them scabs is ridiculous. You're a disgrace.

FTA69

thebull85 wrote: »

You have no clue about whats going on in peoples lives to call them scabs is ridiculous. You're a disgrace.

Better than lending support to women bashers and English far-right hooligans. What a joke like. An Irish fella seal-clapping the type of people that attacked Irish people throughout the 70s and 80s.

batgoat

thebull85 wrote: »

Get the fu*k out of here calling people scabs, so what if they pass a picket, ive done so a few times in my life out of necessity. The need to work to feed my family and keep a roof over their head. I have dealings with unions in this country and they are a bunch of self serving cnuts. All for the employee me hole.

The user justified attacking members of a union.... You're really prioritising the issues at hand, aren't you? You seem far less concerned by the violent attacks. The blocking of a bus by protesters because the driver was wearing a head scarf.

thebull85 wrote: »

You have no clue about whats going on in peoples lives to call them scabs is ridiculous. You're a disgrace.

Wouldn't you agree that the other user is in fact a disgrace for his justification of attacks?

FingerDeKat

batgoat wrote: »

This thread is doing a fine job at showing the behaviour that Robinson supporters will justify.

In fairness they are just islamophobic cockroaches that like telling scary stories while they circle jerk...not surprised they are also liked by orange kunts as well.

thebull85

FTA69 wrote: »

Better than lending support to women bashers and English far-right hooligans. What a joke like. An Irish fella seal-clapping the type of people that attacked Irish people throughout the 70s and 80s.

Where did i lend support to women bashers and far right hooligans? You're the joke here mate. Did you find a source yet for the glassing of a woman?

Full of s*ite typical union man.

Billy Mays

FTA69 wrote: »

Better than lending support to women bashers and English far-right hooligans. What a joke like. An Irish fella seal-clapping the type of people that attacked Irish people throughout the 70s and 80s.

Maybe the Irish branch of the Yaxley Lennon fan club are unaware how a lot of Irish people in England were treated by the Yaxley Lennons of their day during the IRA's mainland bombing campaign :rolleyes:

FTA69

thebull85 wrote: »

Where did i lend support to women bashers and far right hooligans? You're the joke here mate. Did you find a source yet for the glassing of a woman?

Full of s*ite typical union man.

Mentions it above in the Daily Record article.

You support Robinson and have expressed support for the marches and the people involved in it. Well this is what they do - attack trade unionists. Despite all the waffle about free speech and paedos and terrorists, yesterday’s targets were Irish trade unionists.

This is the reality of the trend you’re supporting.

thebull85

batgoat wrote: »

The user justified attacking members of a union.... You're really prioritising the issues at hand, aren't you? You seem far less concerned by the violent attacks. The blocking of a bus by protesters because the driver was wearing a head scarf.



Wouldn't you agree that the other user is in fact a disgrace for his justification of attacks?

I justified attacking members of a union???

Where? When?