Tommy Robinson jailed

thebull85

Strabanimal wrote: »

Not really, I just remember my roots. Who should I feel rejected by? No, I am doing great in Belfast thanks.

Sorry, rejected was a poor choice of words, abandoned would be more appropriate.

And im glad you're enjoying Belfast it is your capital city after all.

Strabanimal

thebull85 wrote: »

Sorry, rejected was a poor choice of words, abandoned would be more appropriate.

And im glad you're enjoying Belfast it is your capital city after all.

Abandoned is an outdated term. Sure the southerners are ethnically, genetically and culturally weak people whose main talking point is the North, but at least I live in a place where Tommy Robinson hopefully gets life, the United Kingdom! Why do you care as a foreigner to both of us?

thebull85

Strabanimal wrote: »

Abandoned is an outdated term. Sure the southerners are ethnically, genetically and culturally weak people whose main talking point is the North, but at least I live in a place where Tommy Robinson hopefully gets life, the United Kingdom! Why do you care as a foreigner to both of us?

I think you'll find the majority of southerners couldnt give a flying f**k about the north and why should they? You lot are a bunch of dinosaurs, most of us down here have moved on thankfully.

Strabanimal

thebull85 wrote: »

I think you'll find the majority of southerners couldnt give a flying f**k about the north and why should they? You lot are a bunch of dinosaurs, most of us down here have moved on thankfully.

Yeah but every time I visit a Southern board the North is on the front page.

Glad you moved on to water taxes, homelessness and drug abuse though. High five!

But why not answer my question foreigner? Why do you care about a loyal British citizen like Tommy for? You completely avoided that.

thebull85

Strabanimal wrote: »

Abandoned is an outdated term. Sure the southerners are ethnically, genetically and culturally weak people whose main talking point is the North, but at least I live in a place where Tommy Robinson hopefully gets life, the United Kingdom! Why do you care as a foreigner to both of us?

I also see you deleted your post on the GAA forum where you mentioned being abandoned by the south.. P*ssy.

Banned.

Strabanimal

thebull85 wrote: »

I also see you deleted your post on the GAA forum where you mentioned being abandoned by the south.. P*ssy.

I have never deleted a single post of mine but whatever. Here's the post you're talking about you can try and use for your argument
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057889474&page=65

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thebull85

Strabanimal wrote: »

Yeah but every time I visit a Southern board the North is on the front page.

Glad you moved on to water taxes, homelessness and drug abuse though. High five!

Nothing wrong with paying for water i agree with the charges actually, but last time i checked we didnt have water charges anyway so your point is in invalid.

As for homelessness, we have a housing crisis because of our growing population and lack of building since the crash, the many immigrants coming here to live has also contributed to the crisis. You see, people actually want to come and live in Ireland, i bet there are not many interested in living in belfast.

As for drug abuse, what country doesnt have a problem.

You are in no position to talk bad about another country when your own is barely functional..

Strabanimal

thebull85 wrote: »

You are in no position to talk bad about another country when your own is barely functional..

We just literally came out of a civil war and have lower crime rates than you do. Our community has higher OECD academic results than you do. It all makes sense.

Again though...

Why not answer my question foreigner? Why do you care about a loyal British citizen like Tommy for? You completely avoided that x2.

Yer Da sells Avon

Northbound on the M50 (between J11 and J10), someone has literally sprayed "Free Tommy Robinson" on all three lanes of the road. Disgracefully, they've not only put themselves in danger, but have also endangered the life of whichever Bantersaurus Rex eventually feels compelled to add "in every box of cornflakes" to it.

ohnonotgmail

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Northbound on the M50 (between J11 and J10), someone has literally sprayed "Free Tommy Robinson" on all three lanes of the road.

thats been there at least since his trial.

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Disgracefully, they've not only put themselves in danger, but have also endangered the life of whichever Bantersaurus Rex eventually feels compelled to add "in every box of cornflakes" to it.

That joke was funny when Nelson Mandela was in prison and it is still funny now.

Yer Da sells Avon

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

thats been there at least since his trial.

I hope they have the decency to scrub it off when he's released. I also hope a great big truck comes along...

Billy86

Those Tommy Robinson fans really are fond of criminal activity, aren't they?

Omackeral

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

Northbound on the M50 (between J11 and J10), someone has literally sprayed "Free Tommy Robinson" on all three lanes of the road. Disgracefully, they've not only put themselves in danger, but have also endangered the life of whichever Bantersaurus Rex eventually feels compelled to add "in every box of cornflakes" to it.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

thats been there at least since his trial.

That joke was funny when Nelson Mandela was in prison and it is still funny now.

This exchange has honestly put me in great form. Well done to both of you :pac::pac::pac:

Omackeral

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

I hope they have the decency to scrub it off when he's released. I also hope a great big truck comes along...

Well it is the calling card of the Islamist freaks (as seen in Nice and Sweden) so probably a possibility that you get your wish! Although they tend to target places packed with innocents.

Stephen15

Omackeral wrote: »

Well it is the calling card of the Islamist freaks (as seen in Nice and Sweden) so probably a possibility that you get your wish! Although they tend to target places packed with innocents.

https://youtu.be/kUBXRSK0osI

kubjones

Apparently

Theme of this thread. Lot of accusation, no evidence.

ohnonotgmail

kubjones wrote: »

Theme of this thread. Lot of accusation, no evidence.

Evidence of what? He plead guilty.

Grayson

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

thats been there at least since his trial.



That joke was funny when Nelson Mandela was in prison and it is still funny now.

I really, really want to spray that now.

kubjones

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Evidence of what? He plead guilty.

Not about his reporting outside the courthouse.

More so the "quotes" that he has said, the calls of racism, a lot of little nuggets of truth littered with accusations with no basis.

Not a big fan of the guy, but I know a lot about him through an acquaintance that works quite closely with him.

He's none of most of what people claim him to be. What he's doing is important, despite the fact I disagree with the direction he plans on following. It's important for people to know about just how bad things are getting over in the UK.

Grayson

kubjones wrote: »

Not about his reporting outside the courthouse.

More so the "quotes" that he has said, the calls of racism, a lot of little nuggets of truth littered with accusations with no basis.

Not a big fan of the guy, but I know a lot about him through an acquaintance that works quite closely with him.

He's none of most of what people claim him to be. What he's doing is important, despite the fact I disagree with the direction he plans on following. It's important for people to know about just how bad things are getting over in the UK.

I find it amazing how many people who't say they support him but will defend him. It's like they're semi closeted racists.

The Backwards Man

Tommy Robinson is a bit like Bros in the 80s. Nobody admitted being a fan, but a lot had the posters up in their bedroom wall. What are you embarrassed about? If you love him come straight out with it.

nthclare

Grayson wrote: »

I find it amazing how many people who't say they support him but will defend him. It's like they're semi closeted racists.

So if a neighbour of yours was a racist and got a heart attack, would you not help him or her for fear of being branded a closet racists.

There's a lot of different ways of supporting people, just because someone supports someone it doesn't mean they share their views. ...

Billy86

kubjones wrote: »

Not about his reporting outside the courthouse.

More so the "quotes" that he has said, the calls of racism, a lot of little nuggets of truth littered with accusations with no basis.

Not a big fan of the guy, but I know a lot about him through an acquaintance that works quite closely with him.

He's none of most of what people claim him to be. What he's doing is important, despite the fact I disagree with the direction he plans on following. It's important for people to know about just how bad things are getting over in the UK.

Can you ask your mate why Tommy robinson/Stephen Yaxley-Lennon doesn't want to pay any attention to the number of pedophiles in the EDL that he previously founded?

kubjones

Grayson wrote: »

I find it amazing how many people who't say they support him but will defend him. It's like they're semi closeted racists.

"Your opinion is diffidernt du my opinuern. Yer racist."

I agreed with a lot of what Nelson Mandela has to say.

Not a fan of putting tires around political prisoners and setting them on fire though.

Mad that you can both agree with something somebody has to say, while not agreeing with their practices.

WinnyThePoo

kubjones wrote: »

Not about his reporting outside the courthouse.

More so the "quotes" that he has said, the calls of racism, a lot of little nuggets of truth littered with accusations with no basis.

Not a big fan of the guy, but I know a lot about him through an acquaintance that works quite closely with him.

He's none of most of what people claim him to be. What he's doing is important, despite the fact I disagree with the direction he plans on following. It's important for people to know about just how bad things are getting over in the UK.

He got arrested for violating his suspended sentence. He pleaded guilty.

The Backwards Man

nthclare wrote: »

So if a neighbour of yours was a racist and got a heart attack, would you not help him or her for fear of being branded a closet racists.

There's a lot of different ways of supporting people, just because someone supports someone it doesn't mean they share their views. ...

Most of us are secure enough in our own skin that we don't give two fcuks what some eejits think we are or aren't.

Tommy's (non) fans seem particularly precious for some reason.

kubjones

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Most of us are secure enough in our own skin that we don't give two fcuks what some eejits think we are or aren't.

Tommy's (non) fans seem particularly precious for some reason.

Sounds like something a racist would say.

Captain Obvious

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

He got arrested for violating his suspended sentence. He pleaded guilty.

he also committed to violation in front of the judge and videod it.

ohnonotgmail

kubjones wrote: »

"Your opinion is diffidernt du my opinuern. Yer racist."

I agreed with a lot of what Nelson Mandela has to say.

Not a fan of putting tires around political prisoners and setting them on fire though.

Mad that you can both agree with something somebody has to say, while not agreeing with their practices.

While mandela was guilty of many crimes in his life setting political prisoners on fire was not one of them. That is his wife you are thinking of.

FTA69

Billy86 wrote: »

Can you ask your mate why Tommy robinson/Stephen Yaxley-Lennon doesn't want to pay any attention to the number of pedophiles in the EDL that he previously founded?

Because he doesn't care about the victims of abuse, he's using the issue as a convenient springboard to expand the rise of the European far-right into British politics and he's doing a handy job of it. If he genuinely cared about victims he wouldn't be trying to jeopardise the conviction of their abusers and wreck their anonymity so he could plaster himself all over Facebook. The amount of nonces involved in the British far-right, including organisations he was a part of or led - and close associates of his - is actually pretty high.

Omackeral

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Tommy Robinson is a bit like Bros in the 80s. Nobody admitted being a fan, but a lot had the posters up in their bedroom wall. What are you embarrassed about? If you love him come straight out with it.

You don't have to love him and you don't have to hate him. You shaming someone into choosing is what has people going against the left nowadays. If you're not A, you're automatically B. Fcuk off with that. You can agree with some things people say without thinking the sun shines out of their arse. Shades of grey exist.

Captain Obvious

Omackeral wrote: »

You don't have to love him and you don't have to hate him. You shaming someone into choosing is what has people going against the left nowadays. If you're not A, you're automatically B. Fcuk off with that. You can agree with some things people say without thinking the sun shines out of their arse. Shades of grey exist.

He supported a child molester in his own group and tried to damage cases against child molesters. I think it's fair to call anyone who supports him whatever you want on that basis alone.

Omackeral

Captain Obvious wrote: »

He supported a child molester in his own group and tried to damage cases against child molesters. I think it's fair to call anyone who supports him whatever you want on that basis alone.

Everything he's ever said is null and void is it? Issues that have been raised are rendered irrelevant because of other factors? Separate the person from the points that are being made or just ignore them, whichever. Point is, dickheads can make sense from time to time whether you like them or not.

Captain Obvious

Omackeral wrote: »

Everything he's ever said is null and void is it? Issues that have been raised are rendered irrelevant because of other factors? Separate the person from the points that are being made or just ignore them, whichever. Point is, dickheads can make sense from time to time whether you like them or not.

True, but with people like Robinson, only by getting lucky.

Chris_Heilong

Hopefully the Britain he is fighting for is the one that will emerge in the next 50 years, where people of all colours have shared values, a respect for freedom of Speech and believe themselves to be British first as opposed to an Islamic state of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ruled by backwards sharia law, that is not a neighbour I would want next to me.

Captain Obvious

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Hopefully the Britain he is fighting for is the one that will emerge in the next 50 years, where people of all colours have shared values, a respect for freedom of Speech and believe themselves to be British first as opposed to an Islamic state of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ruled by backwards sharia law, that is not a neighbour I would want next to me.

Unclear if satire.

TomSweeney

If Tommy Robinson is such a racist why doesn't he speak out against Sikhs ?

The Backwards Man

Omackeral wrote: »

You don't have to love him and you don't have to hate him. You shaming someone into choosing is what has people going against the left nowadays. If you're not A, you're automatically B. Fcuk off with that. You can agree with some things people say without thinking the sun shines out of their arse. Shades of grey exist.

Do you not see what you're at yourself, labelling anyone that despises the paedophile loving convicted fraudster as part of the 'left'?

I'm not shaming anyone into anything. I'm not getting het up over someone else thinking I may or may not be a Yaxley Lennon supporter. You don't have to tell me that nothing is ever black or white.

Why are the self proclaimed 'right' so insecure about what others think of them?

Billy86

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Unclear if satire.

Hopefully it is, but sure with the number if extremists in this thread who knows at this point.

Omackeral

Captain Obvious wrote: »

True, but with people like Robinson, only by getting lucky.

What does that even mean?

Omackeral

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Do you not see what you're at yourself, labelling anyone that despises the paedophile loving convicted fraudster as part of the 'left'?

I'm not shaming anyone into anything. I'm not getting het up over someone else thinking I may or may not be a Yaxley Lennon supporter. You don't have to tell me that nothing is ever black or white.

Why are the self proclaimed 'right' so insecure about what others think of them?

I'm not on the "right" but I do find myself drifting ever further away from the left thanks to all or nothing types.

Omackeral

TomSweeney wrote: »

If Tommy Robinson is such a racist why doesn't he speak out against Sikhs ?

They're not a race. Neither are Muslims but there ya have it.

The_Kew_Tour

Robinson scumbag behaviour in past is why so many hate him.

It's hard to defend a man who broken law so many times

Omackeral

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Robinson scumbag behaviour in past is why so many hate him.

It's hard to defend a man who broken law so many times

He is a scrote. Not denying that. Still has some points. That's not defending the man, as such.

The_Kew_Tour

Omackeral wrote: »

He is a scrote. Not denying that. Still has some points. That's not defending the man, as such.

I do too to a degree but I just don't feel sympathy when he preaches something and then on other hand breaks the law in other ways.

ohnonotgmail

Omackeral wrote: »

I'm not on the "right" but I do find myself drifting ever further away from the left thanks to all or nothing types.

LOL

FTA69

I don't think criticising Islam or even Muslims is racist per se, but it can very much overlap with racism and xenophobia too. That having been said, blanketly portraying all Muslims as being inherently dangerous, or disloyal or as Robinson said about people in a residential area - "enemy combatants" - is bigoted and it's a form of scapegoating. Especially when it's tied into a wider pan-European far right that's also holds those views toward people like trade unionists, immigrants, Africans etc etc.

As I've said in this thread a million times, you aren't going to find videos of Robinson calling people n*ggers and the like but you will find that he has either been in or been extremely close to and allied to organisations that are unashamedly and explicitly racist in their politics. Over a 14 year period he has been a member of the EDL, the BNP, the BFP which has espoused or contained people with extreme racist politics and is also great mates with Generation Identity who are proper biological blood and soil racists. I saw them last Saturday, being clapped and cheered as they marched.

So is Robinson a neo-Nazi? No he isn't. But is he someone on the European far right pushing an ultra-nationalist, bigoted and exclusionary type of politics based on scapegoating? Yes he is. This isn't solely about anger over terrorists and paedos here.

Billy86

Omackeral wrote: »

I'm not on the "right" but I do find myself drifting ever further away from the left thanks to all or nothing types.

Sorry but that excuse is utter tripe when you've got the likes of Tommy Robinson and his EDL buddies, Le Pen and the whole identitiarian movement that most modern right wing politics are based on, the outright proud neo Nazism of the alt-right and the fascist cult that is Trumpism on the other end.

If you're going to try and paint sides by their furthest elements, then that is what represents 'the right'.

The Legend Of Kira

This is a recently written opinion article about political correctness & populism , its accessment about Tommy Robinson is spot on.

" The largest abuse of British girls in modern history; cowardice prevailed over human rights, political correctness over reasoned discourse. The similarities of censorship and fear with the Soviet era are alarming to those acquainted with this part of twentieth-century history. In an environment of fear and retribution, the most heinous crimes will be ignored and the most intolerant acts will be tolerated.

In the case of this particular scandal, anti-Islam activist Tommy Robinson has filled the void. You can learn more about Tommy’s story from his speech at the Oxford Union. This working-class lad from Luton in the United Kingdom has over 900,000 Facebook followers. This is more than the British Prime Minister, Theresa May. He is currently serving a 13-month prison sentence for being in contempt of court. He pleaded guilty to filming outside court during a grooming gang trial, while already on a suspended sentence for the same offence.

Tommy founded the English Defence League (EDL) street-protest movement in 2009, leaving the organisation in 2013. These days he creates and distributes videos and social media posts that he believes expose the dangers of Islamisation in Britain. His particular focus from the beginning of the EDL up to the present day has been grooming gangs. Some say his content suggests all Muslims engage in this behaviour and is therefore extremely divisive. Others say he is quite simply a racist, a fascist, Islamophobic or alt-Right.

Whatever you deem him to be, I’ll leave to your personal judgement. However, the issue at hand here is, why has Tommy Robinson become so popular? Why does he have a larger social media following than the British Prime Minister? Like many populists, he has been willing to talk about a deeply controversial issue that traditional mainstream outlets plainly refuse to talk about. He’s not the only populist to surge in popularity in this manner. He’s certainly not the first, and certainly won’t be the last.

It’s surreal to witness a panel of social commentators sitting around a table trying to ascertain why these movements grow, looking dumbfounded, all the while abiding by the tacit rule that the issues enabling these movements to grow in the first place cannot be spoken of. In the case of Tommy Robinson, it is pre-eminently the grooming gang epidemic. As has been made clear in this article, the intricacies of the grooming gang scandal simply cannot be spoken of, unless you wish to end up at the jobcentre the next day."

https://kieronattenborough.com/2018/07/18/populism-if-filling-the-void-created-by-political-correctness/

ricero

Tommy is a free man this morning !