Tommy Robinson jailed

rgossip30

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What’s the bbc?

Is that an attempt at humour .

El_Duderino 09

rgossip30 wrote: »

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What’s the bbc?

Is that an attempt at humour .

No. You said “it’s the bbc at present and I asked what is the bbc at present? What were you talking about?

The Highwayman

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

No. You said “it’s the bbc at present and I asked what is the bbc at present? What were you talking about?

TR is the subject of a BBC Panorama investigation. It turns out when the BBC were starting their research they reached out to different people who had worked with him or knew him in some way. From what I understand some woman who the BBC contacted told Tommy. So Tommy and this woman and I'm guessing others started a reverse investigation on the BBC, secret cameras, microphones etc.

There are a few teaser clips on you tube and to be honest John Seeeny could be in trouble. He's shown running up outrageous bills at lunch with TV licence payers money
Filmed making some very elitist and classless snobbery remarks about working class people.
Then he admits to leering at some Iranian woman.

There are many people over the last few years who have lost their jobs for much less however this is the BBC so nobody is talking about It.

He said there is a whole documentary of stuff and he's going to show it some date this month.

The stuff shown does show John Sweeney in a very bad light but the full show will have to have a lot more to get any traction with MSM.

rgossip30

The Highwayman wrote: »

TR is the subject of a BBC Panorama investigation. It turns out when the BBC were starting their research they reached out to different people who had worked with him or knew him in some way. From what I understand some woman who the BBC contacted told Tommy. So Tommy and this woman and I'm guessing others started a reverse investigation on the BBC, secret cameras, microphones etc.

There are a few teaser clips on you tube and to be honest John Seeeny could be in trouble. He's shown running up outrageous bills at lunch with TV licence payers money
Filmed making some very elitist and classless snobbery remarks about working class people.
Then he admits to leering at some Iranian woman.

There are many people over the last few years who have lost their jobs for much less however this is the BBC so nobody is talking about It.

He said there is a whole documentary of stuff and he's going to show it some date this month.
The stuff shown does show John Sweeney in a very bad light but the full show will have to have a lot more to get any traction with MSM.

The full video is to be screened outside the BBC in Manchester this Saturday.There was also a slur that John Sweeney had Irish connections !

Cienciano

The Highwayman wrote: »

TR is the subject of a BBC Panorama investigation. It turns out when the BBC were starting their research they reached out to different people who had worked with him or knew him in some way. From what I understand some woman who the BBC contacted told Tommy. So Tommy and this woman and I'm guessing others started a reverse investigation on the BBC, secret cameras, microphones etc.

There are a few teaser clips on you tube and to be honest John Seeeny could be in trouble. He's shown running up outrageous bills at lunch with TV licence payers money
Filmed making some very elitist and classless snobbery remarks about working class people.
Then he admits to leering at some Iranian woman.

There are many people over the last few years who have lost their jobs for much less however this is the BBC so nobody is talking about It.

He said there is a whole documentary of stuff and he's going to show it some date this month.

The stuff shown does show John Sweeney in a very bad light but the full show will have to have a lot more to get any traction with MSM.

The video is terrible. At the moment we get Tommy and John face to face discussing hidden camera footage of John Sweeney saying something. Footage is played, Tommy shouts, John Sweeney tries to explain it, but once 2 words are out Tommy shouts over him telling him what he meant and what he thinks which is obviously wrong. Then next clip is played, repeat the process.

El_Duderino 09

The Highwayman wrote: »

TR is the subject of a BBC Panorama investigation. It turns out when the BBC were starting their research they reached out to different people who had worked with him or knew him in some way. From what I understand some woman who the BBC contacted told Tommy. So Tommy and this woman and I'm guessing others started a reverse investigation on the BBC, secret cameras, microphones etc.

There are a few teaser clips on you tube and to be honest John Seeeny could be in trouble. He's shown running up outrageous bills at lunch with TV licence payers money
Filmed making some very elitist and classless snobbery remarks about working class people.
Then he admits to leering at some Iranian woman.

There are many people over the last few years who have lost their jobs for much less however this is the BBC so nobody is talking about It.

He said there is a whole documentary of stuff and he's going to show it some date this month.

The stuff shown does show John Sweeney in a very bad light but the full show will have to have a lot more to get any traction with MSM.

Ah that’s interesting. Is the point that John sweeny and TR should pay for his behaviour or that making racial/classist slurs is grand and neither should be scrutinised?

moonage

Grayson wrote: »

I have to say, the list of convicted paedophiles in the EDL from a few pages back is shocking.

I wonder what percentage that amounts to.

The Muslim rape gangs in the UK were highly organised and abused ten of thousands of children over decades.

There's no reason to believe that any paedo activity in the EDL was organised or that it's at a rate higher than in the general population.

Here's an insighful video about why they (politicians, mainstream media, "the chattering classes") hate Tommy Robinson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaA4ItP_9A

ancapailldorcha

There's every reason to believe that the EDL has a paedophilia problem. Billy86 posted a catalogue of links above that your video almost certainly won't address. I'm not going to watch it as there's no indication you have.

ohnonotgmail

why is it always videos with Tommy fans? Have they heard of autocorrect?

Grayson

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why is it always videos with Tommy fans? Have they heard of autocorrect?

And they're very recultant to actually explain what's in a video.

So why shouldn't i do the same.

here's a video of a comedian talking to a load of EDL supporters. The supporters in general are some of the dumbest people you could meet

There's one great bit where one guy says that they need more terrorist attacks to get people to dislike muslims more.

BBFAN

Grayson wrote: »

And they're very recultant to actually explain what's in a video.

So why shouldn't i do the same.

here's a video of a comedian talking to a load of EDL supporters. The supporters in general are some of the dumbest people you could meet

There's one great bit where one guy says that they need more terrorist attacks to get people to dislike muslims more.

That's an excellent video, everyone on this thread should watch it. Doubt they will though.

El_Duderino 09

What’s the appeal to TR from his supporters point of view? What do you like about him?

Billy86

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What’s the appeal to TR from his supporters point of view? What do you like about him?

That he shouts about Muslims is really the only option left here. Couldn't be that he tries to expose pedophilia, as he hasn't actually been the one to break any big stories, and if that is what he was trying to do he would be going after them many, many pedos in the EDL which he helped found and would still have plenty of contact for/info about.

The problem, you see, if that they are white, British, non Muslim and largely an ickle bit racist. Tommy doesn't want to mess with this, as it is his key demographic, and the deafening silence of TR supporters in here on pedophilia in the EDL or his lack of action on it more or less proves that.

If it was about the kids they would be horrified about what goes on in the edl that Tommy Robinson founded. But they are not because it is not.

ohnonotgmail

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What’s the appeal to TR from his supporters point of view? What do you like about him?

he reinforces their own prejudices

Danzy

Suppose he is a working class man giving a working class perspective.

That it unpopular with the establishment and middle class probably adds to his appeal to them.

Talking about taboo issues always will get some followers.

Odhinn

Danzy wrote: »

Suppose he is a working class man giving a working class perspective.

That it unpopular with the establishment and middle class probably adds to his appeal to them.

Talking about taboo issues always will get some followers.

I'm "working class" and have no time at all for his shite

BBFAN

Danzy wrote: »

Suppose he is a working class man giving a working class perspective.

That it unpopular with the establishment and middle class probably adds to his appeal to them.

Talking about taboo issues always will get some followers.

So all working class people blame their troubles on "brown" people? Think you're theory is flawed very badly there. :rolleyes:

BBFAN

Odhinn wrote: »

I'm "working class" and have no time at all for his shite

I'm working class and think he's the greatest prick of our time.

ancapailldorcha

He's not really typical of the working classes to be honest. His stepdad was a plumber which, back in the day meant a very nice lifestyle. Then there are his multiple convictions for assault and fraud. Finally, how many working class people have been involved with as many media outlets as Yaxley-Lennon has?

Speaking as a working class man, he disgusts me. He pretends to represent the working class when all he's done is exploit the abuse of children to profit from morons and bigots.

Billy86

Danzy wrote: »

Suppose he is a working class man giving a working class perspective.

That it unpopular with the establishment and middle class probably adds to his appeal to them.

Talking about taboo issues always will get some followers.

So why isn't he talking about the taboo issue of pedophiles in the EDL which he helped create (along with yet another pedophile, Richard Price)?

That's a group he has huge numbers of contacts with and info on, so why in your opinion is he in the least bit interested in it?

donkeykong5

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

moonage

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What’s the appeal to TR from his supporters point of view? What do you like about him?

I admire his bravery in sticking to his beliefs despite the persecution he has received from the state.

They want to shut him up and have repeatadly harrassed him and imprisoned him on flimsy grounds, with many spells of solitary confinement. Most people would have given in early on but TR has the courage of his convictions and doesn't let the bastards grind him down. He acknowledges that there's a good chance he will be killed in prison, yet he carries on.

Until TR I thought there was freedom of speech in the UK but the way he's being treated is more like Stalinist Russia in the 1930s.

As to his views on Islam, I largely agree with them and can understand how he came to them, given his upbringing in Luton.

ohnonotgmail

donkeykong5 wrote: »

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why is it always videos with Tommy fans? Have they heard of autocorrect?

A song?? jesus. I'll stick to leonard cohen.

kowloon

Grayson wrote: »

here's a video of a comedian talking to a load of EDL supporters. The supporters in general are some of the dumbest people you could meet

Watched the video, and while they do look like a bunch of football hooligans the ending seems a little suspicious. It's dishonest buttering the guy up off camera and playing nice until you have enough footage. I think you need to be completely square with these people or you only lend credence to their 'biased liberal media' claims.

ancapailldorcha

donkeykong5 wrote: »

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

Insisting that other people go research your argument for you means you don't have one in my experience.

JupiterKid

You know we live in strange times when gay men - a writer of gay pulp erotia among them - openly declare their support for Tommy Robinson and his EDL thugs.

Billy86

moonage wrote: »

I admire his bravery in sticking to his beliefs despite the persecution he has received from the state..

What beliefs are these though? It's not protecting children from pedophiles or else he would be exposing the litany of pedophiles in the EDL where he has so many contacts. Yet instead of doing that, he just ignores it - which is at least better than when he was defending them as innocent and "stitched up".

So what are Tommy Robinsons beliefs that he stands for and sticks to?

AllForIt

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What do you like about him?

I think he's rather hot and I like his haircuts.

donkeykong5

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

Insisting that other people go research your argument for you means you don't have one in my experience.

If I could share it on the thread I would. But I'm not that great on the internet . Maybe you could put it up. So everyone could see the true story of Tommy Robinson. !

GinAndBitter

donkeykong5 wrote: »

If I could share it on the thread I would. But I'm not that great on the internet . Maybe you could put it up. So everyone could see the true story of Tommy Robinson. !

I don't know your obsession is with that particular video but it's not going to win him any fans here.

There's a lot more to the whole story than one video of a protest.

ancapailldorcha

donkeykong5 wrote: »

If I could share it on the thread I would. But I'm not that great on the internet . Maybe you could put it up. So everyone could see the true story of Tommy Robinson. !

I'm not rooting around the internet for something you can't be bothered to post.

moonage

Billy86 wrote: »

So what are Tommy Robinsons beliefs that he stands for and sticks to?

He believes Islam is a bad ideology and is not compatible with liberal western democracy.

He believes that because the authorities don't want to be labeled racist, Muslims who commit wrongdoings aren't dealt with in the same way as non-Muslims.

He believes freedom of expression in the UK is being eroded and the UK is turning into a police state.

El_Duderino 09

donkeykong5 wrote: »

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

How about you put it in your own words. I’m genuinely curious to know what his supporters think he represents.

El_Duderino 09

moonage wrote: »

I admire his bravery in sticking to his beliefs despite the persecution he has received from the state.

They want to shut him up and have repeatadly harrassed him and imprisoned him on flimsy grounds, with many spells of solitary confinement. Most people would have given in early on but TR has the courage of his convictions and doesn't let the bastards grind him down. He acknowledges that there's a good chance he will be killed in prison, yet he carries on.

Couldn’t you say the same of anyone who breaks the law and doesn’t stop?

moonage wrote: »

Until TR I thought there was freedom of speech in the UK but the way he's being treated is more like Stalinist Russia in the 1930s.

Surely you heard of lots of Muslim “hate preachers” who have been "persecuted" by the law. Abu Hamsa was one example.

moonage wrote: »

As to his views on Islam, I largely agree with them and can understand how he came to them, given his upbringing in Luton.

Which of his views on islam do you agree with?

batgoat

moonage wrote: »

I admire his bravery in sticking to his beliefs despite the persecution he has received from the state.

They want to shut him up and have repeatadly harrassed him and imprisoned him on flimsy grounds, with many spells of solitary confinement. Most people would have given in early on but TR has the courage of his convictions and doesn't let the bastards grind him down. He acknowledges that there's a good chance he will be killed in prison, yet he carries on.

Until TR I thought there was freedom of speech in the UK but the way he's being treated is more like Stalinist Russia in the 1930s.

As to his views on Islam, I largely agree with them and can understand how he came to them, given his upbringing in Luton.

I would say he's largely engaged in more harassing than he was victim to.

donkeykong5

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

As I said before in this thread. If you want to see the real Tommy Robinson. Look up the song and video footage by Steve mannix in Australia. Says it all for me anyway. Guy is a legend in my eyes.

How about you put it in your own words. I’m genuinely curious to know what his supporters think he represents.

The song by the guy from the group in Australia that supports him also speaks on my behalf. During the free Tommy March I attended in June there were loads of supporters singing it as well. Its brilliant.

donkeykong5

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

donkeykong5 wrote: »

If I could share it on the thread I would. But I'm not that great on the internet . Maybe you could put it up. So everyone could see the true story of Tommy Robinson. !

I'm not rooting around the internet for something you can't be bothered to post.

You dont have to root. Just Google Steve mannix. Australia. Tommy Robinson song. It comes up immediately. I've shared it numerous times but dont know how to share it to boards.ie

rgossip30

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Couldn’t you say the same of anyone who breaks the law and doesn’t stop?

?

I doubt he is breaking any laws at present as his every move is being watched .I think someone like him exposing the asylum farce and government inaction here would be. no harm.

pjohnson

moonage wrote: »

He believes Islam is a bad ideology and is not compatible with liberal western democracy.

He believes that because the authorities don't want to be labeled racist, Muslims who commit wrongdoings aren't dealt with in the same way as non-Muslims.

He believes freedom of expression in the UK is being eroded and the UK is turning into a police state.

He also believes that brown pedo's are worse than white pedo's. But totally not racist.

moonage

pjohnson wrote: »

He also believes that brown pedo's are worse than white pedo's. But totally not racist.

The difference is that brown paedos (Muslims) were allowed to get away with their abuse for decades because the authorities didn't want to be seen as racist. This enabled the abuse to be carried out in a very highly organised, systematic manner on a massive scale and nothing was done about it.

White paedos, by contrast, were dealt with as the law required and were locked up.

ancapailldorcha

moonage wrote: »

The difference is that brown paedos (Muslims) were allowed to get away with their abuse for decades because the authorities didn't want to be seen as racist. This enabled the abuse to be carried out in a very highly organised, systematic manner on a massive scale and nothing was done about it..

Have you any proof of this?

tritriagain

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Have you any proof of this?

In fairness im no fan of Tommy but this is well documented.

ancapailldorcha

tritriagain wrote: »

In fairness im no fan of Tommy but this is well documented.

He should have no bother finding a source then so.

tritriagain

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9253250/Rochdale-grooming-trial-Police-accused-of-failing-to-investigate-paedophile-gang-for-fear-of-appearing-racist.html

ancapailldorcha

tritriagain wrote: »

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9253250/Rochdale-grooming-trial-Police-accused-of-failing-to-investigate-paedophile-gang-for-fear-of-appearing-racist.html

Complaints to social workers and the police were ignored because they were "petrified of being called racist", former Labour MP for Keighley Ann Cryer said.

Is that it? Some MP decided to shift the blame instead of taking responsibility?

Here's what the Assistant Chief Constable said (in the same link):

Assistant Chief Constable Steve Heywood acknowledged that officers could have dealt with the case "better than we did".

But he denied that the girl's complaints had been "brushed under the carpet" because officers were reluctant to confront the issue of race.

"At the time we did what we thought was best," he said. "We have learned a lot of lessons.

conorhal

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Is that it? Some MP decided to shift the blame instead of taking responsibility?

Here's what the Assistant Chief Constable said (in the same link):

Right so, one person addressing the issue is attempting to shift the blame..



Where as those directly responsible for the failure deny it, and that substanceless denial that flies in the face of an offical report ...you take at face value.



Riiiiiiiiight.... :rolleyes:

Grayson

kowloon wrote: »

Watched the video, and while they do look like a bunch of football hooligans the ending seems a little suspicious. It's dishonest buttering the guy up off camera and playing nice until you have enough footage. I think you need to be completely square with these people or you only lend credence to their 'biased liberal media' claims.

To be fair, the guy was there to listen. There were times he was asked what he thought of the EDL and he was diplomatic. mainly because he was more interested in finding out what they thought rather than trying to tell them what he thinks. And i don't know if any of them were led into saying stuff.

At the end when the comedian was trying not to get the police to arrest the guy, I think that showed a lot. I think the comedian actually liked the EDL guy a bit and was just mystified why he couldn't see the using the n-word or paki was racist.

Grayson

moonage wrote: »

The difference is that brown paedos (Muslims) were allowed to get away with their abuse for decades because the authorities didn't want to be seen as racist. This enabled the abuse to be carried out in a very highly organised, systematic manner on a massive scale and nothing was done about it.

White paedos, by contrast, were dealt with as the law required and were locked up.

Yeah, because priests were locked up as soon as they offended :rolleyes:

Boggles

moonage wrote: »

The difference is that brown paedos (Muslims) were allowed to get away with their abuse for decades because the authorities didn't want to be seen as racist. This enabled the abuse to be carried out in a very highly organised, systematic manner on a massive scale and nothing was done about it.

White paedos, by contrast, were dealt with as the law required and were locked up.

Jesus that is some CT.

It sounds like he has an acute brain injury. Is there a history of sustained drug abuse by an chance?

Billy86

moonage wrote: »

White paedos, by contrast, were dealt with as the law required and were locked up.

Actually, both white and brown ones are alike. We know this because Tommy tries to get the brown ones off scott free by screaming outside the courts resulting in potential mistrials.

And in certain instances, groups of them get away with it for one reason or another. Tommy and his supporters dont seem to bothered about the alleged Westminster pedophile rings either, for one example. Nor do they seem to care even remotely about the high level organised groups in tree Catholic church, despite that being a major and ongoing news story for a good year in the US.