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Tommy Robinson jailed

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Why would there be a mistrial?


    Witness and jury tampering. Prejudicing the jury.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Witness and jury tampering. Prejudicing the jury.

    Where is the witness and jury tampering in the video?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    You just wanted to run your ignorant mouth again.
    Mod note: JohnMc1, don't post in this thread again.


    Buford T. Justice


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Mod note: JohnMc1, don't post in this thread again.


    Buford T. Justice



    Why?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    So your looking for a mistrial?

    Why do you keep asking this bs question?
    Anything else to add.
    Wtf are ya at?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Witness and jury tampering. Prejudicing the jury.

    Never happened, care to post the video?
    Tr streams so people can't post bs. Care to share your info?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Why?
    Mod note: thebull85, don't post in this thread again.


    Buford T. Justice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    Jesus Christ there must be thousands of English girls raped by these bastards.

    This is the society the powers that be in England/the U.K wants, Rees-Mogg's or George Osborne's daughter in prestigious schools and Universities and everybody else's daughters swigging cider down the bus station whilst (step)dad's in Wetherspoons.

    The far right over there barking up the wrong tree and blaming the wrong people as always.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    dd972 wrote: »
    This is the society the powers that be in England/the U.K wants, Rees-Mogg's or George Osborne's daughter in prestigious schools and Universities and everybody else's daughters swigging cider down the bus station whilst (step)dad's in Wetherspoons.

    The far right over there barking up the wrong tree and blaming the wrong people as always.
    I'd love for you to expand on this post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    very interesting synopsis, covers a lot of background

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3PImtnJwAM


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    dd972 wrote: »
    This is the society the powers that be in England/the U.K wants, Rees-Mogg's or George Osborne's daughter in prestigious schools and Universities and everybody else's daughters swigging cider down the bus station whilst (step)dad's in Wetherspoons.

    The far right over there barking up the wrong tree and blaming the wrong people as always.


    It was ever thus. A basic Marxist observation but absolutely valid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    If Tommy Robinson was saying the exact same things about Christianity as he does about Islam the left would be giving him a pat on the back but because its their beloved religion of peace he is crucified.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Mutant z wrote: »
    If Tommy Robinson was saying the exact same things about Christianity as he does about Islam the left would be giving him a pat on the back but because its their beloved religion of peace he is crucified.

    Intentional?! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    The scumbag British authorities would be happy to see TR murdered by Muslim gangs in prison.


  • Site Banned Posts: 218 ✭✭A Pint of Goo


    Mutant z wrote: »
    The scumbag British authorities would be happy to see TR murdered by Muslim gangs in prison.

    Brits worry about Donald Trump when their own nation is turning into dystopian nightmare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 430 ✭✭bubbles o hara


    Mutant z wrote: »
    The scumbag British authorities would be happy to see TR murdered by Muslim gangs in prison.


    And more than a few on Boards would also be happy. Apparently Tommy's the real enemy. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    A sad state of affairs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,553 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Brits worry about Donald Trump when their own nation is turning into dystopian nightmare.

    Not just brits, rest of Europe is more interested in disparaging Trump and feeling superior rather than looking at themselves and wondering why established parties are suffering their worst results in decade, losing to new hard right parties, old nationalist parties who until recently were irrelevant,or having to spend months in negotiation just to form a government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,057 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Sargon speaks about Tommy carefully and what he faces in jail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Sand wrote: »
    You have to hand it to the UK police. They're very good at silencing political dissent. Not so good at protecting British children from grooming gangs.
    Yeah, because letting the accused go free from a mistrial would have been the best outcome. I have no idea why Tommy Robinson's biggest fans seem so intent on sabotaging trials for child abusers, but for some reason they do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,536 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Yeah, because letting the accused go free from a mistrial would have been the best outcome. I have no idea why Tommy Robinson's biggest fans seem so intent on sabotaging trials for child abusers, but for some reason they do.


    we even had somebody post the full list of names of the accused despite the media blackout ordered by the court. It is like they almost want a mistrial. thankfully the mods nuked it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Yeah, because letting the accused go free from a mistrial would have been the best outcome. I have no idea why Tommy Robinson's biggest fans seem so intent on sabotaging trials for child abusers, but for some reason they do.

    Yeah, its bizarre to say the least. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Yaxley-Lennon wants a mistrial, so that his supporters can start some trouble, and for him to make hay out of a situation that he himself caused.

    This thread clearly shows there are plenty of useful idiots, who will don't give a crap about fair trials, or justice for the victims, who will be happy to oblige.

    Honestly, there is something profoundly wrong with a lot of supporters of Yaxley-Lennon.

    I am even seeing some common sense from right wing types elsewhere online, who realize that Robinson is damn idiot and brought his arrest on himself. I guess we mostly have the useful idiots on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    we even had somebody post the full list of names of the accused despite the media blackout ordered by the court. It is like they almost want a mistrial. thankfully the mods nuked it.

    And if a mistrial happened because of something Tommy or his supporters did, it would of course be the governments fault according to some here.

    They remind me of the priest in father ted who rips stuff apart shouting "fecking cowboys!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    we even had somebody post the full list of names of the accused despite the media blackout ordered by the court.

    Really? FFS, ****ing idiots, could not only cause a mistrial, but it could also expose the victims.

    Seriously, there are some god damn bellends on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,536 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    wes wrote: »
    Yeah, its bizarre to say the least. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Yaxley-Lennon wants a mistrial, so that his supporters can start some trouble, and for him to make hay out of a situation that he himself caused.

    This thread clearly shows there are plenty of useful idiots, who will don't give a crap about fair trials, or justice for the victims, who will be happy to oblige.

    Honestly, there is something profoundly wrong with a lot of supporters of Yaxley-Lennon.

    I am even seeing some common sense from right wing types elsewhere online, who realize that Robinson is damn idiot and brought his arrest on himself. I guess we mostly have the useful idiots on here.


    Well he did bring it on himself. One of the conditions of his suspended sentence was that he did not attend court cases and call defendants "pedophiles" while the trial was ongoing. Clearly he cant help himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,212 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    Mutant z wrote: »
    The scumbag British authorities would be happy to see TR murdered by Muslim gangs in prison.

    More likely he'll exit the prison walking funny with an arse like a clown's pocket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Any not Anglo-Saxon.

    But particularly Arabs.

    Why don't you do a bit of research before you post next time.
    Most of the muslim population in Britain are not of Arabic descent but Pakistani and Bangladeshi.
    And you are the ones being racist if you claim all muslims are Arabs.
    To a certain extent In agree with you, but he could do without they look the next Twitter Pakistani jokes and mortgage fraud.

    If a Muslim had the same rapsheet Tommy has, Tommy works be demanding his deportarion on the grounds of immorality.

    Funny then that he seems to be able to talk to such muslims as Maajid Nawaz, an ex muslim extemist who has done jail for his extremist links.
    Hell here is a picture of them together.
    Fooking hell there is even another muslim in the picture as well.

    Hasan-Lennon-Nawaz-and-Carroll.jpg
    Grayson wrote: »
    ...
    Even when it risks identifying the victims? Even when those victims are minors?

    Then why did they show pictures of the Telford, Rotherham, Newcastle grooming gang perpetrators ?

    Usually the ban on naming paedophiles is in the case where they have abused family members.
    Grayson wrote: »
    Others have already posted up racist tweets if his.

    I just saw one Pakistani joke.
    Feckin hell if that is it, then most people sometime have been racist I bet.
    And especially so if you grew up prior to 2000.
    I must say I'm very shocked to read that supporters of Tommy are more interested in ogling at the photos of paedophiles than protecting the identies of their victims. Tommy himself is not like that at all.

    Again with this line.
    In every case of the grooming gangs the perps have had their mugshots plastered all over the papers.
    Not that the Guardian or BBC would be rushing to do so. :rolleyes:
    Odhinn wrote: »
    So it is about race?

    Yes it fooking is because the muslim grooming gangs, predominantly of Pakistani origin, targeted white working class girls.
    Some of them did target Sikhs, but their community soon sorted them out.

    I think it is now gotten to the stage where the white community are going to have to likewise.

    After all the police service and state authorities have refused to do so and if anything targeted the parents of the victims.
    Hell the Telford police chief was quoted as saying the number of victims was being sensationalised.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Maxpfizer


    Yeah, what Robinson did here is beyond simply being idiotic. It was downright reckless and irresponsible.

    He could have potentially caused a mistrial and also could have exposed the victims.

    Both are unacceptable to me and he should be punished for doing what he did and if he's got a suspended sentence from before then what can you do? He's earned the punishment here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Looks like the reporting ban is still in place

    https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/28/tommy-robinson-arrested-7583101/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Rochdale, Rotherham, Newcastle, Bradford, Oxford, Telford and now Leeds.

    BTW there are also ongoing cases being investigated in Stratford, London, Stockton on Tees, Sheffield.

    Hundreds of perpetrators - child rapists, 90 something percent of them muslims, who have left thousands victims of gang rape and sexual slavery.
    And usually the victims are white poor working class young girls.
    Now if that isn't racist targeting then what is?

    And yet the problem for some people is one working class guy from Luton who was a football hooligan, had a dodgy mortgage and likes to film things on his phone. :rolleyes:

    Britain is fooked and by the looks of a fair few of the spanners around here so is Ireland.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    jmayo wrote: »
    And yet the problem for some people is one working class guy from Luton who was a football hooligan, had a dodgy mortgage and likes to jeopardise the trials of these people with complete disregard for their victims getting justice. :rolleyes:
    That's the problem many have with Tommy Robinson - just because someone is attacking the bad guys doesn't automatically make them an infallible good guy. He knew full well before doing it, and during the whole time he was doing it, that this would completely jeopardise the justice system and very possibly lead to the perpetrators being let go free.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    ZeroThreat wrote: »
    More likely he'll exit the prison walking funny with an arse like a clown's pocket.

    Are you saying muslim men are going to rape him in prison? Those lovely people would never do that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    jmayo wrote: »
    Rochdale, Rotherham, Newcastle, Bradford, Oxford, Telford and now Leeds.

    BTW there are also ongoing cases being investigated in Stratford, London, Stockton on Tees, Sheffield.

    Hundreds of perpetrators - child rapists, 90 something percent of them muslims, who have left thousands victims of gang rape and sexual slavery.
    And usually the victims are white poor working class young girls.
    Now if that isn't racist targeting then what is?

    And yet the problem for some people is one working class guy from Luton who was a football hooligan, had a dodgy mortgage and likes to film things on his phone. :rolleyes:

    Britain is fooked and by the looks of a fair few of the spanners around here so is Ireland.

    And just a quick read up there, the verdict was already reached and the prisoners about to be sent anyway, so the mistrial thing seems to be bollocks.

    Plus you can see in the live stream he did that he asked a policeman to film on the street outside the court. He was trying to be careful out anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    jmayo wrote: »
    And yet the problem for some people is one working class guy from Luton who was a football hooligan, had a dodgy mortgage and likes to film things on his phone. :rolleyes:

    Stop this nonsense. Its pathetic. People are rightly pissed off that Yaxley-Lennon, could cause a mistrial, that is the context of the thread and you damn well know it too.

    The accused deserve a fair trial, regardless of what crime there accused of. If there found guilty I hope they have the book thrown at them. Also, the victims deserve justice and a mistrial, will deny them that. Also, they deserve privacy to.

    All of those things don't matter to you, as your more interested in your bull**** politics, because that is all that matters to you. Otherwise, you would like most reasonable people, have an issue with some damn idiot, trying to cause a mistrial, and yes an idiot causing a mistrial is the issue under discussion, and not whatever ever strawman you have constructed to rile yourself up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,325 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    jmayo wrote: »
    Rochdale, Rotherham, Newcastle, Bradford, Oxford, Telford and now Leeds.

    BTW there are also ongoing cases being investigated in Stratford, London, Stockton on Tees, Sheffield.

    Hundreds of perpetrators - child rapists, 90 something percent of them muslims, who have left thousands victims of gang rape and sexual slavery.
    And usually the victims are white poor working class young girls.
    Now if that isn't racist targeting then what is?

    And yet the problem for some people is one working class guy from Luton who was a football hooligan, had a dodgy mortgage and likes to film things on his phone. :rolleyes:

    Britain is fooked and by the looks of a fair few of the spanners around here so is Ireland.

    You're making a straw man argument there.

    No-one here think that what those gangs did was right. No-one thinks they shouldn't be prosecuted. It's just that some of us also happen to think Tommy Robinson is a scumbag prick. And pointing out what those gangs did does not make him less of a prick. It doesn't mean that he didn't break the law. It doesn't excuse him from breaking the law.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    And just a quick read up there, the verdict was already reached and the prisoners about to be sent anyway, so the mistrial thing seems to be bollocks.

    There are a serious of linked trials. So not bollocks, hence his arrest. Ye lads need to up your game ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Billy86 wrote: »
    That's the problem many have with Tommy Robinson - just because someone is attacking the bad guys doesn't automatically make them an infallible good guy. He knew full well before doing it, and during the whole time he was doing it, that this would completely jeopardise the justice system and very possibly lead to the perpetrators being let go free.

    Ehh did he film the victims going into court?
    Did he film and broadcast the scumbag perps going into court ?

    And it wouldn't be the first time the perpetrators were led go free to do their raping.
    After all the authorities in every case so far have been found to have been complicit.
    thebull85 wrote: »
    Are you saying muslim men are going to rape him in prison? Those lovely people would never do that.

    Nah some of those muslim men in jail only like children.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    wes wrote: »
    There are a serious of linked trials. So not bollocks, hence his arrest. Ye lads need to up your game ffs.

    Ok, so take me through this.

    So a trial that was already decided, and was already reported in the local newspaper (outcome) even if was local knowledge at that stage...

    How does that constitute a mistrial? Any information was public-ally known at that stage.

    That's why Tommy did it, he thought he'd get away with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    jmayo wrote: »
    Ehh did he film the victims going into court?
    Did he film and broadcast the scumbag perps going into court ?

    And it wouldn't be the first time the perpetrators were led go free to do their raping.
    After all the authorities in every case so far have been found to have been complicit.
    So your reaction to the fact that he was happy to jeopardise the trial in the name of his own publicity was "yeah, so what"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Ok, so take me through this.

    So a trial that was already decided, and was already reported in the local newspaper (outcome) even if was local knowledge at that stage...

    How does that constitute a mistrial? Any information was public-ally known at that stage.

    That's why Tommy did it, he thought he'd get away with it.

    There are a series of trials. When, there all done, then the restrictions will be lifted, hence why Tommy was arrested. He knew what he was doing and he has no one, but himself to blame. Again, I think he did it in purpose to try and make himself to be some kind of martyr and that is working very well, as the world is full of useful idiots.

    The thing is that the judge thinks there is a danger of a mistrial. Going to go out on a limb and say the judge is in a better place, than internet fanboys to make that judgement.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    I feel for Tommy he is going to be locked up in with as many extemeist Muslims as they can find. Remember the lad who left a bit of bacon at the mosque was beating to death and not a word about it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    The list of names that was posted on here was doing the rounds last week, prior to TR streaming from outside to court. So the "accused" indentitys were already out there. And no mistrial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    thebull85 wrote: »
    The list of names that was posted on here was doing the rounds last week, prior to TR streaming from outside to court. So the "accused" indentitys were already out there. And no mistrial.

    So the idiots managed to not cause a mistrial, so that makes such attempts to do so ok? FFS, lads you need to do better than this. Its really disturbing that your ok with people trying to cause a mistrial, because that is exactly what these idiots are doing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 779 ✭✭✭no.8


    ZeroThreat wrote:
    More likely he'll exit the prison walking funny with an arse like a clown's pocket.

    Fair play for standing by the PC voting table who'd rather slate their own than challenge the status quo. Might be you with funny walk on years to come


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    thebull85 wrote: »
    The list of names that was posted on here was doing the rounds last week, prior to TR streaming from outside to court. So the "accused" indentitys were already out there. And no mistrial.
    Apparently they are filing for a mistrial in the coming days, though we'll know when we know. Given the scale of it, there would also be multiple trials and apparently some are still ongoing. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see a motion for mistrial in the coming days off the back of this, sadly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    wes wrote: »
    So the idiots managed to not cause a mistrial, so that makes such attempts to do so ok? FFS, lads you need to do better than this. Its really disturbing that your ok with people trying to cause a mistrial, because that is exactly what these idiots are doing.
    On the video Tommy said the proceedings for the day were a sentencing hearing not a trial.
    He also mentioned this was one of 3 trials/sentencing for the case, as their were so many, 29 I think people accused, and the third sentencing was due around Sept.
    I'm not defending Tommy's actions but is it known if his arrest was outside a sentencing or Trial proceeding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Apparently they are filing for a mistrial in the coming days, though we'll know when we know. Given the scale of it, there would also be multiple trials and apparently some are still ongoing. I wouldn't be shocked at all to see a motion for mistrial in the coming days off the back of this, sadly.

    If any of the accused are released, Tommy and his fanboys are responsible imo. <snip>

    Mod note:Easy on the rhetoric, please.

    Buford T. Justice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Gerry T wrote: »
    On the video Tommy said the proceedings for the day were a sentencing hearing not a trial.
    He also mentioned this was one of 3 trials/sentencing for the case, as their were so many, 29 I think people accused, and the third sentencing was due around Sept.
    I'm not defending Tommy's actions but is it known if his arrest was outside a sentencing or Trial proceeding.

    Well, the judge would be in a far better place to make a judgement on the matter, than any of us on here. Tommy knew exactly what he was doing and him being aware that it was a series, mean he knew exactly what would happen.

    Some of the accused could be released due to his actions.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    How many people knew about this trial before friday? How many more know now? Millions more.. Job done.

    There will be no mistrial.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    wes wrote: »
    Well, the judge would be in a far better place to make a judgement on the matter, than any of us on here. Tommy knew exactly what he was doing and him being aware that it was a series, mean he knew exactly what would happen.

    Some of the accused could be released due to his actions.

    I'm not defending him, but if it were a sentencing hearing then I can't see how there could be a miss trial as the trial would be over.
    If it was a trial then yes he's a feckin edjit , he knows better than to do what he did.


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