Tommy Robinson jailed

Guy:Incognito

GinAndBitter wrote: »

What's your @ I'll follow you.

No. You're grand. I've no issue with people not wanting their details all over the internet. Just the ones that call others cowards for it then hide themselves.

Boggles

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Well my profile is on private so you won't be able to.

Why, what are you hiding?

Take it off private and link it up.

You're not a "coward" are you?

TomSweeney

GinAndBitter wrote: »

What's your @ I'll follow you.

@TitaniaMcGrath - a non parody version

GinAndBitter

Boggles wrote: »

Why, what are you hiding?

Take it off private and link it up.

You're not a "coward" are you?

I wouldn't call people with their Twitter or Facebook on private cowards at all. Would you?

Timberrrrrrrr

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Well my profile is on private so you won't be able to.

:pac:

mcmoustache

Deleted User wrote: »

I think he is waiting for the video before coming to a conclusion.

I wouldn't be taking the Twitter as gospel as the guy extremely opposes Tommy Robinson.

It will be interesting to see all the facts.

Most sensible people do.

GinAndBitter

mcmoustache wrote: »

Most sensible people do.

The problem there is though just because he opposes Tommy Robinson people are believing every single thing that comes out of his mouth. Without questioning

Guy:Incognito

GinAndBitter wrote: »

I wouldn't call people with their Twitter or Facebook on private cowards at all. Would you?

You called someone with a public profile in their own name a coward who hides behind Twitter.

Timberrrrrrrr

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

You called someone with a public profile in their own name a coward who hides behind Twitter.

The irony seems to be lost on him.

GinAndBitter

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

You called someone with a public profile in their own name a coward who hides behind Twitter.

Yes, this happens all the time an not just online, if you talk **** about people expect to be confronted about it. It's very easy to go online and slate someone but doing it
to their face as we have seen here is a whole different story. So this guy felt safe on Twitter but not in real life.

He doesn't have to balls to back up his online chat in the real world.

Thats the long and short of it.

mcmoustache

GinAndBitter wrote: »

The problem there is though just because he opposes Tommy Robinson people are believing every single thing that comes out of his mouth. Without questioning

But Tommy showing up at his house at 10:30 and 5:30 is not in question. What kind of cnut does that?

GinAndBitter

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The irony seems to be lost on him.

What are you saying timber I'm a coward because I don't have my Twitter account open to the public. You think that's the same as what we've been talking about?

Grayson

GinAndBitter wrote: »

What is this nonsense you are talking? So the reason he didn't answer his door is because he's not a violent nasty thug like Tommy??

No it's because he's a coward. He lives his life through social media. Weird guy.

Care to share your address here? We can all pop round at random times. just for a chat like. I'm taking it that you're not a coward.

Personally I have no desire to have you or anyone else knocking on my door in the middle of the night, but since you seem to think that anyone who doesn't want their information shared online and have people calling to their door is a coward, I'm sure you'll be up for it.

Skylinehead

GinAndBitter wrote: »

if you talk **** about people expect to be confronted about it.

Here's you talking shit about someone:

GinAndBitter wrote: »

it's just shows what a coward he is

When can we expect you to be confronted, anonymous poster?

ohnonotgmail

GinAndBitter wrote: »

The problem there is though just because he opposes Tommy Robinson people are believing every single thing that comes out of his mouth. Without questioning

#well no. they believe him because he has been honest in the past. the same cannot be said of tommy.

GinAndBitter

Grayson wrote: »

Care to share your address here? We can all pop round at random times. just for a chat like. I'm taking it that you're not a coward.

Personally I have no desire to have you or anyone else knocking on my door in the middle of the night, but since you seem to think that anyone who doesn't want their information shared online and have people calling to their door is a coward, I'm sure you'll be up for it.

He deserved a knock on his door, I know a few violent thugs myself and If i talked **** about them online, never mind knocking on my door, my door would kicked off it's hinges and I'd be dragged out. So I don't talk **** about people online especially "violent thugs".

ancapailldorcha

GinAndBitter wrote: »

He deserved a knock on his door, I know a few violent thugs myself and If i talked **** about them online, never mind knocking on my door, my door would kicked off it's hinges and I'd be dragged out. So I don't talk **** about people online especially "violent thugs".

So you're in favour of people being denied their right to free speech in a civilised society. Thanks for clearing that up.

Boggles

GinAndBitter wrote: »

He deserved a knock on his door, I know a few violent thugs myself and If i talked **** about them online, never mind knocking on my door, my door would kicked off it's hinges and I'd be dragged out. So I don't talk **** about people online especially "violent thugs".

You just called someone a "coward", whilst steadfastly hiding behind your anonymity.

You do see there might be a bit of a paradox there?

:P

Grayson

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Yes, this happens all the time an not just online, if you talk **** about people expect to be confronted about it. It's very easy to go online and slate someone but doing it
to their face as we have seen here is a whole different story. So this guy felt safe on Twitter but not in real life.

He doesn't have to balls to back up his online chat in the real world.

Thats the long and short of it.

You'd open the door to a guy like this in the middle of the night?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)#Criminal_convictions

In April 2005, Robinson was convicted of assaulting an off-duty police officer who had intervened to protect Robinson's girlfriend from Robinson.[122][7] He was given a custodial sentence.[122]

In July 2011, at Luton and South Bedfordshire Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of using threatening, abusive or insulting behaviour, for leading a group of Luton Town F.C. supporters into a brawl involving 100 people in Luton on 24 August 2010.[14][123][124]

In September 2011, at Preston Magistrates' Court, Robinson was convicted of assault for headbutting a man in Blackburn on 2 April 2011.[125][31] In November 2011, he was given a 12-week jail term, suspended for 12 months.[126][127]

GinAndBitter

Boggles wrote: »

You just called someone a "coward", whilst steadfastly hiding behind your anonymity.

You do see there might be a bit of a paradox there?

:P

I'll still answer my front door though.

Boom_Bap

GinAndBitter wrote: »

I'll still answer my front door though.

While someone was pounding on it and shouting outside?

GinAndBitter

Grayson wrote: »

You'd open the door to a guy like this in the middle of the night?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)#Criminal_convictions

I wouldn't talk **** about that guy unless I was prepared to face him and do the same.

GinAndBitter

Boom_Bap wrote: »

While someone was pounding on it and shouting outside?

Well it's only Mike Stuchberry we are talking about here so yes, yes I definitely would.

Boggles

GinAndBitter wrote: »

I'll still answer my front door though.

But sure nobody knows who you are.

What exactly are you having trouble understanding here.

You are calling people names with complete anonymity, but yet you think a guy who posts on his own twitter account using his own name is a coward.

By your own definition you are more cowardly.

mcmoustache

GinAndBitter wrote: »

I wouldn't talk **** about that guy unless I was prepared to face him and do the same.

I thought that most people who used the internet had the self awareness not to try to be keyboard warriors. It's been a thing for over 20 years or so.

Boom_Bap

mcmoustache wrote: »

I thought that most people who used the internet had the self awareness not to try to be keyboard warriors. It's been a thing for over 20 years or so.

I think that you are getting keyboard warrior and internet tough guy mixed up :pac:


This of course is just a joke.

GinAndBitter

mcmoustache wrote: »

I thought that most people who used the internet had the self awareness not to try to be keyboard warriors. It's been a thing for over 20 years or so.

What makes you think I'm a keyboard warrior?

mcmoustache

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I think that you are getting keyboard warrior and internet tough guy mixed up :pac:


This of course is just a joke.

In my day, it was keyboard warrior. Then they changed what it was and now what it is isn't it. And what's it seems weird and scary to me.

...to paraphrase Grandpa Simpson.

Grayson

GinAndBitter wrote: »

I wouldn't talk **** about that guy unless I was prepared to face him and do the same.

So you can't criticise anything anyone says online unless you're willing to fight them (if it comes to it)?

I can just imagine Boris and May going head to head.

mcmoustache

GinAndBitter wrote: »

What makes you think I'm a keyboard warrior?

Shíte like this:

I wouldn't talk **** about that guy unless I was prepared to face him and do the same.

It's pretty clear cut, really. I'm sure you won't agree but your agreement or lack of doesn't really come into it anymore than your opinion that Tommy Robinson isn't a thuggish racist hooligan fraudster.

Like Chris Brown or R Kelly, Tommy Robinson will always have fans who'll defend him no matter what he does.

GinAndBitter

Boggles wrote: »

Stephen apparently got handed a letter Sunday stating he is getting sued for defamation. It was delivered during the day, so probably woke him.

Can't wait to here about his "Freedom of Speech" defense, no doubt it will be entertaining.

He was in Finland at the time of the letter being delivered. Hard luck pal try again.

GinAndBitter

mcmoustache wrote: »

Shíte like this:



It's pretty clear cut, really. I'm sure you won't agree but your agreement or lack of doesn't really come into it anymore than your opinion that Tommy Robinson isn't a thuggish racist hooligan fraudster.

Like Chris Brown or R Kelly, Tommy Robinson will always have fans who'll defend him no matter what he does.

keyboard warriors

(informal, derogatory) A person who behaves aggressively and/or in an inflammatory manner in online text-based discussion media, but at the same time does not behave similarly in real life, potentially due to cowardice, introversion or shyness.

90% of boards.ie posters.

mcmoustache

GinAndBitter wrote: »

keyboard warriors

(informal, derogatory) A person who behaves aggressively and/or in an inflammatory manner in online text-based discussion media, but at the same time does not behave similarly in real life, potentially due to cowardice, introversion or shyness.

90% of boards.ie posters.

I think Boom Bap may have been right about me being mixed up. I'll go with "Internet tough guy" instead.

RWCNT

GinAndBitter wrote: »

I wouldn't talk **** about that guy unless I was prepared to face him and do the same.

To be honest, in Mike's situation I probably would have opened my door, but that's because I'm a hothead and can never really back down from confrontation of any kind. It's one of my biggest faults.

What does that achieve? Best case scenario: Tommy & I have a shouting match at my front door, disturbing my neighbours & scaring my wife that things might escalate. Worst case scenario: Things do in fact escalate and I'm in a brawl with a known thug and the gang of thugs he's brought to back him up. What's the upside of either of these situations for me? Nothing, except some bloke on the internet won't be able to infer that I'm scared of Tommy.

Your attitude to this situation is ridiculous. Based on what you've said here, journalists shouldn't write anything exposing gangsters, drug dealers or other violent criminals, unless prepared to open the door to them. Do you think thats conducive to a free press that exposes criminals? If Tommy has a problem with what someone says about him, there are paths of recourse he can take. He can sue for libel or defamation. Instead he chooses to act like the jumped up little thug that anyone with a brain in their head knows he is.

ohnonotgmail

RWCNT wrote: »

To be honest, in Mike's situation I probably would have opened my door, but that's because I'm a hothead and can never really back down from confrontation of any kind. It's one of my biggest faults.

What does that achieve? Best case scenario: Tommy & I have a shouting match at my front door, disturbing my neighbours & scaring my wife that things might escalate. Worst case scenario: Things do in fact escalate and I'm in a brawl with a known thug and the gang of thugs he's brought to back him up. What's the upside of either of these situations for me? Nothing, except some bloke on the internet won't be able to infer that I'm scared of Tommy.

Your attitude to this situation is ridiculous. Based on what you've said here, journalists shouldn't write anything exposing gangsters, drug dealers or other violent criminals, unless prepared to open the door to them. Do you think thats conducive to a free press that exposes criminals? If Tommy has a problem with what someone says about him, there are paths of recourse he can take. He can sue for libel or defamation. Instead he chooses to act like the jumped up little thug that anyone with a brain in their head knows he is.

Unfortunately it is the fact that he is a thug that attracts some posting here.

GinAndBitter

RWCNT wrote: »

To be honest, in Mike's situation I probably would have opened my door, but that's because I'm a hothead and can never really back down from confrontation of any kind. It's one of my biggest faults.

What does that achieve? Best case scenario: Tommy & I have a shouting match at my front door, disturbing my neighbours & scaring my wife that things might escalate. Worst case scenario: Things do in fact escalate and I'm in a brawl with a known thug and the gang of thugs he's brought to back him up. What's the upside of either of these situations for me? Nothing, except some bloke on the internet won't be able to infer that I'm scared of Tommy.

Your attitude to this situation is ridiculous. Based on what you've said here, journalists shouldn't write anything exposing gangsters, drug dealers or other violent criminals, unless prepared to open the door to them. Do you think thats conducive to a free press that exposes criminals? If Tommy has a problem with what someone says about him, there are paths of recourse he can take. He can sue for libel or defamation. Instead he chooses to act like the jumped up little thug that anyone with a brain in their head knows he is.

Yeah well fair play to you, I actually do believe that you would open your door to him , someone will probably be along to call you an internet tough guy though.

This guy lives in Luton, not far from Tommy and Tommy being a hot head like yourself he decided to pay him a visit. Simple as that really no harm was done there was no violence.

Boom_Bap

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Yeah well fair play to you, I actually do believe that you would open your door to him , someone will probably be along to call you an internet tough guy though.

This guy lives in Luton, not far from Tommy and Tommy being a hot head like yourself he decided to pay him a visit. Simple as that really no harm was done there was no violence.

See the thing is, Tommy has a certain way with words that gets people riled up and would goad them into physical assault and the first thing he'll do is shout assault down the camera.
I'd say opening the door is just opening yourself up for Tommy to get you into that state.


Him going there if the door was not opened or opened was a win win situation for him as we can see that the guy in the house is easily painted in a bad light.

Timberrrrrrrr

GinAndBitter wrote: »

What are you saying timber I'm a coward because I don't have my Twitter account open to the public. You think that's the same as what we've been talking about?

It's exactly what I'm saying! You call a man who has his account public a coward, he speaks his mind against cowardly thugs like TR and you say he is a coward!

Meanwhile here's you in all of your finest anonymity defending a cowardly thug from behind a fake name (same as TR).

As i said, the irony is lost on you.

Penn

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Simple as that really no harm was done there was no violence.

...because the guy didn't open the door to him.

Grayson

here's the story about what happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/05/journalist-makes-police-complaint-about-tommy-robinson

GinAndBitter

Grayson wrote: »

here's the story about what happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/05/journalist-makes-police-complaint-about-tommy-robinson

The story according to who?

GinAndBitter

Boom_Bap wrote: »

See the thing is, Tommy has a certain way with words that gets people riled up and would goad them into physical assault and the first thing he'll do is shout assault down the camera.
I'd say opening the door is just opening yourself up for Tommy to get you into that state.


Him going there if the door was not opened or opened was a win win situation for him as we can see that the guy in the house is easily painted in a bad light.

Absolute bolloxology. I'm sorry your honour he goaded me. I must remember that one.

Timberrrrrrrr

Because you post sh/t about people anonymously.

Boom_Bap

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Absolute bolloxology. I'm sorry your honour he goaded me. I must remember that one.

It may be, but that's the type of character he strikes me as.


In his recent documentary thing where the reporter from Panorama starts asking questions, he just starts shouting racist, liar, homophobe at him rather than engaging.
Saying this to an someone at their door after knocking in such an intimidating manor may affect the behaviour of the person answering the door.

Timberrrrrrrr

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Yeah well fair play to you, I actually do believe that you would open your door to him , someone will probably be along to call you an internet tough guy though.

This guy lives in Luton, not far from Tommy and Tommy being a hot head like yourself he decided to pay him a visit. Simple as that really no harm was done there was no violence.

With his mates to back him up? And a camera on the go recording everything? That's not a hot head thats a manipulative coward!

GinAndBitter

Boom_Bap wrote: »

It may be, but that's the type of character he strikes me as.


In his recent documentary thing where the reporter from Panorama starts asking questions, he just starts shouting racist, liar, homophobe at him rather than engaging.

It's ok when the BBC and others are doing that to Tommy though? Anytime he was ever on any show he was shouted down and not allowed have his say. Sweeney got a taste of what that's like.

Boom_Bap

GinAndBitter wrote: »

It's ok when the BBC and others are doing that to Tommy though? Anytime he was ever on any show he was shouted down and not allowed have his say. Sweeney got a taste of what that's like.

So not boloxology then?

ancapailldorcha

GinAndBitter wrote: »

It's ok when the BBC and others are doing that to Tommy though? Anytime he was ever on any show he was shouted down and not allowed have his say. Sweeney got a taste of what that's like.

When did the BBC do that?

GinAndBitter

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

With his mates to back him up? And a camera on the go recording everything? That's not a hot head thats a manipulative coward!

Would you travel alone If Islamic nut jobs wanted to butcher you? I don't think so. As for it being broadcast live I don't see the problem, at least people can see what was happening, the lack of any violence etc

Timberrrrrrrr

GinAndBitter wrote: »

Would you travel alone If Islamic nut jobs wanted to butcher you? I don't think so. As for it being broadcast live I don't see the problem, at least people can see what was happening, the lack of any violence etc

Well according to TR that's exactly what they want to do yet here i am waltzing around on my own not being butchered