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Tommy Robinson jailed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,604 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I wonder if TR will make a big noise about him.

    Joke. Obviously he doesn't care if the pedo isn't brown.

    This pedo got 11 years for his crimes. Not long enough but longer than what some get for similar crimes.
    OK. Like I said. TR won't care because the pedo isn't brown. Surely we can agree on that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 746 ✭✭✭GinAndBitter


    OK. Like I said. TR won't care because the pedo isn't brown. Surely we can agree on that.

    You guys seem fascinated with skin colour.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    OK. Like I said. TR won't care because the pedo isn't brown. Surely we can agree on that.

    I respectfully disagree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,604 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    OK. Like I said. TR won't care because the pedo isn't brown. Surely we can agree on that.

    I respectfully disagree.
    Why?

    Remind me, does he regularly highlight white pedos or just brown pedos?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,604 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    OK. Like I said. TR won't care because the pedo isn't brown. Surely we can agree on that.

    You guys seem fascinated with skin colour.
    Touche. You're playing the game but that was a good one.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,604 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Don't his supporters care about what they're actually seeing. TR using his Thurs national news story this week, with news media publishing the video he made of the incident, and still think he's being shut down by d'meeja.

    Hammering on a bloke's door at 5am to intimidate him to drop a legal case against him and still his supporters will claim he's unfairly treated. I suppose it's got nothing to do with the reality for his people


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Remind me, does he regularly highlight white pedos or just brown pedos?

    He highlighted a worrying fact that police were afraid to act upon paedophelia in the "Asian" community for fears of racism.

    This is akin to you stating that people who highlight clerical abuse of children are ignoring incestuous abuse within families.

    Tommy Robinson has an agenda. That agenda is that there is a disproportionate amount of Muslim child abuse in England. The fact that he doesn't cover every incident is whataboutary.

    White, brown, yellow, green, purple, orange or white abuse is horrific. But it seems to Tommy Robinson in his own personal experience, that Muslim rape gangs are given a certain leeway that whites aren't.

    Yes, it's anecdotal. Yes, a large amount of his supporters are unsavoury. But it doesn't lessen the fact that it happens.

    I, again, don't always agree with Tommy Robinson's methods, but he isn't the bogeyman that he is made out to be.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    White, brown, yellow, green, purple, orange or white abuse is horrific. But it seems to Tommy Robinson in his own personal experience, that Muslim rape gangs are given a certain leeway that whites aren't.

    That particular paragraph could have been framed more succinctly. Im in the pissings of rain at the moment but I hope you all understood what I meant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    He highlighted a worrying fact that police were afraid to act upon paedophelia in the "Asian" community for fears of racism.

    This is akin to you stating that people who highlight clerical abuse of children are ignoring incestuous abuse within families.

    Tommy Robinson has an agenda. That agenda is that there is a disproportionate amount of Muslim child abuse in England. The fact that he doesn't cover every incident is whataboutary.

    White, brown, yellow, green, purple, orange or white abuse is horrific. But it seems to Tommy Robinson in his own personal experience, that Muslim rape gangs are given a certain leeway that whites aren't.

    Yes, it's anecdotal. Yes, a large amount of his supporters are unsavoury. But it doesn't lessen the fact that it happens.

    I, again, don't always agree with Tommy Robinson's methods, but he isn't the bogeyman that he is made out to be.

    only long after others did the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,604 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    He highlighted a worrying fact that police were afraid to act upon paedophelia in the "Asian" community for fears of racism.

    This is akin to you stating that people who highlight clerical abuse of children are ignoring incestuous abuse within families.

    Tommy Robinson has an agenda. That agenda is that there is a disproportionate amount of Muslim child abuse in England. The fact that he doesn't cover every incident is whataboutary.

    White, brown, yellow, green, purple, orange or white abuse is horrific. But it seems to Tommy Robinson in his own personal experience, that Muslim rape gangs are given a certain leeway that whites aren't.

    Yes, it's anecdotal. Yes, a large amount of his supporters are unsavoury. But it doesn't lessen the fact that it happens.

    I, again, don't always agree with Tommy Robinson's methods, but he isn't the bogeyman that he is made out to be.


    Ok so the question I asked is whether TR highlights white pedos. So is that a yes or a no to the question?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭98q76e12hrflnk


    Ok so the question I asked is whether TR highlights white pedos. So is that a yes or a no to the question?

    Where does he highlight the coloured?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,604 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    declan2693 wrote: »
    Where does he highlight the coloured?

    I didn't say he did. I'm asking if he regularly highlights pedos who are white. Does he?

    I get that the point is to be evasive to maintain the idea that he's just against pedos. But surely you don't think it's just coincidence that he only gets excited about pedos who happen to be brown. Do you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭98q76e12hrflnk


    I didn't say he did. I'm asking if he regularly highlights pedos who are white. Does he?

    I get that the point is to be evasive to maintain the idea that he's just against pedos. But surely you don't think it's just coincidence that he only gets excited about pedos who happen to be brown. Do you?

    He doesnt hightlight paedos based on skin colour.
    Why do you constantly bring race into it?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ok so the question I asked is whether TR highlights white pedos. So is that a yes or a no to the question?

    I'll happily answer no. But why do you ask that? Are you calling him a racist because he highlights that non white people are given preferential treatment?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He doesnt hightlight paedos based on skin colour. Why do you constantly bring race into it?


    Paedos are paedos. If they aren't brought to justice by their ethnicity or their religion, then surely there is a problem. Yes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭98q76e12hrflnk


    Paedos are paedos. If they aren't brought to justice by their ethnicity or their religion, then surely there is a problem. Yes?

    Of course. TR highlighted how a large group of paedos from a certain religion were being protected by the police and government and allowed to continue raping children for years for fear of being called a racist.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    declan2693 wrote: »
    Where does he highlight the coloured?


    That thing he got held in contempt for. You should know this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    You guys seem fascinated with skin colour.


    Ah, the old "you're the real racists" trope. It's not new and it's not clever but you do you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭VeryTerry


    Got my first yellow card because of my post in this thread for a comment made at GinAndBitter. I'm assuming she'll make an argument for me to have it rescinded on the grounds of free speech.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    declan2693 wrote: »
    He doesnt hightlight paedos based on skin colour.
    Why do you constantly bring race into it?


    Oh, you're doing it too. It's been a popular trope on the_donald, gab and other such places where freeze peach people congregate. It's an oldie but sometimes works.


    It's basically "You're the real racist because you noticed that he only goes after brown people. You're the real racist for noticing that. Not the guy who goes after the brown people."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,604 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'll happily answer no. But why do you ask that? Are you calling him a racist because he highlights that non white people are given preferential treatment?

    Why do I ask? Because I want to know how far you're willing to toe the party line to pretend he's just honestly highlighting pedos because he cares about the children.

    I I haven't said he's racist. I think it's immaterial if he is racist. He's selling the narrative that the poor white man is being discriminated against because his supporters want to hear it.

    His not being racist is as irrelevant as caring about children. It's selling a message to his people and it's extremely successful. Look at the things he does and his supporters are willing to overlook the naughty behaviour because of his community work honestly exposing pedos.

    He's selling a message that people want to hear. The story has even grown to the point that he's the one who broke the story like he's an investigative journalist or something. It's fantasy stuff.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I I haven't said he's racist. I think it's immaterial if he is racist. He's selling the narrative that the poor white man is being discriminated against because his supporters want to hear it.

    I disagree. He is highlighting that people are getting away with paedophelia for fear of being classed as racist.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I disagree. He is highlighting that people are getting away with paedophelia for fear of being classed as racist.


    You mean the people who were arrested and sentenced to prison? Yeah, nice work there Tommy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 746 ✭✭✭GinAndBitter


    VeryTerry wrote: »
    Got my first yellow card because of my post in this thread for a comment made at GinAndBitter. I'm assuming she'll make an argument for me to have it rescinded on the grounds of free speech.

    Beg me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 342 ✭✭VeryTerry


    Beg me.

    Rat.

    Report me again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 746 ✭✭✭GinAndBitter


    VeryTerry wrote: »
    Rat.

    Nice, don't be crying about your yellow card, it's ok, remember this is just an online forum. You'll be ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    It's gas really, people on here defending Stuchberry, while he is a big AntiFa supporter - you know the crowd that go around beating up and attacking people with differing political opinions then them.

    And they go on about TR's thuggery ?

    Each side is as bad as the other.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    VeryTerry wrote: »
    Got my first yellow card because of my post in this thread for a comment made at GinAndBitter. I'm assuming she'll make an argument for me to have it rescinded on the grounds of free speech.


    As the great PigHead once said on this very forum, you can't call someone a spanner. But you can describe their post as spannery.


    There are many ways to avoid being spanked by the mods while still saying what you want to say.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 746 ✭✭✭GinAndBitter


    As the great PigHead once said on this very forum, you can't call someone a spanner. But you can describe their post as spannery.


    There are many ways to avoid being spanked by the mods while still saying what you want to say.

    Solid advice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    declan2693 wrote: »
    He doesnt hightlight paedos based on skin colour.
    Why do you constantly bring race into it?

    It might have something to do with Tommy and a pedophile finding a neo Nazi group... that turned out to be full of pedophiles... which tommy nor his followers seemingly give half a sh*t about.

    For them -and for Tommy most of all- the children being molested and raped are not victims, not really even human (which comes naturally to those on the far right) just weapons to attack minorities which and nothing more. Those being molested and raped by Tommy's old mates (including those he originally defended as 'stitched up') can just be happily ignored.

    That includes anyone and everyone in this thread claiming to be a supporter of his despite how often all the EDL pedophile links and Tommy's utter silence on them are brought up.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    MOD

    Thread Re-Opened.

    VeryTerry don't post in this thread again.

    Once again keep it civil and on topic please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Ex British Police Detective Maggie Oliver only seems to care when rapists and pedos are from Pakistan!





    Well, using the logic of some at least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,550 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    YouTube is great for Documentaries.


    A lot of people just ranting about aliens to the camera though. There's so much rubbish to sift through.to find the good ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Is this the one line thread ? I m waiting for Tommies next move the repetitive nature at present is dull.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Ex British Police Detective Maggie Oliver only seems to care when rapists and pedos are from Pakistan!





    Well, using the logic of some at least.
    I'd love to know Odhinn and ancaphailldorachas opinion on this.


    Especially you ancaphailldoracha - or will this post just be deleted ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    declan2693 wrote: »
    Of course. TR highlighted how a large group of paedos from a certain religion were being protected by the police and government and allowed to continue raping children for years for fear of being called a racist.

    Priests?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭98q76e12hrflnk


    Priests?

    He highlighted that too?

    He's too good.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Priests?

    Is priest a race now?

    But I see your point. child abuse was rife and rampant (perhaps still is) in the catholic church. But I wouldn't highlight that if I was you. Because if you do, you are ignoring all the other rapes just because you must be a bigot who hates priests.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭98q76e12hrflnk


    Is priest a race now?

    But I see your point. child abuse was rife and rampant (perhaps still is) in the catholic church. But I wouldn't highlight that if I was you. Because if you do, you are ignoring all the other rapes just because you must be a bigot who hates priests.

    What race is muslim?

    Why you bring up race?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    declan2693 wrote: »
    What race is muslim?

    Why you bring up race?

    It was because you said that because he was highlighting people from a certain religion and being branded racist.

    But you are correct and I misspoke.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭98q76e12hrflnk


    It was because you said that because he was highlighting people from a certain religion and being branded racist.

    But you are correct and I misspoke.

    Are religion and race that same thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,724 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Is priest a race now?

    But I see your point. child abuse was rife and rampant (perhaps still is) in the catholic church. But I wouldn't highlight that if I was you. Because if you do, you are ignoring all the other rapes just because you must be a bigot who hates priests.

    Personally would be happy to see every convicted rapist/pedo strung up by their toes in a public square and beaten like a pinata.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    declan2693 wrote: »
    Are religion and race that same thing?

    It was the "being branded racist" part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,710 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    It was the "being branded racist" part.

    Would "being branded bigoted" be more accurate?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 746 ✭✭✭GinAndBitter


    Ex British Police Detective Maggie Oliver only seems to care when rapists and pedos are from Pakistan!





    Well, using the logic of some at least.


    This is shocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,604 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ex British Police Detective Maggie Oliver only seems to care when rapists and pedos are from Pakistan!





    Well, using the logic of some at least.

    This is shocking.
    Depends. Does she ignore pedos unless three brown and Muslim? Cos that's pretty much what TR does, right?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 746 ✭✭✭GinAndBitter


    Depends. Does she ignore pedos unless three brown and Muslim? Cos that's pretty much what TR does, right?

    Why don't you tell us what you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,414 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Oftentimes it seems like criticism of SYL tends to come down to accusations of not caring about Asian grooming gangs. As if SYL is the one investigating these gangs and bringing them to justice (rather than just grabbing his pitchfork any time these gangs are identified by others).

    It's more than possible to hate and despise Asian grooming gangs and the problems which allow them to operate, while also thinking Stephen Yaxley Lennon is a Grade-A c*nt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,386 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Is priest a race now?

    But I see your point. child abuse was rife and rampant (perhaps still is) in the catholic church. But I wouldn't highlight that if I was you. Because if you do, you are ignoring all the other rapes just because you must be a bigot who hates priests.

    I read a study that said the number of priests who abuse is about the same as the general population. There's nothing about being a priest that makes you more likely to abuse. There's nothing about being a catholic that makes you more likely to abuse.
    That doesn't mean there wasn't a problem with the church as an organisation. It needed reform and it certainly shouldn't be in charge of education.

    There is a problem with muslim grooming gangs. However the numbers of muslims who are jailed for abuse is roughly in line with the rest of the population. Additionally there's zero evidence to suggest that muslims either approve of or ignore this behaviour. Just as there was no evidence to suggest that catholics approved of ignored priests who abused.

    So when someone comes along as starts saying that muslims are more likely to abuse. they are wrong. When they say people are at greater risk from muslims, they are wrong.

    It is worth studying how these gangs formed and seeing if there's anything special about them. Abusers do tend to seek each other out, whether it's online or in real life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,604 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Depends. Does she ignore pedos unless three brown and Muslim? Cos that's pretty much what TR does, right?

    Why don't you tell us what you think?
    OK. I think it has nothing to do with pedos or children. It's just a stick to beat brown people and Muslims. He's selling a message that a very popular now namely that white people have it hard and we should resent brown people and Muslims.

    What do you think?


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