Anything more pathetic than soccer Trolls/Gremlins?

riffmongous

I only have a casual interest in big time soccer, but since last night was Champions League final I thought I'd watch it and afterwards have a look around the internet to read a few articles, see some other opinions on how it went.. big mistake. 'Grown' Irish men following one english football team childishly winding up fans from another english football team because they lost (and I've heard it was just as bad a few weeks ago when the other club lost their final, so it's a case of both being as bad), while the ordinary decent fans just try to ignore them and discuss the game, which didn't really work.

It was kind of stuff if you saw a 5 year old doing you'd give out to them. Everywhere you'd look online where comments were allowed it was the same thing, really reminds me why I have no interest anymore in the top clubs, it's like some people are only interested so they can rub it in other people's faces, which is beyond sad.

Pauliedragon

You are 100% right mate. Comparing them to 5 year olds is insulting to children.

munsterlegend

riffmongous wrote: »

I only have a casual interest in big time soccer, but since last night was Champions League final I thought I'd watch it and afterwards have a look around the internet to read a few articles, see some other opinions on how it went.. big mistake. 'Grown' Irish men following one english football team childishly winding up fans from another english football team because they lost (and I've heard it was just as bad a few weeks ago when the other club lost their final, so it's a case of both being as bad), while the ordinary decent fans just try to ignore them and discuss the game, which didn't really work.

It was kind of stuff if you saw a 5 year old doing you'd give out to them. Everywhere you'd look online where comments were allowed it was the same thing, really reminds me why I have no interest anymore in the top clubs, it's like some people are only interested so they can rub it in other people's faces, which is beyond sad.

I watch football as much as the next person but I can't understand people getting overly upset about a team who aren't even local. Most people only support a team as they were the dominant team when they were growing up. Liverpool in the 80's or united in the 90's with the odd arsenal Chelsea fan thrown in.

To people who live in these places football is much more than just a game and is a passion and a sense of belonging particularly for men but plenty women have the bug too.

padd b1975

Yep, Liverpool fans have been the victims of this since last night....

Hercule Poirot

You should see the abuse Karius got, that's a disgusting way for anyone to behave

timthumbni

I’m glad to see that Liverpool are an equal opportunities employer anyway so we shouldn’t slag them off too much.

Especially with them putting Stevie Wonder in nets last night. Bravo Liverpool.

riffmongous

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

You should see the abuse Karius got, that's a disgusting way for anyone to behave

You'll never walk alone... although it must be said that the Pool fans in the stadium gave him an ovation when he came over to apologise, that was touching

Agricola

I'd don't have much problem with it when it comes to British fans of British teams who live in Britain. The rivalry there between cities in very real and it's as much a regional identity thing as it is a football thing.

But for Irish people to be joining in with it is a bit pathetic.

Fr_Dougal

AfterLife

Liverpool and Manchester United fans are absolute dopes in this country. Most of the rest are alright.

Your Face

There was a shot last night that showed grown men crying because their team lost.

Thats fine if it means that much to them but their children were there with them. These children were upset that their father was crying.
Its too much.

the_pen_turner

the whole thing is sickening. the way the 'fans' are talking about the people involved
liverpool lost because of their poor squad and some bad luck.

if the first goal was scored by liverpool all the media and trolls would be claiming the attacker was great and had great awarness to take that opertunity.

the bycicle goal was a once off .

the keeper spilling the ball goal was terible goal kepping but if liverpool had scored it , it would be all about the flight of the ball and the power behind it making it a great goal that the kepper couldnt stop.

the keeper was poor but the defense should have never let the shot be taken.

all the trolls would be praising liverpool if it was the other way around.

riffmongous

Agricola wrote: »

I'd don't have much problem with it when it comes to British fans of British teams who live in Britain. The rivalry there between cities in very real and it's as much a regional identity thing as it is a football thing.

But for Irish people to be joining in with it is a bit pathetic.

And let's be honest, a lot of them are the kind who look down on LOI and supporting their local teams, because there is no glory there.

I couldn't give a **** about living vicariously through a bunch of mercenaries, I go to the local games every week for the atmosphere (which we make ourselves) and to have a laugh with the other decent fans, if we win, great, let's party, if we lose, oh well, let's go party, same result every Friday night

Ulysses Gaze

riffmongous wrote: »

And let's be honest, a lot of them are the kind who look down on LOI and supporting their local teams, because there is no glory there.

I couldn't give a **** about living vicariously through a bunch of mercenaries, I go to the local games every week for the atmosphere (which we make ourselves) and to have a laugh with the other decent fans, if we win, great, let's party, if we lose, oh well, let's go party, same result every Friday night

I've started to go to my local clubs games now.
They play in the Leinster Senior League so quality is so-so.
But it's fun to watch them play and have a bit of banter with other fans.

How Soon Is Now

Jesus christ talk about a melt down. If yous won last night ya would of been living it up in everyone's ear hole well into next season.

Talking about how amazing a manager Klopp is how yous play the most entertaining attacking stuff didn't spend any money bascially the saviours of football.

Here's the ****ing reality of it Liverpool play great attacking football when there allowed. The only consistent thing about the club over the last few years is that yous always find a way to ruin all the hard work yous put in and bottle it nearly every time you get a chance to win something big.

As soon as Salah was out last night yous where done Klopp doesn't have a clue how to change a system mid game its as if he has one go at it every game and if **** hits the fan sure at least we didn't park the bus.....

Who's fault was it this time? Ramos? The keeper again?

A Pint of Goo

Man up. Fans slagging each other's teams is part of it. If you can't handle the banter then don't hang with the big boys.

riffmongous

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

I've started to go to my local clubs games now.
They play in the Leinster Senior League so quality is so-so.
But it's fun to watch them play and have a bit of banter with other fans.

Same with my local team (not in Ireland) but we still get a good crowd so it helps, but at the end of the day it's up to whatever fans are there to make the atmosphere and make it enjoyable. Beats sitting in a pub watching in on tv, or paying 50 quid to sit in silence for 90 minutes with a load of strangers

riffmongous

A Pint of Goo wrote: »

Man up. Fans slagging each other's teams is part of it. If you can't handle the banter then don't hang with the big boys.

The big boys? You mean the senior infants?

Sam Quentin

I always feel let down when I'm talking to(what seems like)a mature rational adult Irish man,... And then THE DREADED WORDS!?...
'who do you support, what about #_some uk premier team_ # weren't they shít the other night'???

Pauliedragon

Unfortunately guys it's not just soccer fans who are arses it's just life. I used to run pubs in Australia where rules are very strict on being drunk and the abuse myself and the people I worked with was insane and it wasn't from behind a screen it was people in my face. The level of aggression in the world in general is going up and up. I had to get police escorts from work on occasion just because I wouldn't let someone into the pub and they threatened to follow me home and kill me. We are getting more and more aggressive for whatever reason but it's an unfortunate fact of life.

the_pen_turner

A Pint of Goo wrote: »

Man up. Fans slagging each other's teams is part of it. If you can't handle the banter then don't hang with the big boys.

telling the keeper to kill himself isnt banter.


telling him to put his medal up safe incase he drops it is banter

limnam

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

The keeper again?

How Soon Is Now

By the way just incase any fans of a perticular club decides to start calling people ***** etc etc because they got bit upset yous don't have your mod to protect you in After Hours.

riffmongous

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Jesus christ talk about a melt down. If yous won last night ya would of been living it up in everyone's ear hole well into next season.

Talking about how amazing a manager Klopp is how yous play the most entertaining attacking stuff didn't spend any money bascially the saviours of football.

Here's the ****ing reality of it Liverpool play great attacking football when there allowed. The only consistent thing about the club over the last few years is that yous always find a way to ruin all the hard work yous put in and bottle it nearly every time you get a chance to win something big.

As soon as Salah was out last night yous where done Klopp doesn't have a clue how to change a system mid game its as if he has one go at it every game and if **** hits the fan sure at least we didn't park the bus.....

Who's fault was it this time? Ramos? The keeper again?

Save it for the soccer forum with the rest of the WUMs, no one here gives a ****

limnam

riffmongous wrote: »

Save it for the soccer forum with the rest of the WUMs, no one here gives a ****

How Soon Is Now

riffmongous wrote: »

Save it for the soccer forum with the rest of the WUMs, no one here gives a ****

Do you think After Hours posters want the Soccer thread **** storm being dragged into there section as well?

Sam Quentin

Sam Quentin wrote: »

I always feel let down when I'm talking to(what seems like)a mature rational adult Irish man,... And then THE DREADED WORDS!?...
'who do you support, what about #_some uk premier team_ # weren't they shít the other night'???

Or the eponymous "WE". To paraphrase Bill Maher: There is no "we", you're not the "twelfth man". You're not going to be kicking it with Salah if Liverpool pull it off. It's 11 foreign lads who would hate you if they knew you.

limnam

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Do you think After Hours posters want the Soccer thread **** storm being dragged into there section as well?

riffmongous

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Do you think After Hours posters want the Soccer thread **** storm being dragged into there section as well?

This goes beyond the soccer forum in fairness, its everywhere online when these two teams are involved. I mean keep the specific partisan stuff out of here, no one wants that

DickSwiveller

My sister and I attended an Oasis tribute band yesterday in Kiltipper Bar. There was a big crowd there watching the match. Now I have little interest in football but some of the carry on was beyond embarrassing. People roaring constantly, jumping up and down and just annoying those who had no interest. When Real Madrid scored their second goal a chap across the way slammed his phone on the table and knocked over everyone's drinks. Embarrassing isn't the word.

the_pen_turner

riffmongous wrote: »

This goes beyond the soccer forum in fairness, its everywhere online when these two teams are involved. I mean keep the specific partisan stuff out of here, no one wants that

this isnt reallly about the match. its about the media and the fans on social media.

riffmongous

the_pen_turner wrote: »

this isnt reallly about the match. its about the media and the fans on social media.

Exactly! Posting about the match will only get the thread locked ( and with good cause)

How Soon Is Now

riffmongous wrote: »

Exactly! Posting about the match will only get the thread locked ( and with good cause)

After what went on in Soccer forum and was allowed to be let go on another thread bringing it all up isn't needed.

I know you might not be aiming it at just last night but that's what's fresh in everyone's mind.

It's petty **** between people really it's only bothering me because it would of been very different situation if results where different.

limnam

the_pen_turner wrote: »

this isnt reallly about the match. its about the media and the fans on social media.

alchemist33

limnam wrote: »

Disgusting and inaccurate.





There's no way Karius would have been abke to hold on to that trophy.

riffmongous

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

After what went on in Soccer forum and was allowed to be let go on another thread bringing it all up isn't needed.

I know you might not be aiming it at just last night but that's what's frfaiesh in everyone's mind.

It's petty **** between people really it's only bothering me because it would of been very different situation if results where different.

Fair enough but I kept everything in the title and op non biased you brought the partisan stuff into it and brought it up on the soccer forum

Joe Dog

Don't have a problem with the fans of english teams who support a team for fun enjoy a laugh about it and don't take it too seriously.

However the fans who go overboard and can't take a bit of banter and gentle slagging are complete gob****es and need to look at themselves and realise it's just a bit of fun.


By the way although Karius was awful for the first goal it's a piece of brilliant play by Benzema and that should be appreciated but sadly it won't be. His cleverness to take a chance on a poor throw and put himself in the right area is a great piece of play.

WinnyThePoo

Ramin Djawadi wrote: »

only thing more pathetic is posters with a casual interest in big time soccer

I'd say reregs.

Blazer

riffmongous wrote: »

I only have a casual interest in big time soccer, but since last night was Champions League final I thought I'd watch it and afterwards have a look around the internet to read a few articles, see some other opinions on how it went.. big mistake. 'Grown' Irish men following one english football team childishly winding up fans from another english football team because they lost (and I've heard it was just as bad a few weeks ago when the other club lost their final, so it's a case of both being as bad), while the ordinary decent fans just try to ignore them and discuss the game, which didn't really work.

It was kind of stuff if you saw a 5 year old doing you'd give out to them. Everywhere you'd look online where comments were allowed it was the same thing, really reminds me why I have no interest anymore in the top clubs, it's like some people are only interested so they can rub it in other people's faces, which is beyond sad.

and yet you felt the need to post this under that title? You're equally as bad so off your high horse.

Franz Von Peppercorn

the_pen_turner wrote: »

telling the keeper to kill himself isnt banter.


telling him to put his medal up safe incase he drops it is banter

Give over. You are part of the problem in the soccer forum. You even said Salah should have played on with a dislocated shoulder.

Franz Von Peppercorn

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

By the way just incase any fans of a perticular club decides to start calling people ***** etc etc because they got bit upset yous don't have your mod to protect you in After Hours.

I don’t think you get this thread.

limnam

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

You even said Salah should have played on with a dislocated shoulder.

Kevin Moran would have done it.

the_pen_turner

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Give over. You are part of the problem in the soccer forum. You even said Salah should have played on with a dislocated shoulder.

he didnt have a dislocated shoulder.
all im said was that lots of players in the past have played on with worse injuries
he is their only great player . im sugesting he could have tried to play longer and see if he could add anything to the game.

seachto7

limnam wrote: »

Kevin Moran would have done it.

So did one of the Argentinians in 1986.

I remember years ago a lad at work asked me who did I “follow”. I said “Utd” just to make conversation and he said “ya bollox. I’m a scouser”. I wanted to say “no you’re not. You’re from Shannon”.

Conservatory

I purposely have no intention of joining the soccer forum. I do read it to keep up with transfer news and I had a good laugh reading it last night a chap got called a sex offender for thanking a post. It was bizarre.

I follow English football but I’m not a spit when I talk loon that doesn’t realize these players are rich and miles away from where we will ever be.

I only follow united because my dad did and he probably only follows them because they had George best at the time. Some people make it their whole identity and sing the songs in their factory jobs in an English accent. It’s crazy.

The teams never lose because they were the worse team it was always somebody else’s fault. Some nutters even know all the referees and can recall a time they didn’t get a questionable penalty from them 2 seasons ago.

Take last night for example 2 players had a tussle and fell over. One player got injured and the other fella is now the worst monster ever who purposely went out with the intention of causing a particular injury that Bruce lee couldn’t of planned.

If Liverpool won last night they would be saying how the manager got that keeper who was released by his last club for a nominal fee and turned him into a world class stopper but he made 2 mistakes and now he should die aparantly.

Like the lads sitting on the bar stools never made a mistake in their lives. By the looks of it last night I’d say half the people on that thread may be banned from it. That’s why I wouldn’t go in there it’s just children and mad men.

limnam

Conservatory wrote: »

Take last night for example 2 players had a tussle and fell over. One player got injured and the other fella is now the worst monster ever who purposely went out with the intention of causing a particular injury that Bruce lee couldn’t of planned.

Herpes Free Since03

limnam wrote: »

😉😂

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

By the way just incase any fans of a perticular club decides to start calling people ***** etc etc because they got bit upset yous don't have your mod to protect you in After Hours.

Unmm... That was you?

This implied you've had time run-ins with moderators before for some reason.

You seem to forget your in black debate forum not BBC606. The topic is trolling in football, and you decide yay! Free dig at rival club with out getting into trouble with the soccer forum! Lemme in lemme in!

Correct?

limnam

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The topic is trolling in football, and you decide yay! Free dig at rival club with out getting into trouble with the soccer forum! Lemme in lemme in!

PowerToWait

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Jesus christ talk about a melt down. If yous won last night ya would of been living it up in everyone's ear hole well into next season.

Talking about how amazing a manager Klopp is how yous play the most entertaining attacking stuff didn't spend any money bascially the saviours of football.

Here's the ****ing reality of it Liverpool play great attacking football when there allowed. The only consistent thing about the club over the last few years is that yous always find a way to ruin all the hard work yous put in and bottle it nearly every time you get a chance to win something big.

As soon as Salah was out last night yous where done Klopp doesn't have a clue how to change a system mid game its as if he has one go at it every game and if **** hits the fan sure at least we didn't park the bus.....

Who's fault was it this time? Ramos? The keeper again?

Fairly ironic considering the thread title. Also cringe af. This whole 'you' and 'us' is toe curling.

My neighbour plays a Wolfe Tones CD on loop EVERY SINGLE warm evening, on some sort of outdoor speaker. All the usual Republican bs. Hateful wānker.

Also watches games outside somehow. He's a Man U supporter as can be judged by the roars out of the useless, childish 50 something hypocrite.

_Kaiser_

I would say I'm a Pool fan, but not religiously so.. I don't have the time to watch every match, and nor would I really be bothered if it's a lower-tier opposition/competition anyway.

So I usually watch the bigger matches if I'm free, but even at that most are extremely overhyped by the likes of Sky and turn out to be a dull draw, or predictable when Pool fall apart after getting their goal.

But the biggest reason is probably the hugely OTT behavior of some of the fans.. it's just a bloody game FFS! Online death threats against players? I'm normally an advocate for having a bit of a thicker skin if you venture into the world of social media (or the Internet in general), but that's too far.. for cases like that I'd fully support the hard-men being pulled from their keyboards and made explain themselves.

I watched the first half of the match, but it was in a crowded hotel bar, and I left at half time... mostly because of the atmosphere in the place to be honest. That and €5.70 for a pint of Club Orange (I was driving) is ridiculous!

It's not just English soccer either to be fair - GAA fans can be as bad!