Why do women speak in riddles when they want a one-night stand?

Hammer89

This is partially inspired the one-night stand thread, not a spin-off thread where I pretend I'm the other woman's husband or something.

Anywho, why are women a bit cloak and dagger when it comes to facilitating one-night stands? I've accidentally turned down some of these in the past because I've been way too pissed to pick up on their covert way of disguising the invitiation.

Sometimes it's pretty obvious, like a woman admitting that she's been having a lot of promiscuous sex since the death of her father, which I'm pretty sure was an offer (I didn't take her up on it so I might've been completely wrong, but it seemed like a very odd admission if she wasn't up for it) and other times it's extremely subtle, like on Saturday night.

I'm traipsing down Camden St on my own in search of a cigarette after my sister-in-law's birthday. I stop two girls and get one off them. One thing leads to another and one of them - a Dublin girl - asks me where the best place to get a taxi is "around here". I gave her directions - "yeah, so, you wanna take this left up here, walk for about 100 metres until you see a First Active, and you'll see the taxi rank there that doesn't exist" - even though I'd no idea where I was sending them to, but she was staring at me, with solid eye contact, instead of looking ahead to where I was pointing.

It's a pretty thick question at 4am on a Sunday morning around Camden St first of all, a bit like asking my advice on how to win the Euromillions or something, but when I woke up I explored the possibility that she was actually asking me to share a taxi with her. Or maybe both? Maybe I could've had a threesome. Or maybe she wasn't interested in anything sexual and just wanted to know where she could get a taxi. Who the **** knows, but it still doesn't make sense to me why a Dublin girl - probably in her early 30s, so it wasn't her first night on the tiles - would ask a Dublin lad how to get a taxi in Dublin unless there was actually an element of subtext, with the subtext being 'Here, you, do you want to have sex?'

That incident aside, women, in my experience, are a bit cryptic when it comes to this type of thing, way more cryptic than lads I think. Is it because it's less slutty and desperate if they translate their riddles into Layman terms? Is it a defence mechanism, to shield them from the potential humiliation of being turned down, so they can pretend that the bloke misinterpreted things? Or is it because it's lady-like to not explicitly say these things out loud? Who knows, but it's interesting.

Outlaw Pete

Cause they want to shag men who are good at working them out.

lawred2

Maybe she wanted a taxi

Maybe she didn't but she wants to check that you're not a total dope first.. which you would have failed

I'd say she wanted a taxi

verycool

Destination: Friendzone.
Population: You.

aaronjumper

'Yes I will go to bed with you but only if you can answer these riddles three.'

No I don't actually have any riddles for ye, feck off.

super_furry

Looking for a taxi at 4am is a tricky thing and I don't think there'd be anything unusual about asking someone if they know the best spot to head to - especially if you're not familiar with the area.

Think you're reading too much into it there.

riffmongous

Hammer89 wrote: »

This is partially inspired the one-night stand thread, not a spin-off thread where I pretend I'm the other woman's husband or something.

Anywho, why are women a bit cloak and dagger when it comes to facilitating one-night stands? I've accidentally turned down some of these in the past because I've been way too pissed to pick up on their covert way of disguising the invitiation.

Sometimes it's pretty obvious, like a woman admitting that she's been having a lot of promiscuous sex since the death of her father, which I'm pretty sure was an offer (I didn't take her up on it so I might've been completely wrong, but it seemed like a very odd admission if she wasn't up for it) and other times it's extremely subtle, like on Saturday night.

I'm traipsing down Camden St on my own in search of a cigarette after my sister-in-law's birthday. I stop two girls and get one off them. One thing leads to another and one of them - a Dublin girl - asks me where the best place to get a taxi is "around here". I gave her directions - "yeah, so, you wanna take this left up here, walk for about 100 metres until you see a First Active, and you'll see the taxi rank there that doesn't exist" - even though I'd no idea where I was sending them to, but she was staring at me, with solid eye contact, instead of looking ahead to where I was pointing.

It's a pretty thick question at 4am on a Sunday morning around Camden St first of all, a bit like asking my advice on how to win the Euromillions or something, but when I woke up I explored the possibility that she was actually asking me to share a taxi with her. Or maybe both? Maybe I could've had a threesome. Or maybe she wasn't interested in anything sexual and just wanted to know where she could get a taxi. Who the **** knows, but it still doesn't make sense to me why a Dublin girl - probably in her early 30s, so it wasn't her first night on the tiles - would ask a Dublin lad how to get a taxi in Dublin unless there was actually an element of subtext, with the subtext being 'Here, you, do you want to have sex?'

That incident aside, women, in my experience, are a bit cryptic when it comes to this type of thing, way more cryptic than lads I think. Is it because it's less slutty and desperate if they translate their riddles into Layman terms? Is it a defence mechanism, to shield them from the potential humiliation of being turned down, so they can pretend that the bloke misinterpreted things? Or is it because it's lady-like to not explicitly say these things out loud? Who knows, but it's interesting.

Probably was afraid if she looked you'd pull out a syringe and mug her

Diemos

The question is why do they always say: 'I've never done this before'?

VainHard Bendix

She wasn't 100% committing to a one night stand at that moment.
She was offering you the chance to persuade her. i.e a bag of chips to seal the
deal.

Hammer89

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Cause they want to shag men who are good at working them out.

This is interesting.

seamus

If it helps OP, the correct answer was not, "I'll share a taxi with you", as she would have said, "Eh, nah you're OK thanks". The correct answer was, "Here, I'll walk with you". This would give her a chance to get to know you at least a little and then she can decide when the taxi arrives whether to invite you back.

anewme

Hammer89 wrote: »

it's extremely subtle, like on Saturday night.

I'm traipsing down Camden St on my own in search of a cigarette after my sister-in-law's birthday. I stop two girls and get one off them. One thing leads to another and one of them - a Dublin girl - asks me where the best place to get a taxi is "around here". I gave her directions - "yeah, so, you wanna take this left up here, walk for about 100 metres until you see a First Active, and you'll see the taxi rank there that doesn't exist" - even though I'd no idea where I was sending them to, but she was staring at me, with solid eye contact, instead of looking ahead to where I was pointing.

She knew you'd no idea where you were sending them to either.

Once you mentioned First Active, they all closed in 2010, she knew you were suss.

Probably staring out of sheer terror.
:pac:

Roger Hassenforder

seamus wrote: »

If it helps OP, the correct answer was not, "I'll share a taxi with you", as she would have said, "Eh, nah you're OK thanks". The correct answer was, "Here, I'll walk with you". This would give her a chance to get to know you at least a little and then she can decide when the taxi arrives whether to invite you back.

Pro-tip ^

Hammer89

anewme wrote: »

She knew you'd no idea where you were sending them to either.

Once you mentioned First Active, they all closed in 2010, she knew you were suss.

Probably staring out of sheer terror.
:pac:

That was the joke. That bit was paraphrased for the sake of humour.

Hammer89

super_furry wrote: »

Looking for a taxi at 4am is a tricky thing and I don't think there'd be anything unusual about asking someone if they know the best spot to head to - especially if you're not familiar with the area.

Think you're reading too much into it there.

It's certainly possible that I've read too much into it.

Though going by instinct I doubt she would've been unfamiliar with Camden St or the difficulties people face in getting a taxi on this road after a night out. As I said, she was from Dublin and in her early 30s I'd guess, and I think girls are quite coy when it comes to this type of thing, so I think it's a plausible theory.

ArchXStanton

Diemos wrote: »

The question is why do they always say: 'I've never done this before'?

Lol if I had a cent for everytime I heard that....sure you have love

Tiddlypeeps

Women who are open to casual sexual encounters are still seen as sluts and therefore lesser people by many. Attitudes towards this are changing, but this is still very much a thing. If you don't believe me try starting a thread asking blokes how many previous sexual partners is too many for a woman to be considered "girlfriend material".

This can lead to some women feeling a bit dirty or guilty about wanting to engage in casual sexual encounters, which makes them more likely to be a bit coy or subtle about the whole thing.

Diemos

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

Women who are open to casual sexual encounters are still seen as sluts and therefore lesser people by many. Attitudes towards this are changing, but this is still very much a thing. If you don't believe me try starting a thread asking blokes how many previous sexual partners is too many for a woman to be considered "girlfriend material".

This can lead to some women feeling a bit dirty or guilty about wanting to engage in casual sexual encounters, which makes them more likely to be a bit coy or subtle about the whole thing.

Really?! My single days are behind me but I've never known any of my mates to have that attitude.
If a guy needs to know the number then the issue is with the guy not the girl. Just be grateful she's picking you now.

Tigger

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

Women who are open to casual sexual encounters are still seen as sluts and therefore lesser people by many. Attitudes towards this are changing, but this is still very much a thing. If you don't believe me try starting a thread asking blokes how many previous sexual partners is too many for a woman to be considered "girlfriend material".

This can lead to some women feeling a bit dirty or guilty about wanting to engage in casual sexual encounters, which makes them more likely to be a bit coy or subtle about the whole thing.

Depends what age she is as well

Purple Mountain

Hammer89 wrote: »

This is partially inspired the one-night stand thread, not a spin-off thread where I pretend I'm the other woman's husband or something.

Anywho, why are women a bit cloak and dagger when it comes to facilitating one-night stands? I've accidentally turned down some of these in the past because I've been way too pissed to pick up on their covert way of disguising the invitiation.

Sometimes it's pretty obvious, like a woman admitting that she's been having a lot of promiscuous sex since the death of her father, which I'm pretty sure was an offer (I didn't take her up on it so I might've been completely wrong, but it seemed like a very odd admission if she wasn't up for it) and other times it's extremely subtle, like on Saturday night.

I'm traipsing down Camden St on my own in search of a cigarette after my sister-in-law's birthday. I stop two girls and get one off them. One thing leads to another and one of them - a Dublin girl - asks me where the best place to get a taxi is "around here". I gave her directions - "yeah, so, you wanna take this left up here, walk for about 100 metres until you see a First Active, and you'll see the taxi rank there that doesn't exist" - even though I'd no idea where I was sending them to, but she was staring at me, with solid eye contact, instead of looking ahead to where I was pointing.

It's a pretty thick question at 4am on a Sunday morning around Camden St first of all, a bit like asking my advice on how to win the Euromillions or something, but when I woke up I explored the possibility that she was actually asking me to share a taxi with her. Or maybe both? Maybe I could've had a threesome. Or maybe she wasn't interested in anything sexual and just wanted to know where she could get a taxi. Who the **** knows, but it still doesn't make sense to me why a Dublin girl - probably in her early 30s, so it wasn't her first night on the tiles - would ask a Dublin lad how to get a taxi in Dublin unless there was actually an element of subtext, with the subtext being 'Here, you, do you want to have sex?'

That incident aside, women, in my experience, are a bit cryptic when it comes to this type of thing, way more cryptic than lads I think. Is it because it's less slutty and desperate if they translate their riddles into Layman terms? Is it a defence mechanism, to shield them from the potential humiliation of being turned down, so they can pretend that the bloke misinterpreted things? Or is it because it's lady-like to not explicitly say these things out loud? Who knows, but it's interesting.

Was she travelling back to Annebrook House Hotel by any chance?

Ficheall

Many years ago, when I was about 19, I brought a friend I'd had a massive crush on for about two years to a gig. Walked her home, after a lovely evening, and she invited me up for a coffee...




"No thanks, I don't drink coffee."




Eternal regret.

emo72

You probably need to get your "consent form" signed before any more interaction took place. Dodged a bullet mate.

riffmongous

Ficheall wrote: »

Many years ago, when I was about 19, I brought a friend I'd had a massive crush on for about two years to a gig. Walked her home, after a lovely evening, and she invited me up for a coffee...




"No thanks, I don't drink coffee."




Eternal regret.

Don't feel too bad, an Irish person offering you a coffee would confuse anyone

Riskymove

Ficheall wrote: »

Eternal regret.

reminds me of the GB Shaw sketches on the Mary Whitehouse experience about how his keen satirical wit keeps him from pulling!

Sarah Bernhardt: Mr. Shaw, you and I should make love, for with my looks and your brains we would have wonderful children.
George Bernard Shaw: Aha! But what if the child were born with my looks and your brain? ...

(Walks outside)

Oh no, I've just blown out a definite shag!



Sarah Bernhardt: Mr. Shaw, fancy a shag?
George Bernard Shaw: "Fancy"? It is the darling of society but the outcast of the soul...


oh no, I've done it again!

Your Face

Sometimes I feel sorry for women who have to put up with this nonsense.

Cleopatra_

I actually don't know if many men want women to be direct. I'm quite direct and it seems to terrify most of ye, ye don't know what to do then. I think ye enjoy the chase a bit! I enjoy terrifying men though so I'll never stop being direct

Overheal

Two women walk up to you outside smoking, “one of us only tells lies and the other only tells the truth...”

Sheeps

Probably best you turn women down who speak in riddles about promiscuous sex. Don't want to end up being a victim like Paddy Jackson.

irishguitarlad

VainHard Bendix wrote: »

She wasn't 100% committing to a one night stand at that moment.
She was offering you the chance to persuade her. i.e a bag of chips to seal the
deal.

Dangerous thing, especially if coleslaw or curry is involved. You could have a ****ty bed the next morning.

Hammer89

emo72 wrote: »

You probably need to get your "consent form" signed before any more interaction took place. Dodged a bullet mate.

She dodged a bigger bullet to be fair.

Digital Solitude

Ficheall wrote: »

Many years ago, when I was about 19, I brought a friend I'd had a massive crush on for about two years to a gig. Walked her home, after a lovely evening, and she invited me up for a coffee...




"No thanks, I don't drink coffee."




Eternal regret.

I walked my OH home after our second night out, 2am "do ya wanna come up for tae?"

"Ah yer sound, don't drink tea. I'd take water though?"

It worked

Hammer89

Overheal wrote: »

Two women walk up to you outside smoking, “one of us only tells lies and the other only tells the truth...”

"I can't operate on this boy he's my son. Tell me who the surgeon was and you can get the taxi with me."

Is this the same op as the one about a woman crossing the road actually means all she values in life is her looks

_Kaiser_

Cleopatra_ wrote: »

I actually don't know if many men want women to be direct. I'm quite direct and it seems to terrify most of ye, ye don't know what to do then. I think ye enjoy the chase a bit! I enjoy terrifying men though so I'll never stop being direct

Oh I dunno Cleo. There's a lot to be said for the upfront, direct approach

I personally much prefer people who are upfront, know what they want, and not shy about expressing themselves (and not just in this context )

Makes life much easier!

A Pint of Goo

Ficheall wrote: »

Many years ago, when I was about 19, I brought a friend I'd had a massive crush on for about two years to a gig. Walked her home, after a lovely evening, and she invited me up for a coffee...




"No thanks, I don't drink coffee."




Eternal regret.

That was painful to read.

Hammer89

bluewolf wrote: »

Is this the same op as the one about a woman crossing the road actually means all she values in life is her looks

No.

mea_k

Diemos wrote: »

The question is why do they always say: 'I've never done this before'?

Ah come onnnnn sureley its allways someones first time. I have never had one night stand . however i think id nearly go for one now since it seems such a normal behaviour . Also im prettt sure since im very nervous id say the same if i where to have one.

waffleman

Friend of mine was at a party years ago. Woman asks him does he wana go up to her room to "take a look" at her curtains for her. He reappears about a minute later completely oblivious to what she was after.

He still gets reminded about it.

A Pint of Goo

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Lol if I had a cent for everytime I heard that....sure you have love

Yeah or when you ask them how many guys they've been with and they say 'three' yeah...think if we double that and multiply it by 3 we'll be half way there.

Minister

Years ago when We were on the pull Brady used make a bit of small talk with a woman and after about ten minutes he'd say to her 'I suppose a ride's outta the question?'

Seven out of eight times he was right but at least he got his end away every other weekend......

Rest of us just......well, we weren't as lucky. This was the eighties when you had to put in effort.

Having been second time around a few years ago these same women now in their late forties are putting it on a plate and are straight forward about what they want.

Cupcake_Crisis

So, are women not supposed to ask a guy a question now unless they want to ride them? Just so I know like.

Ficheall

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

So, are women not supposed to ask a guy a question now unless they want to ride them? Just so I know like.

That sounds like a question to me... Hi

Hammer89

Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »

So, are women not supposed to ask a guy a question now unless they want to ride them? Just so I know like.

You might be ignoring the context here, and the context is key.

The question wasn't asked in broad daylight on a Tuesday afternoon when queing at Costa; it was asked by a potentially single woman in her early 30s in the aftermath of a Saturday night where alcohol was likely taken. Not only that, but it was asked by a Dublin woman who has to have known that it can be quite difficult to pick up a taxi at 4am on a Sunday morning in one of the city's most popular districts during the weekend.

Don't get me wrong, I'm far from certain that she wanted a one-night stand or any sort of sexual encounter, but I'm also far from certain that she didn't. With the question not making a great deal of sense (in my opinion) and the fact she didn't look very interested in my answer to that question, it really isn't unreasonable to wonder whether she had an ulterior motive.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Hammer89 wrote: »

You might be ignoring the context here, and the context is key.

The question wasn't asked in broad daylight on a Tuesday afternoon when queing at Costa; it was asked by a potentially single woman in her early 30s in the aftermath of a Saturday night where alcohol was likely taken. Not only that, but it was asked by a Dublin woman who has to have known that it can be quite difficult to pick up a taxi at 4am on a Sunday morning in one of the city's most popular districts during the weekend.

Don't get me wrong, I'm far from certain that she wanted a one-night stand or any sort of sexual encounter, but I'm also far from certain that she didn't. With the question not making a great deal of sense (in my opinion) and the fact she didn't look very interested in my answer to that question, it really isn't unreasonable to wonder whether she had an ulterior motive.

Let’s go over this:

You stopped her to ask for a cigarette. She then asked you where to get a taxi. The fact that she’s from Dublin doesn’t mean she knows anything about Camden st or its taxi situation on a Sunday morning at 4am.

Then she looked a bit vacant when you gave directions.

You are really stretching things here.

brianregan09

You're talking ****e basically is what everyone is dancing around telling you

Sam Quentin

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Let’s go over this:

You stopped her to ask for a cigarette. She then asked you where to get a taxi. The fact that she’s from Dublin doesn’t mean she knows anything about Camden st or its taxi situation on a Sunday morning at 4am.



Then she looked a bit vacant when you gave directions.

You are really stretching things here.

Why da fook are you so obviously jealous of him.
He's probably correct in his assumption!?
I get that a lot. Am telling a 100% truthful story about a 'come on' by a woman. And some jealous egit has to have something smart/envious/jealous to say!?

Hammer89

brianregan09 wrote: »

You're talking ****e basically is what everyone is dancing around telling you

No need for anyone to tell me that. I've suggested on three separate occasions that I could be wrong Brian, but by the same token it's also possible that she threw out a hint that, had I picked up on, may have led to a one-night stand. Well it wouldn't have led to that either way because I don't perform well with that amount of drink taken, but that isn't the point.

Hammer89

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Why da fook are you so obviously jealous of him.
He's probably correct in his assumption!?
I get that a lot. Am telling a 100% truthful story about a 'come on' by a woman. And some jealous egit has to have something smart/envious/jealous to say!?

He did the same in the other one-night stand thread, but in his defence I don't think he was questioning what happened in this scenario. I think he was questioning my interpretation of what might have happened.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Why da fook are you so obviously jealous of him.
He's probably correct in his assumption!?
I get that a lot. Am telling a 100% truthful story about a 'come on' by a woman. And some jealous egit has to have something smart/envious/jealous to say!?

Yeh that’s it.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Hammer89 wrote: »

He did the same in the other one-night stand thread, but in his defence I don't think he was questioning what happened in this scenario. I think he was questioning my interpretation of what might have happened.

No I’m questioning that a woman looking vacant is a come on.

I didn’t really question the other guy at all. He had a story which was more believable because he was trying to make it up to his wife. In fact he thanked all my posts. (Thread has disappeared now).

Hammer89

trevk wrote: »

Names were not exchanged

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

I do find that strange. Looks like there was no conversation at all. “You’re pulled, lad”, some shagging, then you teleported back to your own bedroom

Looks to me like you did question him mate. Or am I misinterpreting that as well?

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

I didn’t really question the other guy at all. He had a story which was more believable because he was trying to make it up to his wife. In fact he thanked all my posts. (Thread has disappeared now).