Cameron Reilly Murder

RacoonQueen

Lashes28 wrote: »

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-quiz-three-young-people-12613055

They are questioning three people now

Given his age, could be another case of under 18's committing murder and showing no remorse. Two within 10/11 days is pretty f*cking shocking.

Lashes28

They have found his phone in a woman's house 10k from the scene after his friends realised his Snapchat were being opened.

Tbf I'm not surprised if it's teens they seem to have very little repercussions for their actions these days. And peer pressure has to be so much harder with social media

ChikiChiki

Lashes28 wrote: »

They have found his phone in a woman's house 10k from the scene after his friends realised his Snapchat were being opened.

Tbf I'm not surprised if it's teens they seem to have very little repercussions for their actions these days. And peer pressure has to be so much harder with social media

Thats absolutely ridiculous. Some cretin opening his SCs and not saying anything?

Been a horrifiying few weeks on our little island.

whisky_galore

Ush1 wrote: »

Horrific, don't know what's going on with young people in Ireland.

The ones who watched will see his face when they close their eyes at night till the day they die.

It's not a 'young people' thing.

I'm sure there are pensioners living in Ireland today who were in 'the movement' or drugs trade back in the day who didn't think twice about putting a bullet in someone's head while someone pleaded for their life or dug a hole for a body in a bog somewhere. And they're now happily living out their twilight years without a bother on them.

There have always been nasty c*nts and there will always be.

seamus

Nobody coming forward is probably to be expected. If there are a couple of psychos in the group, then others would fear that they'll be next if they come forward.

As the Gardai conduct more enquiries and it becomes clear that they're getting close to making arrests and charging people, the witnesses will start to break and come forward.

It's sad obviously that nobody did come forward, but even if they were seasoned adults, it's amazing what a little fear can do.

Ush1

whisky_galore wrote: »

It's not a 'young people' thing.

I'm sure there are pensioners living in Ireland today who were in 'the movement' or drugs trade back in the day who didn't think twice about putting a bullet in someone's head while someone pleaded for their life or dug a hole for a body in a bog somewhere. And they're now happily living out their twilight years without a bother on them.

There have always been nasty c*nts and there will always be.

These were 18 year olds and in the Ana Kriegel case it looks like 13 year olds. This isn't organised terrorists with an agenda or from the looks of it hardened criminals involved in the drugs trade.

This seems to be teenagers that when in a group will kill someone and leave the body to rot, then go to school the next day.

whisky_galore

Ush1 wrote: »

These were 18 year olds and in the Ana Kriegel case it looks like 13 year olds. This isn't organised terrorists with an agenda or from the looks of it hardened criminals involved in the drugs trade.

This seems to be teenagers that when in a group will kill someone and leave the body to rot, then go to school the next day.

Young or old. They're still cnuts though.

Even hardened criminals and terrorists started somewhere. Most of those had mammies and daddies.

I just don't buy the 'what is it with kids these days' line.

Theboinkmaster

Suckit wrote: »

I wonder if it was anything like this.

http://zeenews.india.com/india/blue-whale-challenge-choking-game-and-other-deadly-online-crazes-2032167.html



While it is still horrific it would be more palatable if it was kids playing an innocent game that went wrong..

Doubt it - he was beaten as well.

This was murder.

Suckit

Lashes28 wrote: »

They have found his phone in a woman's house 10k from the scene after his friends realised his Snapchat were being opened.

Tbf I'm not surprised if it's teens they seem to have very little repercussions for their actions these days. And peer pressure has to be so much harder with social media

Radio just described his phone and said they are still looking for it.

Might somebody have his login details, or might the radio not have been notified yet?
Did you read it somewhere?


EDITED.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-find-tragic-teen-cameron-12613283

Ush1

whisky_galore wrote: »

Young or old. They're still cnuts though.

Even hardened criminals and terrorists started somewhere. Most of those had mammies and daddies.

I just don't buy the 'what is it with kids these days' line.

No offense but I similarly don't buy the sure there's always been bad eggs line.

whisky_galore

Ush1 wrote: »

No offense but I similarly don't buy the sure there's always been bad eggs line.

Ah shur there was no-one doing any bad stuff back in the good old days.

Grayson

Ush1 wrote: »

No offense but I similarly don't buy the sure there's always been bad eggs line.

There have been. We are in the safest time, in one of the safest countries in the world.

utyh2ikcq9z76b

Grayson wrote: »

There have been. We are in the safest time, in one of the safest countries in the world.

Actually we have one of the higher rates of murder in Europe, and this report is before the Hutch/Kinahins war so its probably worse now

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/rate-of-homicide-among-highest-in-europe-265006.html

juno10353

Ush1 wrote:

This seems to be teenagers that when in a group will kill someone and leave the body to rot, then go to school the next day.

Ush1 wrote:

These were 18 year olds and in the Ana Kriegel case it looks like 13 year olds. This isn't organised terrorists with an agenda or from the looks of it hardened criminals involved in the drugs trade.

Lord of the Flies mentality

Ashbourne hoop

Will this thread be locked like the Ana Kriegel one ? It's an interesting thread, as was the Ana Kriegel one, on the why's and where's of the death of a teenager but its a sensitive subject particularly as it appears that other young people may be involved.

Once there's someone charged, it'll be locked and rightly so.

Ashbourne hoop

Omackeral wrote: »

Once there's someone charged, it'll be locked and rightly so.

That's fair enough I guess. Is that always the case on boards ? Not trying to be rude, genuinely curious/interested.

Grayson

Megan Great Mailman wrote: »

Actually we have one of the higher rates of murder in Europe, and this report is before the Hutch/Kinahins war so its probably worse now

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/rate-of-homicide-among-highest-in-europe-265006.html

You're comparing us to the safest countries in the world and we're only slightly higher.

Boom_Bap

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

That's fair enough I guess. Is that always the case on boards ? Not trying to be rude, genuinely curious/interested.

When anything is sub justice ( i think that's the right phrase), it cant be discussed.

utyh2ikcq9z76b

Grayson wrote: »

You're comparing us to the safest countries in the world and we're only slightly higher.

Yeah its still a relatively safe country, but I thought we would have been near the safest in Europe. Id say gang wars and drunken brawls has to account for the majority of murder

Ashbourne hoop

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

That's fair enough I guess. Is that always the case on boards ? Not trying to be rude, genuinely curious/interested.

Was the same with the Graham Dwyer/Elaine O'Hara case and is currently the situation with Ana Kriegel. It's to stop potential interference or persuasion of jurors I'd imagine. Some of the posts on these threads appear to have sources very close to the people involved only for them to be inaccurate.

ChikiChiki

Grayson wrote: »

There have been. We are in the safest time, in one of the safest countries in the world.

No offence but, I really really really detest this comment and your not the first to post it and wont be the last. Its like saying, ah sure we are grand whilst at the same time having lads with 200 + convictions running amok on our streets and reoffending without a care in the world. That is completely wrong and shouldn't be happening.

Irish people seem to settle for mediocrity when we could be far better.

Ush1

whisky_galore wrote: »

Ah shur there was no-one doing any bad stuff back in the good old days.

Yep, exactly what I said.

Ush1

Grayson wrote: »

There have been. We are in the safest time, in one of the safest countries in the world.

I know there has been, but if it was my son I'd want to have more explanation as to a motive than there's always been bad people like drug dealers and the IRA.

o1s1n

ChikiChiki wrote: »

No offence but, I really really really detest this comment and your not the first to post it and wont be the last. Its like saying, ah sure we are grand whilst at the same time having lads with 200 + convictions running amok on our streets and reoffending without a care in the world. That is completely wrong and shouldn't be happening.

Irish people seem to settle for mediocrity when we could be far better.

People tend to say that in response to ill informed 'the world is getting worse, children these days have no respect like those of my day' type comments, and they are correct.

Sure things can improve but historical we are actually living in some of the safest times ever.

Ush1

o1s1n wrote: »

People tend to say that in response to ill informed 'the world is getting worse, children these days have no respect like those of my day' type comments, and they are correct.

Sure things can improve but historical we are actually living in some of the safest times ever.

I never said either of those things.

On the whole things may well be better but there might be a bullying type subculture that needs to be looked into further, and yes, I'm only 33 but don't remember two murders like these so close together committed by young people. There was definitely scumbags probably capable of it but I find the number of possible people involved and perhaps withholding information disturbing.

Postgrad10

Suckit wrote: »

Radio just described his phone and said they are still looking for it.

Might somebody have his login details, or might the radio not have been notified yet?
Did you read it somewhere?


EDITED.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-find-tragic-teen-cameron-12613283

Confused myself. Yet rte and independent say in their news that gardai are still looking for phone. Shody journalism if they haven't updated their sites.

Tipsy McSwagger

They keep describing the phone as an iPhone 8x, there is no such iPhone.

whisky_galore

Ush1 wrote: »

Yep, exactly what I said.

Sarcasm detector turned off...

Grayson

ChikiChiki wrote: »

No offence but, I really really really detest this comment and your not the first to post it and wont be the last. Its like saying, ah sure we are grand whilst at the same time having lads with 200 + convictions running amok on our streets and reoffending without a care in the world. That is completely wrong and shouldn't be happening.

Irish people seem to settle for mediocrity when we could be far better.

If you want to think that's what I was saying work away. It wasn't though. I posted in the other thread about the leixlip murder the exact same thing. Except I did say that horrible thing will happen and that it's horrible when they do.

I should have realized that i need to put the disclaimer in every post because otherwise people will say I don't care about murders, not the victims, their families or anyone affected. I would have thought the fact that I do care was a given.

My point in saying that we are in a safe country is to point out that we are in a safe country. Murders like this a pretty fecking rare. They are horrible when they happen but they are rare and we shouldn't walk around in fear.