Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 3 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

Fred Daly

Two good hurlers gone if that's the case one of them in the running for senior club player of the year the other just back after his club exploits. Is your friend C Fogarty still there.

robwen

Is Kevin Kelly still on panel?

brookville

robwen wrote: »

Is Kevin Kelly still on panel?

Got surgery after relegation final and is hoping to be involved in the April club month.
I am suprised walsh and shefflin are dropped.shefflin got no game time and Shane five minutes against laois.He did look very light when he came on but hopefully these two continue with good club form and the county door might open again.

Fred Daly

brookville wrote: »

Got surgery after relegation final and is hoping to be involved in the April club month.
I am suprised walsh and shefflin are dropped.shefflin got no game time and Shane five minutes against laois.He did look very light when he came on but hopefully these two continue with good club form and the county door might open again.

You have to wonder about Bill Sheehan and a couple more players if Shane Walsh was to light.

Alonzo Moseley

mullinr2 wrote: »

Is it St Kierans versus St. Flannans this weekend? What are Kierans like this year? What will our minors be like this year?

Kierans v Flananns in Mallow tomorrow
If Kierans can get through they will be hard beaten as usual, especially if they get Ciaran Brennan back

But two Galway schools look very strong
Hardly surprising given they won last two AI Minors impressively

Athenry easily beat CBC today and I would fancy them to beat Colaiste Eoin (would love to be wrong as they are a terrific school with a small pick who excel in both codes)
Gavin Lee who played in the controversial u16 AI win over Kierans before Xmas torched CBC today, he is some handful

I'd be surprised if Flannans go all the way
The Harty is a hugely overrated competition and the ****e they go on with would annoy you, it would rival the hyperbole of the Leinster Schools Rugby at times
Anthony Daly at it again last Monday in Examiner inferring the Harty was the Blue Riband
"For Flannans it's the Harty, the AI a bonus, but for Kierans it's always the AI"

FFS
What team in this day and age (or in any age) could possibly value a provincial title over a national one?

I's also deeply insulting to Leinster and Connacht teams, who more often than not in recent times have been of better standard than two Harty reps.
However it is also bound to be a huge spur, Kierans in particular for decades have put away supposed "Harty Invincible" winners time and time again


I rem watching Ardscoil Limerick warm up a few years ago for final
One of their supposedly unbeatable teams
Harty Cup Champions emblazoned across the back of their tracksuits.
What must that do for opponent teams in AI series
And what coach would sign off on it?

Kierans can never be discounted but they will need to get lucky with injuries and with 3 wins in 4 weeks needed to win AI, that might be asking for too much luck

robwen

Brendan Maher wins the club hurler of the year

brookville

Fred Daly wrote: »

You have to wonder about Bill Sheehan and a couple more players if Shane Walsh was to light.

I'm not disagreeing with you because scanlon is on the squad a few years and struggled to win ball the other day.
I think we're all a little surprised these two are dropped before they start it seems

KK36

A few lads dropped from the Kilkenny panel on Thursday night.

Paul Holden
Shane Walsh
David Blanchfield
Aidan Nolan
James Maher
Evan Shefflin

Open to correction on these but this is what I heard from a good source

tbiggertycome

Village87 wrote: »

Panel was cut recently, Shane Walsh and Evan Shefflin are 2 of the lads dropped. Few Village lads did well to avoid the chop

Aidan Nolan and David Blanchfield are gone too

Grats

KK36 wrote: »

A few lads dropped from the Kilkenny panel on Thursday night.

Paul Holden
Shane Walsh
David Blanchfield
Aidan Nolan
James Maher
Evan Shefflin

Open to correction on these but this is what I heard from a good source

James Maher?

blackcard

KK36 wrote: »

A few lads dropped from the Kilkenny panel on Thursday night.

Paul Holden
Shane Walsh
David Blanchfield
Aidan Nolan
James Maher
Evan Shefflin

Open to correction on these but this is what I heard from a good source

Heard 4 of these are gone but I would be a astonished if James Maher was gone

Alonzo Moseley

Kierans beaten 14-11 in Mallow
Weird game
They were 8-1 up and Flannans down to 14 after 20 mins but looks like Flannans took over from there
Assume wind a factor but 3 points from about 45 mins play v 14 has got to hurt

Fred Daly

I dont think james maher heart was in it from what i was told, hopei am wrong but there is a life after hurling

Charlie69

blackcard wrote: »

Heard 4 of these are gone but I would be a astonished if James Maher was gone

James Maher definitely gone.

blackcard

Charlie69 wrote: »

James Maher definitely gone.

Surprised. Any idea of how many/who is left on the panel?

tbiggertycome

blackcard wrote: »

Surprised. Any idea of how many/who is left on the panel?

Surprised myself James Maher is gone, he's been incredibly unlucky with injuries but he was definitely struggling this year. Hopefully he'll be back again.

I'll try name who I think is left.
Goalkeepers
Eoin Murphy (injured?)
Darren Brennan

Backs
Ciaran Wallace
Huw Lawlor
Tommy Walsh
Conor Delaney
Padraig Walsh
Darren Mullen
Joey Houlden
Paddy Deegan
Paul Murphy
Cillian Buckley
Jason Cleere
Enda Morrissey
Tom Kenny
Richie Reid
Michael Carey
Michael Cody

Midfield
Alan Murphy
Richie Leahy
Conor Fogarty
Conor Browne

Forwards
Mossy Keoghan
Eoin Cody
Billy Ryan
Walter Walsh
Ger Aylward
Luke Scanlon
Bill Sheehan
James Bergin
TJ Reid
Colin Fennelly
Richie Hogan
John Donnelly
Liam Blanchfield (injured)
Niall Brassil (injured)
Tadhg O'Dwyer
Adrian Mullen (injured) was in the box with McGarry for the Laois game.

I'm sure I've missed a few that's 38 including Adrian Mullen. I think they carried too many players into the Championship last year and I don't think it helped they had a 40+ panel for the All Ireland. I could see another 5 being dropped before Championship. Hopefully he will settle on a core team of 12 to 13 places and there might be two or three positions up for grabs everyday. However the players have to give him no choice but to pick them.

The lads with most to worry about would be Tadgh O'Dwyer and Luke Scanlon but then again their Village men so he won't drop them.
Mossy Keoghan
Bill Sheehan
Alan Murphy
Michael Carey but DJ is there
Michael Cody
Tom Kenny
Jason Cleere
Enda Morrissey
Richie Reid

I would see all the rest as being safe but I would have said the same about James Maher so who knows.

conor05

Village87 wrote: »

Panel was cut recently, Shane Walsh and Evan Shefflin are 2 of the lads dropped. Few Village lads did well to avoid the chop

The Shefflin clan in Ballyhale won’t like that one.

Think he might have struggled against the Kerry hurler Shane Conway in the Fitzgibbon Cup match UCC v DCU so maybe that was taken into consideration.

In fairness he had a great club campaign, he didn’t get any chances in league? Seems very odd to drop him so quickly off the full panel.

therealdonster

It's a big call and a surprising one at that too especially when you look at the lack of midfield options we have and Mahers versatility. Considering how early it is in the year and how players can play themselves back into form then even more so.

I understand Kevin Kelly is still on.the panel albeit injured at present.

BloodyBill

therealdonster wrote: »

It's a big call and a surprising one at that too especially when you look at the lack of midfield options we have and Mahers versatility. Considering how early it is in the year and how players can play themselves back into form then even more so.

I understand Kevin Kelly is still on.the panel albeit injured at present.

Iv seen James Maher play 3 times and I thought he was a very good player. He has a serious engine. From a Limerick point view it's crazy that the likes of Luke Scanlon who has never put on a pound of muscle despite being around for 3 years. He ll be killed in Championship but then again he wont be playing.

Fred Daly

BloodyBill wrote: »

Iv seen James Maher play 3 times and I thought he was a very good player. He has a serious engine. From a Limerick point view it's crazy that the likes of Luke Scanlon who has never put on a pound of muscle despite being around for 3 years. He ll be killed in Championship but then again he wont be playing.

Why would you have a clue why he was dropped, late for training, not turning up for team meetings, went on the beer a couple of times when he shouldn't have . The Dublin match last year in Nowlan park he was injured but he was asked to be with the team all the other injured players were there but no sign of james. Half hearted player wont get you anywhere as ye are well aware in Limerick down through the years of these type of players.

BloodyBill

Fred Daly wrote: »

Why would you have a clue why he was dropped, late for training, not turning up for team meetings, went on the beer a couple of times when he shouldn't have . The Dublin match last year in Nowlan park he was injured but he was asked to be with the team all the other injured players were there but no sign of james. Half hearted player wont get you anywhere as ye are well aware in Limerick down throuso gh the years of these type of players.

Yeah I dont have a clue why James Maher was dropped. How would I. I'm just going on what iv seen as a fan. Your half hearted comment is more idle speculation and to bring Limerick into it is silly. I'm not well aware of half hearted players down through the years in Limerick. Limerick have a half decent team at the moment. It wont last because most of the cities best athletes play rugby but the team that's there now is good .

brookville

It is surprising maher is gone.im sure the descision wasnt taking without serious consideration especially giving our troubles and constant switching in midfield.He has the ability to chip in with a few scores.He hasn't played much this league if I remember correctly but we have given alot of players gametime..He did seem to tire abit maybe it was the injuries...We dont know the ins and outs but but he obviously worked very hard to come back from the farming injury.He was excellent in 18 for us.He had a great appetite for work.He got an excellent point against limerick which was a great day out.He came back after being dropped a few years ago it will be hard to do it again.Management have their ideas hopefully it works out.

adrian522

Looks like Kilkenny v Waterford, 2pm Nowlan Park this Sunday.

Swamp_Cat

robwen wrote: »

Brendan Maher wins the club hurler of the year

He was absolutely great but I firmly believe TJ earned both HOTY awards. If anything I'd have BM ahead of SC in the IC award but people got way too hung up on his goals. Congrats to all of the award winners and nominees all the same. Brendan was definitely very impressive, pls don't get me wrong, and this is all opinion and while trying not to be biased, I'm also as diehard a KK fan, club & county, as an American born fan can be. I just thought TJ was more influential from one end of the pitch to the other. His best year. Well done BM & quite the comeback from injury.

v3ttel

If the news about James Maher not being gone from the panel is true then that's a shame. He's a fine hurler, capable of picking off a few scores on any given day. Definitely a quality option from the bench, if not a starter. Still only 24, so hopefully he will be back.

He's a much better player than some of the lads listed above.

blackcard

adrian522 wrote: »

Looks like Kilkenny v Waterford, 2pm Nowlan Park this Sunday.

If it goes ahead

big_drive

What are the chances TJ will play next weekend?

Noddy33

big_drive wrote: »

What are the chances TJ will play next weekend?

Personally like to see TJ get a run out this week as could possibly be last run out before league champiionship starts. Not concerned with regards his conditioning or fitness but there one or two new lads integrated in to starting 15 so important have that understanding of each other for match situations.

Most likely Aylward will be unavailable for the weekend after injuring Hamstring during training at weekend but assume will wait until weekend before making the call. Fitness test done on Saturday and another training session done Sunday

brookville

Hard to know if matches will go ahead this weekend but if it does could we see the semi finals in a empty stadium?no one really knows I suppose it's just a wait and see exercise.
Not much talk about the game this weekend for obvious reasons but if it does go ahead it could be our last game for a long time.The local paper reports that colin,tj and joey are ready to come back.we have used 41 players I think it said.this should be a good test for both teams.
The team I'd like to see
Brennan
Mullen,lawlor,wallace
Delaney,deegan,buckley
Padraig,leahy
Wally,donnelly,colin
Ryan,hogan,cody

Village87

Uncertain times ahead