Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 3 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

Village87

Noddy33 wrote: »

What a load of bullsh!T and that kind of personal talk and digs at any player on a public forum really annoys me. Anyone who knows hurling will know that TJ's preparation and commitment to the sport is second to none. At the end of the day it an amateur sport with a professional training approach but players are entitled to a life outside of GAA so any other interests or 'distractions' that you refer to are completely irrelevant.

Jealous remark.

TJ is an outstanding individual and hurler, fair play to him for making money out of the GAA and his profile, TJ does the business and the field so more power to him.

In some instances i do agree that some players are not doing the business on the field and are using there profile and other players who got them that far as a marketing tool rather than getting back to basics and back to the hurlers they can be. Nearly always to late tho

sitkaspruce

TJ is an outstanding hurler who takes pride in the jersey and the mindset of a professional in an amateur game.

The training / life balance can be tough enough on our county stars without running their own business and guiding a club to an all ireland semi final. Like anyone - it can be a lot to burden but I have every confidence in TJ doing the business when required.

The distractions I mentioned are of rushing TJ back for the latter stages of the league when he should be afforded the time to ensure he is 100% ready for hopefully a long summer campaign in the black and amber.

blackcard

So Stephens, OLG, Ballyhale, Clara, Bridge and Vegas in one group. Boro, Danesfort, Ballyragget, Ballycallan, Rower and Comer in second group

kilkennyboy

blackcard wrote: »

So Stephens, OLG, Ballyhale, Clara, Bridge and Vegas in one group. Boro, Danesfort, Ballyragget, Ballycallan, Rower and Comer in second group

Christ first group.

blackcard

Glenmore, Shocks, Tullogher, Tullaroan, Fenians and Freshford in intermediate group. Gowran Martin's, Lisdowney, Callan, Dunnamaggan and Thomastown in second group

Realt Dearg Sec

blackcard wrote: »

So Stephens, OLG, Ballyhale, Clara, Bridge and Vegas in one group. Boro, Danesfort, Ballyragget, Ballycallan, Rower and Comer in second group

Group two teams will all be pretty happy with that draw you'd have to say. As a boro fan I know I am. Group one will be great craic for neutrals.

dubcat51

greenspurs wrote: »

A good win for our Senior camogie team yesterday Vs Clare in Callan.
Very cold day, with a long grass made for a poor enough game, but also considering those two factors and the fact that it was the first game of the League, 1-09 to 0-07 , its a case of "job done'

did camogie play with a swerper?who stood out.

greenspurs

dubcat51 wrote: »

did camogie play with a swerper?who stood out.

They were 15 on 15. Played very deep though in the second half as Clare got on top , and were using the wind . Katie Power was very isolated when she came on, as the other 2 forwards dropped deep to cover the half forwards, who were also dropping back.

Davinia Tobin was outstanding - covered every inch of the pitch, great interceptions and delivered great ball into the half forward line.
Denise Gaule drove on the team, she really is the heartbeat of the team on the pitch. Tireless!
Danielle Morrissey was very lively, and gave the Clare defence a tough time - Scored 3 (?) points I think.

For Clare , Eimear Kelly really stood out, fine hurler.!

Next fixture - Sat 26th Vs Dublin in Callan @2.00

dubcat51

greenspurs wrote: »

They were 15 on 15. Played very deep though in the second half as Clare got on top , and were using the wind . Katie Power was very isolated when she came on, as the other 2 forwards dropped deep to cover the half forwards, who were also dropping back.

Davinia Tobin was outstanding - covered every inch of the pitch, great interceptions and delivered great ball into the half forward line.
Denise Gaule drove on the team, she really is the heartbeat of the team on the pitch. Tireless!
Danielle Morrissey was very lively, and gave the Clare defence a tough time - Scored 3 (?) points I think.

For Clare , Eimear Kelly really stood out, fine hurler.!

Next fixture - Sat 26th Vs Dublin in Callan @2.00

saw anne dalton named at 15 cant belueve she played there.good to see mortissey score 3 from play just out of minor.is shelley farrell injured?

greenspurs

dubcat51 wrote: »

saw anne dalton named at 15 cant belueve she played there.good to see mortissey score 3 from play just out of minor.is shelley farrell injured?

Anne Dalton played in the half forwards, played ok.

Shelley is gone to Australia.

Village87

kilkennyboy wrote: »

Christ first group.

Dicksboro will be happy with the draw. Our group is a nightmare.

Intermediate has Tullaroan, Carrickshock, Tullogher, Freshford and Glenmore in one group. 5 of the strongest intermediate teams imo

robwen

Village87 wrote: »

Dicksboro will be happy with the draw. Our group is a nightmare.

Intermediate has Tullaroan, Carrickshock, Tullogher, Freshford and Glenmore in one group. 5 of the strongest intermediate teams imo

Heard John Dalton was retiring for the Shocks not a lot of optimism talking to people from there, say they have no young lads coming through, be very interesting to see how Tullaroan react this year, they have been the hot favs to win intermediate for a few years & failed & the bitterest of pills to swallow last year

Village87

robwen wrote: »

Heard John Dalton was retiring for the Shocks not a lot of optimism talking to people from there, say they have no young lads coming through, be very interesting to see how Tullaroan react this year, they have been the hot favs to win intermediate for a few years & failed & the bitterest of pills to swallow last year

Was John Dalton not training the team after the manager was forced out early last year? Carrickshck will still have a strong spine and be hard to beat

dubcat51

greenspurs wrote: »

Anne Dalton played in the half forwards, played ok.

Shelley is gone to Australia.

is shelley gone for rhe year

robwen

Village87 wrote: »

Was John Dalton not training the team after the manager was forced out early last year? Carrickshck will still have a strong spine and be hard to beat

I don't think so, he was the main man in the ousting of the guy I believe, they got a lad in from tipp to train them after. Brian Greene former Waterford hurler training them this yr

greenspurs

dubcat51 wrote: »

is shelley gone for rhe year

I'm not sure, but I would think so.

tbiggertycome

These were our Fitzgibbon players the weekend gone.

UCD
Huw Lawlor FB
Robert Lennon CB
Sean Carey LCF
Subs
James Bergin
Bill Cuddihy
UCD 3-12 NUIG 1-18

IT Carlow
Jason Cleere RWB
Richie Leahy MF
Kevin Murphy RCF (Rower)
Subs
Padraig Mullen (Danesfort)
Damien Aylward (Mullinavat)
IT Carlow 1-13 Lim IT 1-14

DCU
Conor Delaney CB
John Donnelly RCF
James Bergin FF (Conahy)
Sean Morrissey LCF
Sub
Edmond Delaney (Conahy)
Billy Ryan (GBC)

WIT
Owen McGrath FB (John Lockes)
Tommy Walsh RWB
Shane Ryan CB (Rower)
Ollie Walsh RWF
Shane Murphy CF
Conor Hennessey FF(Tullogher)
Subs
Stephen Haberlin (Kilmacow)
Darragh Walsh (Piltown)
Robbie Buckley (OLG)
John Campion (St Lachtains)
Anthony McNamara (Kilmacow)

DCU 0-16 WIT 0-14

UL
Evan Cody FB
Michael Carey RWB
Alan Murphy RCF
Subs
Brian Coady
Martin Keoghan

UCC
Conor Browne MF

UL 0-20 UCC 0-26

DIT
Niall Walsh RWF (Windgap)
Liam Blanchfield CF
David Herity Manager
JJ Delaney selector

Mary I
Sub
Stephen Farrell

Trinty beat Garda can't find a team for either.

Theres a lot of lads who will be expected to play the league for Kilkenny in those teams it'll be an interesting few weeks ahead.

Joe Daly

Professional players wouldn't be asked give as much to there code rugby, soccer,

JJs Left Hand

Who is James Bergin for UCD? Clara? Thought it was the Conahy one but I see he's in DCU

sitkaspruce

Joe Daly wrote: »

Professional players wouldn't be asked give as much to there code rugby, soccer,

Rugby players are protected and only play x amount of provincial games to maximise their game time for the national team.

Training / work / life balance is becoming increasingly difficult to manage and that's before factoring in those who are lucky enough to have sponsorship agreements and brand ambassador commitments too.

brookville

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

Who is James Bergin for UCD? Clara? Thought it was the Conahy one but I see he's in DCU

its the only one i can think of?are darren and adrian mullen in college or both excused because of club commitments?

sitkaspruce

brookville wrote: »

its the only one i can think of?are darren and adrian mullen in college or both excused because of club commitments?

Surely they are focusing on the second weekend in February and nothing else.

brookville

what are our thoughts for sunday?should be a decent crowd despite the increase in prices.Just looking at the fitzgibbon fixtures cody wasnt wrong when highlighting this a few weeks ago.While its great to be represtented at this grade its very hard for county teams to prepare for a league or maybe dj is right when he said they should be excluded till after the fitzgibbon although some counties will rely on these lads.I know we in kk would like to have lawlor and delaney getting game time.
we probably dont know where we are on the injury situation regarding padraig,wally,maher,aylward but hopefully we'll give a good account of ourselves sunday and we get a good return out of our fowards.

Village87

brookville wrote: »

what are our thoughts for sunday?should be a decent crowd despite the increase in prices.Just looking at the fitzgibbon fixtures cody wasnt wrong when highlighting this a few weeks ago.While its great to be represtented at this grade its very hard for county teams to prepare for a league or maybe dj is right when he said they should be excluded till after the fitzgibbon although some counties will rely on these lads.I know we in kk would like to have lawlor and delaney getting game time.
we probably dont know where we are on the injury situation regarding padraig,wally,maher,aylward but hopefully we'll give a good account of ourselves sunday and we get a good return out of our fowards.

Look it’s the same for every county. That’s why KK have the 50 on the panel. No player should be asked to do much with a panel that size. Brian Cody has said numerous times he believes in the panel. We will know where we stand after this league panel wise.
Looking forward to Sunday, Cork have similar if not more players in the Fitzgibbon than Kk so it will be interesting to see line ups.

Joe Daly

sitkaspruce wrote: »

Rugby players are protected and only play x amount of provincial games to maximise their game time for the national team.

Training / work / life balance is becoming increasingly difficult to manage and that's before factoring in those who are lucky enough to have sponsorship agreements and brand ambassador commitments too.

Player welfare

sitkaspruce

Joe Daly wrote: »

Player welfare

Thanks Joe.

tbiggertycome

From what I've heard this is who's on the panel, I'm missing at least 9 if there's 50 in there

Eoin Murphy
Darren Brennan

Paul Murphy
Huw Lawlor Fitzgibbon
Conor Delaney Fitzgibbon
Tommy Walsh Fitzgibbon
Paddy Deegan
Joey Holden club
Cillian Buckley injured indefinite
Conor O'Shea
Robert Lennon Fitzgibbon
Jason Cleere Fitzgibbon
Padraig Walsh injured 2-3 weeks
Tom Kenny
Conor Browne Fitzgibbon
Aidan Nolan
Michael Carey Fitzgibbon
Michael Cody club
Robbie Fitzpatrick
Tom Aylward coming back from injury
Darren Mullen club
Evan Shefflin club

James Maher
Conor Fogarty
Richie Leahy Fitzgibbon
Richie Reid club

Tj Reid club
Richie Hogan
Walter Walsh
Martin Keoghan Fitzgibbon
Liam Blanchfield Fitzgibbon
Billy Ryan Fitzgibbon
Kevin Kelly
Colin Fennelly club
Ger Aylward Injured finger
John Donnelly Fitzgibbon
Adrian Mullen club
Bill Sheehan injured 3 months
Pat Lyng
Shane Murphy Fitzgibbon
Niall Brassill


So lads we have to pick from this weekend are:

Eoin Murphy
Darren Brennan

Paul Murphy
Huw Lawlor Fitzgibbon
Conor Delaney Fitzgibbon
Tommy Walsh Fitzgibbon
Paddy Deegan
Conor O'Shea
Robert Lennon Fitzgibbon
Jason Cleere Fitzgibbon
Tom Kenny
Conor Browne
Aidan Nolan
Michael Carey Fitzgibbon
Robbie Fitzpatrick

James Maher
Conor Fogarty
Richie Leahy Fitzgibbon

Richie Hogan
Walter Walsh
Martin Keoghan Fitzgibbon
Liam Blanchfield Fitzgibbon
Billy Ryan Fitzgibbon
Kevin Kelly
Ger Aylward Injured finger should play hopefully
John Donnelly Fitzgibbon
Pat Lyng
Shane Murphy Fitzgibbon
Niall Brassill


I can't see Cody not picking lads who have played Fitzgibbon but will obviously only try and pick a few If I was picking a team v Cork I would pick this

Eoin Murphy

Paul Murphy
Conor Delaney
Tommy Walsh

Conor O'Shea
Paddy Deegan
Conor Browne

James Maher
Conor Fogarty

Mossy Keoghan
Richie Hogan
Kevin Kelly
Billy Ryan
Walter Walsh
Ger Aylward

greenspurs

tbiggertycome wrote: »

I can't see Cody not picking lads who have played Fitzgibbon but will obviously only try and pick a few If I was picking a team v Cork I would pick this

Eoin Murphy

Paul Murphy
Conor Delaney
Tommy Walsh

Conor O'Shea
Paddy Deegan
Conor Browne

James Maher
Conor Fogarty

Mossy Keoghan
Richie Hogan
Kevin Kelly
Billy Ryan
Walter Walsh
Ger Aylward

I would put Huw Lawlor in at Full back... just to give him a taste., leave him have a run of games at the position.
I don't know/doubt it if Cody will use him for the Championship though ?

JJs Left Hand

I normally like your posts TBTC but that half back line is cat and would get murdered by Cork

Delaney will definitely be on the half back line

tbiggertycome

greenspurs wrote: »

I would put Huw Lawlor in at Full back... just to give him a taste., leave him have a run of games at the position.
I don't know/doubt it if Cody will use him for the Championship though ?

Personally I've yet to be impressed by Huw Lawlor at Full back and for me Conor Delaney is our answer to that problem so lets stop messing around and get him in there from the start let him settle.